That's the only reason they give (?) us warranties, it's to limit
their liability.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That isn't a hard story to believe. All parts have a percentage of
> failures, you just hope they are on someone else's' vehicle... ;-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

That's the only reason they give (?) us warranties, it's to limit
their liability.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That isn't a hard story to believe. All parts have a percentage of
> failures, you just hope they are on someone else's' vehicle... ;-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

"John R" <john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:77ac046e.0411142031.650100ee@posting.google.c om...
> Y'know, I think you all may be looking in the wrong place...(he said,
> ducking)
>
> Here's another angle:
>
> My neighbor has a 2000 GC that she bought new in '99. (yes, I
> understand this thread is about a Libby)
>
> Anyway, it wasn't long before she started getting a whining and
> grinding noise in the front end. She took it back to the stealership
> no less than 5 times in the course of 3 months. She told them it only
> happens when she makes a few turns on her way home from work and when
> she turns in to her driveway. Well, the mechanic(s) road tested it
> and couldn't recreate the sound. I think they wrote her of as "the
> crazy chick"... Long story short- she finally got the Service Manager
> to ride all the way home with her and he did, in fact hear the noise.
> 3 more trips to the stealership and they couldn't fix the problem.
> She ended up going thru the "lemon law" process and it was in
> mediation<sp> when (literally) at the last minute, they said they had
> new information regarding "HARMONIC BALANCE" in the fluid exchange in
> the power steering pump!!(hoo-boy).... Well, no sh*t, they replaced
> the power steering pump about 2 weeks later, (they apparently had to
> wait for the "right one") and the problem mysteriously went away and
> hasn't returned. I still don't believe that this was the problem, but
> I swear this is a true story.
>

Actually, that is another good place to look. I dialed in on the tcase and
viscouls coupling because if the tcase linkage is the fault, it is fixed for
free by making a simple adjustment, and the search of the area would expose
the coupling if that was the real problem.

The steering pump actually makes a lot of sense because it would cause a
"wobble" that could be felt in the steering wheel, and it would make a
whining noise. Any problem with the steering pump should be exacerbated by
turning the steering wheel from lock to lock while stationary. This is yet
another easy test the OP can perform, and demonstrate to service.

 

"John R" <john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:77ac046e.0411142031.650100ee@posting.google.c om...
> Y'know, I think you all may be looking in the wrong place...(he said,
> ducking)
>
> Here's another angle:
>
> My neighbor has a 2000 GC that she bought new in '99. (yes, I
> understand this thread is about a Libby)
>
> Anyway, it wasn't long before she started getting a whining and
> grinding noise in the front end. She took it back to the stealership
> no less than 5 times in the course of 3 months. She told them it only
> happens when she makes a few turns on her way home from work and when
> she turns in to her driveway. Well, the mechanic(s) road tested it
> and couldn't recreate the sound. I think they wrote her of as "the
> crazy chick"... Long story short- she finally got the Service Manager
> to ride all the way home with her and he did, in fact hear the noise.
> 3 more trips to the stealership and they couldn't fix the problem.
> She ended up going thru the "lemon law" process and it was in
> mediation<sp> when (literally) at the last minute, they said they had
> new information regarding "HARMONIC BALANCE" in the fluid exchange in
> the power steering pump!!(hoo-boy).... Well, no sh*t, they replaced
> the power steering pump about 2 weeks later, (they apparently had to
> wait for the "right one") and the problem mysteriously went away and
> hasn't returned. I still don't believe that this was the problem, but
> I swear this is a true story.
>

Actually, that is another good place to look. I dialed in on the tcase and
viscouls coupling because if the tcase linkage is the fault, it is fixed for
free by making a simple adjustment, and the search of the area would expose
the coupling if that was the real problem.

The steering pump actually makes a lot of sense because it would cause a
"wobble" that could be felt in the steering wheel, and it would make a
whining noise. Any problem with the steering pump should be exacerbated by
turning the steering wheel from lock to lock while stationary. This is yet
another easy test the OP can perform, and demonstrate to service.

 

"John R" <john_r357@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:77ac046e.0411142031.650100ee@posting.google.c om...
> Y'know, I think you all may be looking in the wrong place...(he said,
> ducking)
>
> Here's another angle:
>
> My neighbor has a 2000 GC that she bought new in '99. (yes, I
> understand this thread is about a Libby)
>
> Anyway, it wasn't long before she started getting a whining and
> grinding noise in the front end. She took it back to the stealership
> no less than 5 times in the course of 3 months. She told them it only
> happens when she makes a few turns on her way home from work and when
> she turns in to her driveway. Well, the mechanic(s) road tested it
> and couldn't recreate the sound. I think they wrote her of as "the
> crazy chick"... Long story short- she finally got the Service Manager
> to ride all the way home with her and he did, in fact hear the noise.
> 3 more trips to the stealership and they couldn't fix the problem.
> She ended up going thru the "lemon law" process and it was in
> mediation<sp> when (literally) at the last minute, they said they had
> new information regarding "HARMONIC BALANCE" in the fluid exchange in
> the power steering pump!!(hoo-boy).... Well, no sh*t, they replaced
> the power steering pump about 2 weeks later, (they apparently had to
> wait for the "right one") and the problem mysteriously went away and
> hasn't returned. I still don't believe that this was the problem, but
> I swear this is a true story.
>

Actually, that is another good place to look. I dialed in on the tcase and
viscouls coupling because if the tcase linkage is the fault, it is fixed for
free by making a simple adjustment, and the search of the area would expose
the coupling if that was the real problem.

The steering pump actually makes a lot of sense because it would cause a
"wobble" that could be felt in the steering wheel, and it would make a
whining noise. Any problem with the steering pump should be exacerbated by
turning the steering wheel from lock to lock while stationary. This is yet
another easy test the OP can perform, and demonstrate to service.

 

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message >

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
> remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to
side -
> or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

This is a Liberty. It has Command trac and Selec trac options.
Neither of these has a Viscous Coupling. The VC is used in the
QuadraTrac on the Grand Cherokee.

-Noah Tal

 

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message >

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
> remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to
side -
> or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

This is a Liberty. It has Command trac and Selec trac options.
Neither of these has a Viscous Coupling. The VC is used in the
QuadraTrac on the Grand Cherokee.

-Noah Tal

 

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message >

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
> remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to
side -
> or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

This is a Liberty. It has Command trac and Selec trac options.
Neither of these has a Viscous Coupling. The VC is used in the
QuadraTrac on the Grand Cherokee.

-Noah Tal

 

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message >

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
> remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to
side -
> or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

This is a Liberty. It has Command trac and Selec trac options.
Neither of these has a Viscous Coupling. The VC is used in the
QuadraTrac on the Grand Cherokee.

-Noah Tal

 

"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message >

OK. Full Time 4WD uses a viscous coupling to handle the differential duties,
> remember the differential handles the speed differences from side to
side -
> or in the case of the tcase, front to rear.

This is a Liberty. It has Command trac and Selec trac options.
Neither of these has a Viscous Coupling. The VC is used in the
QuadraTrac on the Grand Cherokee.

-Noah Tal