GM steering column?
#21
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Re: GM steering column?
> It is GM similar to this:
> http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doity...lt_wheel02.htm Maybe,
> you could still pull the bolt the held the old lock and replace it as
> Jeff suggests, on the seventh page:
The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
-Bill
> http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doity...lt_wheel02.htm Maybe,
> you could still pull the bolt the held the old lock and replace it as
> Jeff suggests, on the seventh page:
The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
-Bill
#22
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Re: GM steering column?
He shouldn't even need the entire column, just the plastic parts above the
dash and the metal tube that extends through the firewall. It all
disassembles from the top end and, if I recall correctly, there's just a
couple of machine screws down there below the signal switch holding it
together.
wkearney: I'll bet a black steering column wouldn't look bad in a maroon
interior and Krylon's "Fusion" paint for plastic works well on plastic
steering column parts. If you can live with a black column you can grab
the next one you see that has the features you want.
Oh, and consider replacing the signal light switch while you've got it
apart. You'll hate yourself if you have to take it apart again in 6
months.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> It is a basic Saganaw unit that is used in Camaros, Chevettes, Full
> sized GM and Chevy vans, Vettes and about any other full sized beast.
>
> The wrecker should even have the right color.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
>> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
>> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
>> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
>> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
>> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>>
>> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
>> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
>> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>>
>> I'm near Washington DC.
>>
>> -Bill Kearney
>
#23
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Re: GM steering column?
He shouldn't even need the entire column, just the plastic parts above the
dash and the metal tube that extends through the firewall. It all
disassembles from the top end and, if I recall correctly, there's just a
couple of machine screws down there below the signal switch holding it
together.
wkearney: I'll bet a black steering column wouldn't look bad in a maroon
interior and Krylon's "Fusion" paint for plastic works well on plastic
steering column parts. If you can live with a black column you can grab
the next one you see that has the features you want.
Oh, and consider replacing the signal light switch while you've got it
apart. You'll hate yourself if you have to take it apart again in 6
months.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> It is a basic Saganaw unit that is used in Camaros, Chevettes, Full
> sized GM and Chevy vans, Vettes and about any other full sized beast.
>
> The wrecker should even have the right color.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
>> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
>> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
>> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
>> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
>> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>>
>> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
>> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
>> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>>
>> I'm near Washington DC.
>>
>> -Bill Kearney
>
#24
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Re: GM steering column?
He shouldn't even need the entire column, just the plastic parts above the
dash and the metal tube that extends through the firewall. It all
disassembles from the top end and, if I recall correctly, there's just a
couple of machine screws down there below the signal switch holding it
together.
wkearney: I'll bet a black steering column wouldn't look bad in a maroon
interior and Krylon's "Fusion" paint for plastic works well on plastic
steering column parts. If you can live with a black column you can grab
the next one you see that has the features you want.
Oh, and consider replacing the signal light switch while you've got it
apart. You'll hate yourself if you have to take it apart again in 6
months.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> It is a basic Saganaw unit that is used in Camaros, Chevettes, Full
> sized GM and Chevy vans, Vettes and about any other full sized beast.
>
> The wrecker should even have the right color.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
>> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
>> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
>> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
>> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
>> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>>
>> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
>> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
>> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>>
>> I'm near Washington DC.
>>
>> -Bill Kearney
>
#25
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Re: GM steering column?
He shouldn't even need the entire column, just the plastic parts above the
dash and the metal tube that extends through the firewall. It all
disassembles from the top end and, if I recall correctly, there's just a
couple of machine screws down there below the signal switch holding it
together.
wkearney: I'll bet a black steering column wouldn't look bad in a maroon
interior and Krylon's "Fusion" paint for plastic works well on plastic
steering column parts. If you can live with a black column you can grab
the next one you see that has the features you want.
Oh, and consider replacing the signal light switch while you've got it
apart. You'll hate yourself if you have to take it apart again in 6
months.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Mike Romain wrote:
> It is a basic Saganaw unit that is used in Camaros, Chevettes, Full
> sized GM and Chevy vans, Vettes and about any other full sized beast.
