Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
The Delco 'one wire' is actually a three wire. They have the excite and
sense and battery wires. In a stock CJ and early YJ format, the sense
wire is just tagged to the battery wire and the field wire is off the
coil power wire.
The 'one wire' hack version just doesn't hook up the field so it needs
3000 rpm to turn on. These are crap for a low rpm Jeep.
The version they sell has a crappy regulator that 'leaks' voltage easy
enough to be 'self energizing'. It is the same alternator. I can see
how they could consider this a 'bad' thing. LOL!
You even have to put some diode protection in the field wire with some
aftermarket ignitions or the alternator can run away with the Jeep, but
wired right, they are one of the easiest and best to convert to from any
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Ummm.
>
> By "one wire alternator" I mean the Aftermarket modified alternator
> that has only the output terminal, nothing else.
>
> The standard internal regulator GM alternator is a "two wire"
> alternator, it has the output terminal and a exciter wire. This is a
> good alternator and I have one on my Benz, the previous owner did the
> conversion. No one says this isn't a good alternator.
>
> As far as the stock TJ alternator, I can't believe there isn't a
> convenient alternative to the regulator based in the computer, and in
> fact there is.
>
> I just meant to point out that the true one wire alternator, which is
> sold mostly through street rod outlets (O'Reilly and AutoZone, whom I
> just called, all knew off them but didn't have one. Said they were
> bad.) is not a great idea.
sense and battery wires. In a stock CJ and early YJ format, the sense
wire is just tagged to the battery wire and the field wire is off the
coil power wire.
The 'one wire' hack version just doesn't hook up the field so it needs
3000 rpm to turn on. These are crap for a low rpm Jeep.
The version they sell has a crappy regulator that 'leaks' voltage easy
enough to be 'self energizing'. It is the same alternator. I can see
how they could consider this a 'bad' thing. LOL!
You even have to put some diode protection in the field wire with some
aftermarket ignitions or the alternator can run away with the Jeep, but
wired right, they are one of the easiest and best to convert to from any
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Ummm.
>
> By "one wire alternator" I mean the Aftermarket modified alternator
> that has only the output terminal, nothing else.
>
> The standard internal regulator GM alternator is a "two wire"
> alternator, it has the output terminal and a exciter wire. This is a
> good alternator and I have one on my Benz, the previous owner did the
> conversion. No one says this isn't a good alternator.
>
> As far as the stock TJ alternator, I can't believe there isn't a
> convenient alternative to the regulator based in the computer, and in
> fact there is.
>
> I just meant to point out that the true one wire alternator, which is
> sold mostly through street rod outlets (O'Reilly and AutoZone, whom I
> just called, all knew off them but didn't have one. Said they were
> bad.) is not a great idea.
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
The Delco 'one wire' is actually a three wire. They have the excite and
sense and battery wires. In a stock CJ and early YJ format, the sense
wire is just tagged to the battery wire and the field wire is off the
coil power wire.
The 'one wire' hack version just doesn't hook up the field so it needs
3000 rpm to turn on. These are crap for a low rpm Jeep.
The version they sell has a crappy regulator that 'leaks' voltage easy
enough to be 'self energizing'. It is the same alternator. I can see
how they could consider this a 'bad' thing. LOL!
You even have to put some diode protection in the field wire with some
aftermarket ignitions or the alternator can run away with the Jeep, but
wired right, they are one of the easiest and best to convert to from any
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Ummm.
>
> By "one wire alternator" I mean the Aftermarket modified alternator
> that has only the output terminal, nothing else.
>
> The standard internal regulator GM alternator is a "two wire"
> alternator, it has the output terminal and a exciter wire. This is a
> good alternator and I have one on my Benz, the previous owner did the
> conversion. No one says this isn't a good alternator.
>
> As far as the stock TJ alternator, I can't believe there isn't a
> convenient alternative to the regulator based in the computer, and in
> fact there is.
>
> I just meant to point out that the true one wire alternator, which is
> sold mostly through street rod outlets (O'Reilly and AutoZone, whom I
> just called, all knew off them but didn't have one. Said they were
> bad.) is not a great idea.
sense and battery wires. In a stock CJ and early YJ format, the sense
wire is just tagged to the battery wire and the field wire is off the
coil power wire.
The 'one wire' hack version just doesn't hook up the field so it needs
3000 rpm to turn on. These are crap for a low rpm Jeep.
The version they sell has a crappy regulator that 'leaks' voltage easy
enough to be 'self energizing'. It is the same alternator. I can see
how they could consider this a 'bad' thing. LOL!
You even have to put some diode protection in the field wire with some
aftermarket ignitions or the alternator can run away with the Jeep, but
wired right, they are one of the easiest and best to convert to from any
system.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Ummm.
>
> By "one wire alternator" I mean the Aftermarket modified alternator
> that has only the output terminal, nothing else.
>
> The standard internal regulator GM alternator is a "two wire"
> alternator, it has the output terminal and a exciter wire. This is a
> good alternator and I have one on my Benz, the previous owner did the
> conversion. No one says this isn't a good alternator.
>
> As far as the stock TJ alternator, I can't believe there isn't a
> convenient alternative to the regulator based in the computer, and in
> fact there is.
>
> I just meant to point out that the true one wire alternator, which is
> sold mostly through street rod outlets (O'Reilly and AutoZone, whom I
> just called, all knew off them but didn't have one. Said they were
> bad.) is not a great idea.
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
>day.
Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
RJ
wrote:
>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
>day.
Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
RJ
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
>day.
Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
RJ
wrote:
>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
>day.
Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
RJ
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
>day.
Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
RJ
wrote:
>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
>day.
Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
RJ
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
RJ wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
LOL!
Naw, carbs and me came to an 'arrangement' back in the 70's..... I
won't use the big hammer on them and they will behave if cussed at 'just
right!
;-)
Even when broken though, I can still make one work enough to get me to a
phone....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
LOL!
Naw, carbs and me came to an 'arrangement' back in the 70's..... I
won't use the big hammer on them and they will behave if cussed at 'just
right!
;-)
Even when broken though, I can still make one work enough to get me to a
phone....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
RJ wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
LOL!
Naw, carbs and me came to an 'arrangement' back in the 70's..... I
won't use the big hammer on them and they will behave if cussed at 'just
right!
;-)
Even when broken though, I can still make one work enough to get me to a
phone....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
LOL!
Naw, carbs and me came to an 'arrangement' back in the 70's..... I
won't use the big hammer on them and they will behave if cussed at 'just
right!
;-)
Even when broken though, I can still make one work enough to get me to a
phone....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
RJ wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
LOL!
Naw, carbs and me came to an 'arrangement' back in the 70's..... I
won't use the big hammer on them and they will behave if cussed at 'just
right!
;-)
Even when broken though, I can still make one work enough to get me to a
phone....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
LOL!
Naw, carbs and me came to an 'arrangement' back in the 70's..... I
won't use the big hammer on them and they will behave if cussed at 'just
right!
;-)
Even when broken though, I can still make one work enough to get me to a
phone....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
daily self abuse :-)
Dave "Twin SUs" Milne
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gafmk0h6lgvif317ujfmad8uegaed0ob8q@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
Dave "Twin SUs" Milne
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gafmk0h6lgvif317ujfmad8uegaed0ob8q@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
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Re: Getting Rid of Computer in Current TJ (without engine swap)
daily self abuse :-)
Dave "Twin SUs" Milne
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gafmk0h6lgvif317ujfmad8uegaed0ob8q@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
Dave "Twin SUs" Milne
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gafmk0h6lgvif317ujfmad8uegaed0ob8q@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >day.
>
> Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> RJ
