A girlie Liberty question....................
#44
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
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> .............but as I'm a girl it's allowed.
>
> My 6 month old Liberty has develeoped an intermittent noise when turning
> right (and very very occaisionally left). I can only describe it as a
> cross
> between a grinding noise and a whine. I can feel a very slight vibration
> through the steering wheel as well. Sometimes it happens a lot, then I
> can
> go for days with nothing, I can't even figure out what brings it on.
> Every
> time I have take in to the dealership it doesn't happen (of course!!!)
> even
> if it has been doing it a lot that day. They say until they can hear it
> they wont be able to tell what it is. Does anybody have any clues? Is
> this
> a common Liberty problem??
>
> Angela
>
>
Go to www.jeep.com .. click on the 'For Owners' tab, then select 'recall
notices'.. if you type the vin # into here, it will tell you if there is a
recall on your Jeep..
#45
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
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> .............but as I'm a girl it's allowed.
>
> My 6 month old Liberty has develeoped an intermittent noise when turning
> right (and very very occaisionally left). I can only describe it as a
> cross
> between a grinding noise and a whine. I can feel a very slight vibration
> through the steering wheel as well. Sometimes it happens a lot, then I
> can
> go for days with nothing, I can't even figure out what brings it on.
> Every
> time I have take in to the dealership it doesn't happen (of course!!!)
> even
> if it has been doing it a lot that day. They say until they can hear it
> they wont be able to tell what it is. Does anybody have any clues? Is
> this
> a common Liberty problem??
>
> Angela
>
>
Go to www.jeep.com .. click on the 'For Owners' tab, then select 'recall
notices'.. if you type the vin # into here, it will tell you if there is a
recall on your Jeep..
#46
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmqui0$iom$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> .............but as I'm a girl it's allowed.
>
> My 6 month old Liberty has develeoped an intermittent noise when turning
> right (and very very occaisionally left). I can only describe it as a
> cross
> between a grinding noise and a whine. I can feel a very slight vibration
> through the steering wheel as well. Sometimes it happens a lot, then I
> can
> go for days with nothing, I can't even figure out what brings it on.
> Every
> time I have take in to the dealership it doesn't happen (of course!!!)
> even
> if it has been doing it a lot that day. They say until they can hear it
> they wont be able to tell what it is. Does anybody have any clues? Is
> this
> a common Liberty problem??
>
> Angela
>
>
Go to www.jeep.com .. click on the 'For Owners' tab, then select 'recall
notices'.. if you type the vin # into here, it will tell you if there is a
recall on your Jeep..
#47
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
>
> Go to www.jeep.com .. click on the 'For Owners' tab, then select 'recall
> notices'.. if you type the vin # into here, it will tell you if there is a
> recall on your Jeep..
thanks I did that but nothing came up. Bill mentioned the recall issue but
that was for 2002/03 Liberty's. Mine was made this year
#48
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
>
> Go to www.jeep.com .. click on the 'For Owners' tab, then select 'recall
> notices'.. if you type the vin # into here, it will tell you if there is a
> recall on your Jeep..
thanks I did that but nothing came up. Bill mentioned the recall issue but
that was for 2002/03 Liberty's. Mine was made this year
#49
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
>
> Go to www.jeep.com .. click on the 'For Owners' tab, then select 'recall
> notices'.. if you type the vin # into here, it will tell you if there is a
> recall on your Jeep..
thanks I did that but nothing came up. Bill mentioned the recall issue but
that was for 2002/03 Liberty's. Mine was made this year
#50
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Re: A girlie Liberty question....................
Angie,
I have been following your posts both here and on alt.jeep-1.
Given what you have said about only having 5000 miles on a brand new Libby,
I would discount ujoints, ball joints, and any other kind of joints for now.
The Tcase - you said SeleTrac - is the Part Time unit. The linkage can be
mis adjusted, letting you think you are in 2HI, but actually have a partial
selection of 4HI. If you tend to use 4HI for a bit, then go back to 2HI and
notice the problem, my guess is the linkage is telling you that you are in
2HI, but the gears are on the hairy edge of 4HI, and then you will feel the
steering wheel wobble in a turn, and you will hear whines of complaint from
the tcase. The Good News here is that adjusting the linkage is very easy,
you can probably do it yourself without breaking a nail. I wouldn't test
fate that way though, just get the dealer to make the adjustment for you.
The test that you can do to verify the hypothisis is to fiddle with the 4WD
lever while you are driving. Select 4HI, then go back to 2HI, but only move
the lever far enough to to show that 4HI is disengaged. Feel for any
detents, and see if the detents actually line up with the marks on the
shifter and the actuation of the 4HI light. Basically, I think somebody is
driving your Libby and testing 4WD, but now getting the shifter fully into
2WD when they are done. The result is that you may experience intermittant
complaints from the tcase, and a wobble in the steering wheel.
