Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
#11
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I would dearly love to fly over to Poland and install a gas
regulator on your throttle body free of charge! If you had lived here in
America during the propane conversions of the seventies, you wouldn't
sound so.... stupid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
regulator on your throttle body free of charge! If you had lived here in
America during the propane conversions of the seventies, you wouldn't
sound so.... stupid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
#12
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I would dearly love to fly over to Poland and install a gas
regulator on your throttle body free of charge! If you had lived here in
America during the propane conversions of the seventies, you wouldn't
sound so.... stupid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
regulator on your throttle body free of charge! If you had lived here in
America during the propane conversions of the seventies, you wouldn't
sound so.... stupid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
#13
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
I would dearly love to fly over to Poland and install a gas
regulator on your throttle body free of charge! If you had lived here in
America during the propane conversions of the seventies, you wouldn't
sound so.... stupid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
regulator on your throttle body free of charge! If you had lived here in
America during the propane conversions of the seventies, you wouldn't
sound so.... stupid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
"Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> > driver
>
>
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
"Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> > driver
>
>
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
#15
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
"Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> > driver
>
>
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
"Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> > driver
>
>
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
#16
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
"Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> > driver
>
>
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
"Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing the
> > driver
>
>
>
> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>
> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
> couldn't get to it.
>
> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
> gas carburetor setups too.)
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Dave, since you're from beautiful Scotland, have you had any good haggis
lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH
MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach,
mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy
Smoke! :D
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from
> moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
>
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
>> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing
>> > > the
>> > driver
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
>> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
>> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
>> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
>> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
>> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>>
>> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
>> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
>> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
>> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
>> couldn't get to it.
>>
>> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
>> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
>> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
>> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
>> gas carburetor setups too.)
>
>
lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH
MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach,
mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy
Smoke! :D
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from
> moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
>
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
>> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing
>> > > the
>> > driver
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
>> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
>> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
>> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
>> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
>> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>>
>> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
>> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
>> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
>> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
>> couldn't get to it.
>>
>> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
>> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
>> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
>> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
>> gas carburetor setups too.)
>
>
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Dave, since you're from beautiful Scotland, have you had any good haggis
lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH
MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach,
mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy
Smoke! :D
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from
> moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
>
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
>> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing
>> > > the
>> > driver
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
>> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
>> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
>> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
>> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
>> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>>
>> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
>> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
>> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
>> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
>> couldn't get to it.
>>
>> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
>> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
>> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
>> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
>> gas carburetor setups too.)
>
>
lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH
MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach,
mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy
Smoke! :D
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from
> moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
>
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
>> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing
>> > > the
>> > driver
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
>> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
>> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
>> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
>> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
>> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>>
>> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
>> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
>> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
>> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
>> couldn't get to it.
>>
>> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
>> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
>> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
>> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
>> gas carburetor setups too.)
>
>
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Dave, since you're from beautiful Scotland, have you had any good haggis
lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH
MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach,
mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy
Smoke! :D
Jerry
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from
> moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
>
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
>> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing
>> > > the
>> > driver
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
>> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
>> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
>> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
>> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
>> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>>
>> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
>> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
>> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
>> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
>> couldn't get to it.
>>
>> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
>> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
>> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
>> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
>> gas carburetor setups too.)
>
>
lately? I just saw the recipe for traditional haggis a few days ago and OH
MY GAWD the stuff that is in haggis!!! I mean.... sheep or lamb stomach,
mutton suet, lamb's liver, "hearts and lights (?) of the sheep, etc.. Holy
Smoke! :D
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HizZc.1439$aA5.15370341@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from
> moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
>
> "Ted Azito" <larboard34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b53da461.0409011247.2a7f2b13@posting.google.c om...
>> >
>> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:41355927.E73ED777@***.net...
>> > > Propane is guarantied to freeze full throttle usually killing
>> > > the
>> > driver
>>
>>
>>
>> Gee, Ak Miller never had that problem-nor did any of the many
>> offroad, Pikes Peak, and drag racers that ran it nor anyone else I
>> have ever heard. I'm not saying it never ever happened-it's very
>> certainly not common, and I'd go so far as to say, flat impossible in
>> straight propane setups. Since the fuel comes in as a gas even to
>> over-carb dual fuel setups, I'd say it's damn rare there too.
>>
>> But if it happened-same as on a gas car-turn off the ignition. The
>> fuelock shuts off fuel flow cold and if the engine were at WOT it
>> would clear itself in less than a second. All cars today, except
>> Saabs, have the key on the steering column so they can't claim they
>> couldn't get to it.
>>
>> Bill, you've said a lot of things I don't agree with, but this is the
>> first out and out dumb-as-a-rock one. This is so much horseshit I
>> have to believe even you don't believe it. (It might have happened on
>> one really shitty conversion---but it's happened on peckerwood-rigged
>> gas carburetor setups too.)
>
>
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
Hi Dave,
The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special
materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one
your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in
ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are
releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a
couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle.
Learn never use it for more than ten seconds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ
The company that made the conversion kit for you are use special
materials. Like the carburetor your using isn't the stock gasoline one
your car came with, as the first kits here in California, that froze, in
ninety degree weather. Remember like your Air Conditioning you are
releasing gas under pressure, which freezes. A friend was killed a
couple of years ago with a similar gas, nitrous froze full throttle.
Learn never use it for more than ten seconds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Propane does freeze the mixer water supply when the outside temperature
> is close to 32F, as the radiator thermostat prevents the water from moving.
> However, I've never had a problem once the engine has warmed up on petrol
> with propane at those temperatures on WOT; just can't see it happening.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer (Propane/Petrol), '99 TJ