Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:49:25 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have even priced out points style distributors for mine so I can get
> > rid of all the engine electronics! Man when you are over 100 miles from
> > the nearest parts and 30 or more from phone service, it is so nice to
> > have things you can just trail fix.
>
> Ah, yes... blow an ignition module and you ARE going to walk to get
> the replacement while on several occasions my old Dodge PU came home
> with a piece of cardboard isolating one of the pair of dual points.
> Redundancy and simplicity built in. Of course, it would be nice if
> you had a carb built to that same standard but about all the ones
> produced in recent years have so much crap hung on them (by gov't fiat
> or for exoctic performance) that they can barely perform their basic
> function of delivering a combustible mixture to the cylinders when
> they ARE working right.
>
> And a decent toolkit was a hammer, a screwdriver, a pair of pliers and
> one roll of bailing wire. I guess that nowadays you would also have
> to add a roll of duct tape, tho <g>.
>
> --
> Will Honea

You got it, I was looking at Mallory dual point setups. The stock
Carter BBD is pretty forgiving for running crappy when messed up. It
will run really crappy, but the operative word is 'run'.

I actually have real hay wire on board right next to the duct tape...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:49:25 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have even priced out points style distributors for mine so I can get
> > rid of all the engine electronics! Man when you are over 100 miles from
> > the nearest parts and 30 or more from phone service, it is so nice to
> > have things you can just trail fix.
>
> Ah, yes... blow an ignition module and you ARE going to walk to get
> the replacement while on several occasions my old Dodge PU came home
> with a piece of cardboard isolating one of the pair of dual points.
> Redundancy and simplicity built in. Of course, it would be nice if
> you had a carb built to that same standard but about all the ones
> produced in recent years have so much crap hung on them (by gov't fiat
> or for exoctic performance) that they can barely perform their basic
> function of delivering a combustible mixture to the cylinders when
> they ARE working right.
>
> And a decent toolkit was a hammer, a screwdriver, a pair of pliers and
> one roll of bailing wire. I guess that nowadays you would also have
> to add a roll of duct tape, tho <g>.
>
> --
> Will Honea

You got it, I was looking at Mallory dual point setups. The stock
Carter BBD is pretty forgiving for running crappy when messed up. It
will run really crappy, but the operative word is 'run'.

I actually have real hay wire on board right next to the duct tape...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:49:25 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have even priced out points style distributors for mine so I can get
> > rid of all the engine electronics! Man when you are over 100 miles from
> > the nearest parts and 30 or more from phone service, it is so nice to
> > have things you can just trail fix.
>
> Ah, yes... blow an ignition module and you ARE going to walk to get
> the replacement while on several occasions my old Dodge PU came home
> with a piece of cardboard isolating one of the pair of dual points.
> Redundancy and simplicity built in. Of course, it would be nice if
> you had a carb built to that same standard but about all the ones
> produced in recent years have so much crap hung on them (by gov't fiat
> or for exoctic performance) that they can barely perform their basic
> function of delivering a combustible mixture to the cylinders when
> they ARE working right.
>
> And a decent toolkit was a hammer, a screwdriver, a pair of pliers and
> one roll of bailing wire. I guess that nowadays you would also have
> to add a roll of duct tape, tho <g>.
>
> --
> Will Honea

You got it, I was looking at Mallory dual point setups. The stock
Carter BBD is pretty forgiving for running crappy when messed up. It
will run really crappy, but the operative word is 'run'.

I actually have real hay wire on board right next to the duct tape...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Lon wrote:
>
> RJ proclaimed:
>
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >>day.
> >
> >
> > Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> Yeah, but Mike would probably be the first guy I'd expect to do a
> conversion to SU carbs and Lucas electrics on his jeep....

LOL! Man I have had fun with dual SU setups on a bunch of vehicles.
Minis, MGBs, Volvos....

Dodge '6 packs' were more fun though....