>
> The wrecker should even have the right color.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>>
>> I've an 86 Cherokee with a broken steering column due to a thief destroying the
>> ignition to steal it. I've lived with the inconvenience for ages but it's about
>> time I got around to replacing it. I've had little or no luck finding a
>> replacement unit as a Jeep component. It appears, however, from the keys and
>> the assembly itself to be a GM sourced part. Anyone got any ideas on what
>> make/model GM vehicle could be used as a replacement source?
>>
>> The real trouble is this was the mini-Wagoneer model so the column has tilt and
>> cruise control on it. That and it's maroon colored. At this point I don't care
>> about color but I would like to preserve the cruise/tilt setup.
>>
>> I'm near Washington DC.
>>
>> -Bill Kearney
>
#26
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Re: GM steering column?
Geez, I've only seen that once. I thought it was common knowledge a
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
#27
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Re: GM steering column?
Geez, I've only seen that once. I thought it was common knowledge a
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
#28
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Re: GM steering column?
Geez, I've only seen that once. I thought it was common knowledge a
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
#29
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Re: GM steering column?
Geez, I've only seen that once. I thought it was common knowledge a
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
wkearney99 wrote:
>
> The damage is not to the key side of the column, they broke out the entire left
> side of the column housing. Completely destroying the wiper stalk. The key
> still turns but there's nothing left to engage the sliding actuator. Thus this
> is a matter of replacing the assembly between the wheel and the tilt mechanism.
> It seems, however, it'd be simpler to just replace the whole column.
>
> -Bill
#30
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Re: GM steering column?
> Geez, I've only seen that once. I thought it was common knowledge a
> slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
> like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
I agree but apparently it's "easier" to carry something that can smash the side
of the column instead of a slide-puller. Besides, when the cops stop someone
it's more likely they'll get charged with something when carrying an obvious
burglary tool. Say what you will about that whole issue but someone caught
lurking around in the middle of the night while carrying a slide hammer or bolt
cutters is probably not up to any good.
Sadly, many ignitions don't even require pulling the cylinder. Just jam a
heavyweight slotted screwdriver in they key slot; one with a squared shaft, and
then just force the whole thing to turn with a pair of vise-grips.
I was just appalled they stole my beat-to-crap XJ. Only to find it was on a
bone-dry tank and have to abandon it a mere two miles up the road. The cop's
response was "looks don't matter, they were just too lazy to walk". The
funniest part was getting a call two weeks later from a patrol car that "found"
my XJ. This was after it had /already/ been recovered the first time. I asked
him were it was (out in front of my workplace), told him it had already been
found once and then I ran like hell out there to make sure they didn't tow it
AGAIN.
I'm glad they were on the ball enough to be looking for it but would've thought
they'd have stopped trying after the first time...
-Bill Kearney
> slide hammer type dent puller, pops the key assembly right out. Kind of
> like having your rag top cut open when the doors were unlocked.
I agree but apparently it's "easier" to carry something that can smash the side
of the column instead of a slide-puller. Besides, when the cops stop someone
it's more likely they'll get charged with something when carrying an obvious
burglary tool. Say what you will about that whole issue but someone caught
lurking around in the middle of the night while carrying a slide hammer or bolt
cutters is probably not up to any good.
Sadly, many ignitions don't even require pulling the cylinder. Just jam a
heavyweight slotted screwdriver in they key slot; one with a squared shaft, and
then just force the whole thing to turn with a pair of vise-grips.
I was just appalled they stole my beat-to-crap XJ. Only to find it was on a
bone-dry tank and have to abandon it a mere two miles up the road. The cop's
response was "looks don't matter, they were just too lazy to walk". The
funniest part was getting a call two weeks later from a patrol car that "found"
my XJ. This was after it had /already/ been recovered the first time. I asked
him were it was (out in front of my workplace), told him it had already been
found once and then I ran like hell out there to make sure they didn't tow it
AGAIN.
I'm glad they were on the ball enough to be looking for it but would've thought
they'd have stopped trying after the first time...
-Bill Kearney