The complaints and the wobble are related, in fact they are variations of
the same thing. When you are driving along and minding your own business,
the differential(s) allow the tires on each side of your Libby to turn at
different speeds - this happens when you go around a corner, the inside tire
has a shorter distance to travel than the outside tire, so the tires must
turn at different speeds. The Transfer Case - the part that selects 4WD - is
not able to allow the front and rear tires to go different speeds, as when
you go around a corner. The result is the tcase binds, and the bind is
transmitted through the drive train and into the steering wheel, this causes
the wobble you experienced. The stress on the drive train is released in
spurts as the tires slip on the ground - this is the wobble. The whining is
the tcase complaining about the tires going at different speeds, and is a
precursor to serious damage - the tcase is chain driven, and the damage is
that the chain will eventually stretch and break, or strip cogs off of the
sprockets. The fact that the tcase can not tolerate these different speeds
is the entire reason why you should never use 4WD except on solid snow and
ice, or on dirt. If you can see the street, you should not be in 4WD, even
if it is raining.
"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmqui0$iom$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> .............but as I'm a girl it's allowed.
>
> My 6 month old Liberty has develeoped an intermittent noise when turning
> right (and very very occaisionally left). I can only describe it as a
cross
> between a grinding noise and a whine. I can feel a very slight vibration
> through the steering wheel as well. Sometimes it happens a lot, then I
can
> go for days with nothing, I can't even figure out what brings it on.
Every
> time I have take in to the dealership it doesn't happen (of course!!!)
even
> if it has been doing it a lot that day. They say until they can hear it
> they wont be able to tell what it is. Does anybody have any clues? Is
this
> a common Liberty problem??
>
> Angela
>
>
I have been following your posts both here and on alt.jeep-1.
Given what you have said about only having 5000 miles on a brand new Libby,
I would discount ujoints, ball joints, and any other kind of joints for now.
The Tcase - you said SeleTrac - is the Part Time unit. The linkage can be
mis adjusted, letting you think you are in 2HI, but actually have a partial
selection of 4HI. If you tend to use 4HI for a bit, then go back to 2HI and
notice the problem, my guess is the linkage is telling you that you are in
2HI, but the gears are on the hairy edge of 4HI, and then you will feel the
steering wheel wobble in a turn, and you will hear whines of complaint from
the tcase. The Good News here is that adjusting the linkage is very easy,
you can probably do it yourself without breaking a nail. I wouldn't test
fate that way though, just get the dealer to make the adjustment for you.
The test that you can do to verify the hypothisis is to fiddle with the 4WD
lever while you are driving. Select 4HI, then go back to 2HI, but only move
the lever far enough to to show that 4HI is disengaged. Feel for any
detents, and see if the detents actually line up with the marks on the
shifter and the actuation of the 4HI light. Basically, I think somebody is
driving your Libby and testing 4WD, but now getting the shifter fully into
2WD when they are done. The result is that you may experience intermittant
complaints from the tcase, and a wobble in the steering wheel.
The complaints and the wobble are related, in fact they are variations of
the same thing. When you are driving along and minding your own business,
the differential(s) allow the tires on each side of your Libby to turn at
different speeds - this happens when you go around a corner, the inside tire
has a shorter distance to travel than the outside tire, so the tires must
turn at different speeds. The Transfer Case - the part that selects 4WD - is
not able to allow the front and rear tires to go different speeds, as when
you go around a corner. The result is the tcase binds, and the bind is
transmitted through the drive train and into the steering wheel, this causes
the wobble you experienced. The stress on the drive train is released in
spurts as the tires slip on the ground - this is the wobble. The whining is
the tcase complaining about the tires going at different speeds, and is a
precursor to serious damage - the tcase is chain driven, and the damage is
that the chain will eventually stretch and break, or strip cogs off of the
sprockets. The fact that the tcase can not tolerate these different speeds
is the entire reason why you should never use 4WD except on solid snow and
ice, or on dirt. If you can see the street, you should not be in 4WD, even
if it is raining.
"Angela" <anyoldmail@gmail.takethisout.com> wrote in message
news:cmqui0$iom$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> .............but as I'm a girl it's allowed.
>
> My 6 month old Liberty has develeoped an intermittent noise when turning
> right (and very very occaisionally left). I can only describe it as a
cross
> between a grinding noise and a whine. I can feel a very slight vibration
> through the steering wheel as well. Sometimes it happens a lot, then I
can
> go for days with nothing, I can't even figure out what brings it on.
Every
> time I have take in to the dealership it doesn't happen (of course!!!)
even
> if it has been doing it a lot that day. They say until they can hear it
> they wont be able to tell what it is. Does anybody have any clues? Is
this
> a common Liberty problem??
>
> Angela
>
>