As far as that prince of darkness and warm beer goes, forget Lucas!
Lucas refrigerators, sheesh.... No wonder the poor Brits had to learn
to like warm beer.... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Lon wrote:
>
> RJ proclaimed:
>
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >>day.
> >
> >
> > Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> Yeah, but Mike would probably be the first guy I'd expect to do a
> conversion to SU carbs and Lucas electrics on his jeep....

LOL! Man I have had fun with dual SU setups on a bunch of vehicles.
Minis, MGBs, Volvos....

Dodge '6 packs' were more fun though....

As far as that prince of darkness and warm beer goes, forget Lucas!
Lucas refrigerators, sheesh.... No wonder the poor Brits had to learn
to like warm beer.... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Lon wrote:
>
> RJ proclaimed:
>
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:49:25 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>And yes, I for one actually 'like' getting under there and tweaking up
> >>the carb so it just purrs or thumps depending on what I want to do that
> >>day.
> >
> >
> > Getting a reluctant carburetor to work right is self-abuse.
>
> Yeah, but Mike would probably be the first guy I'd expect to do a
> conversion to SU carbs and Lucas electrics on his jeep....

LOL! Man I have had fun with dual SU setups on a bunch of vehicles.
Minis, MGBs, Volvos....

Dodge '6 packs' were more fun though....

As far as that prince of darkness and warm beer goes, forget Lucas!
Lucas refrigerators, sheesh.... No wonder the poor Brits had to learn
to like warm beer.... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Any given engine will make more power with FI than it will with a
carburetor, because of venturi drop. Really serious normally aspirated
FI setups use slide throttles so there is no restriction at WOT.

Mechanical fuel injection is sort of a lost art but still can be
done. As can EFI setups with redundant boxes-race cars do this
sometimes. EFI gives you full controllability and (with the
aftermarket box) reprogrammability with a laptop or PDA.

The best carburetor setup for full throttle performance is still the
IDA or DCOE Weber, one barrel per cylinder. The Italians got it right,
although a single four barrel Holley on a V-8 is probably easier to
sort out.

 

Any given engine will make more power with FI than it will with a
carburetor, because of venturi drop. Really serious normally aspirated
FI setups use slide throttles so there is no restriction at WOT.

Mechanical fuel injection is sort of a lost art but still can be
done. As can EFI setups with redundant boxes-race cars do this
sometimes. EFI gives you full controllability and (with the
aftermarket box) reprogrammability with a laptop or PDA.

The best carburetor setup for full throttle performance is still the
IDA or DCOE Weber, one barrel per cylinder. The Italians got it right,
although a single four barrel Holley on a V-8 is probably easier to
sort out.

 

Any given engine will make more power with FI than it will with a
carburetor, because of venturi drop. Really serious normally aspirated
FI setups use slide throttles so there is no restriction at WOT.

Mechanical fuel injection is sort of a lost art but still can be
done. As can EFI setups with redundant boxes-race cars do this
sometimes. EFI gives you full controllability and (with the
aftermarket box) reprogrammability with a laptop or PDA.

The best carburetor setup for full throttle performance is still the
IDA or DCOE Weber, one barrel per cylinder. The Italians got it right,
although a single four barrel Holley on a V-8 is probably easier to
sort out.

 

I like the Weber replacement carburetor for the old Rambler
engines, and they really make the trick VW 2180 cc and larger come to
life, but like your Italians, it takes a Holley to bet a Holley, and
it's the only thing used in Pro Stock drag racing:
http://www.nhra.com/2004/gallery/ps.html
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Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Any given engine will make more power with FI than it will with a
> carburetor, because of venturi drop. Really serious normally aspirated
> FI setups use slide throttles so there is no restriction at WOT.
>
> Mechanical fuel injection is sort of a lost art but still can be
> done. As can EFI setups with redundant boxes-race cars do this
> sometimes. EFI gives you full controllability and (with the
> aftermarket box) reprogrammability with a laptop or PDA.
>
> The best carburetor setup for full throttle performance is still the
> IDA or DCOE Weber, one barrel per cylinder. The Italians got it right,
> although a single four barrel Holley on a V-8 is probably easier to
> sort out.