Gas milage
03-22-2005, 04:27 PM
#41
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Re: Gas milage
Bill showed the right socket. It is the one you can fit a box or open
end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on.
Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that
is not needed with the open end wrench.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Danny wrote:
>
> XS11E wrote:
> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:
> >
> >
> >>i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from
> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....
> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...
> >
> >
> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug
> > wires* and replace them if needed.
> >
> >
> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine
> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a
> > good thing!
> >
>
> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1
> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there
> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on.
Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that
is not needed with the open end wrench.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Danny wrote:
>
> XS11E wrote:
> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:
> >
> >
> >>i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from
> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....
> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...
> >
> >
> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug
> > wires* and replace them if needed.
> >
> >
> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine
> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a
> > good thing!
> >
>
> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1
> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there
> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
03-22-2005, 04:27 PM
#42
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Re: Gas milage
Bill showed the right socket. It is the one you can fit a box or open
end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on.
Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that
is not needed with the open end wrench.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Danny wrote:
>
> XS11E wrote:
> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:
> >
> >
> >>i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from
> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....
> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...
> >
> >
> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug
> > wires* and replace them if needed.
> >
> >
> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine
> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a
> > good thing!
> >
>
> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1
> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there
> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on.
Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that
is not needed with the open end wrench.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Danny wrote:
>
> XS11E wrote:
> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:
> >
> >
> >>i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from
> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....
> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...
> >
> >
> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug
> > wires* and replace them if needed.
> >
> >
> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine
> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a
> > good thing!
> >
>
> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1
> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there
> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
03-22-2005, 04:27 PM
#43
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Re: Gas milage
Bill showed the right socket. It is the one you can fit a box or open
end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on.
Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that
is not needed with the open end wrench.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Danny wrote:
>
> XS11E wrote:
> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:
> >
> >
> >>i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from
> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....
> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...
> >
> >
> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug
> > wires* and replace them if needed.
> >
> >
> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine
> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a
> > good thing!
> >
>
> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1
> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there
> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
end wrench on and you take the rubber insert out so it angles on.
Bill's top photo shows it, but there is an angle knuckle in there that
is not needed with the open end wrench.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Danny wrote:
>
> XS11E wrote:
> > "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in news:St2dnWvzP-EqdaPfRVn-jA@comcast.com:
> >
> >
> >>i wish i could help you..... my mpg for the 98 cherokee went from
> >>17 city driving to 12.5 city driving over the last 2 months....
> >>waiting til warmer weather to root around... no idea as to why...
> >
> >
> > Throw in a new set of spark plugs and see what happens. Test the plug
> > wires* and replace them if needed.
> >
> >
> > *Easy plug wire test: open hood on a dark night with the engine
> > running, the fuzzy blue glow and arcs around the plug wires is NOT a
> > good thing!
> >
>
> I had a look at my '97 cherokee 4.0l and can't see how to take no:1
> plug out without removing anything else. It looks tight in there
> behind the alternator or compressor (I can't remember which).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
> Gold blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
03-22-2005, 04:37 PM
#44
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Re: Gas milage
if you have a GPS check to see if your speedometer is off...that will affect
your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations.
"David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...
>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug
>replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need
>to get the tires rotated again.
>
> David
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@***.net...
>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:
>> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>>>
>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
>>> put in a power steering pump,
>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>>>
>>> this trip,
>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>>>
>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>>>
>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
>>> ago,
>>> any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
>
>
your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations.
"David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...
>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug
>replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need
>to get the tires rotated again.
>
> David
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@***.net...
>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:
>> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>>>
>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
>>> put in a power steering pump,
>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>>>
>>> this trip,
>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>>>
>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>>>
>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
>>> ago,
>>> any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
>
>
03-22-2005, 04:37 PM
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: Gas milage
if you have a GPS check to see if your speedometer is off...that will affect
your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations.
"David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...
>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug
>replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need
>to get the tires rotated again.
>
> David
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@***.net...
>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:
>> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>>>
>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
>>> put in a power steering pump,
>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>>>
>>> this trip,
>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>>>
>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>>>
>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
>>> ago,
>>> any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
>
>
your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations.
"David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...
>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug
>replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need
>to get the tires rotated again.
>
> David
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@***.net...
>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:
>> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>>>
>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
>>> put in a power steering pump,
>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>>>
>>> this trip,
>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>>>
>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>>>
>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
>>> ago,
>>> any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
>
>
03-22-2005, 04:37 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Gas milage
if you have a GPS check to see if your speedometer is off...that will affect
your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations.
"David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...
>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug
>replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need
>to get the tires rotated again.
>
> David
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@***.net...
>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:
>> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>>>
>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
>>> put in a power steering pump,
>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>>>
>>> this trip,
>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>>>
>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>>>
>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
>>> ago,
>>> any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
>
>
your odometer readings and consequently your mileage calculations.
"David Rhodes" <davidrhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7wJ%d.6492$uw6.1688@trnddc06...
>I have had the oil changes and lubes. I have not done the 30K spark plug
>replacement yet nor drained the trans. Everything else is done. I also need
>to get the tires rotated again.
>
> David
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:423F5D9C.EEA8E3D7@***.net...
>> Have you performed the normal maintenance:
>> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>>>
>>> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
>>> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
>>> put in a power steering pump,
>>> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>>>
>>> this trip,
>>> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>>>
>>> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>>>
>>> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
>>> ago,
>>> any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> johnp
>>> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
>
>
03-22-2005, 06:22 PM
#47
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Posts: n/a
Re: Gas milage
You still have connection issues so my guess is the computer dropped to
'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
> put in a power steering pump,
> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>
> this trip,
> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>
> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>
> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
> ago,
> any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> johnp
> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
> put in a power steering pump,
> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>
> this trip,
> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>
> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>
> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
> ago,
> any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> johnp
> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
03-22-2005, 06:22 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Gas milage
You still have connection issues so my guess is the computer dropped to
'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
> put in a power steering pump,
> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>
> this trip,
> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>
> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>
> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
> ago,
> any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> johnp
> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
> put in a power steering pump,
> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>
> this trip,
> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>
> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>
> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
> ago,
> any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> johnp
> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
03-22-2005, 06:22 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Gas milage
You still have connection issues so my guess is the computer dropped to
'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
> put in a power steering pump,
> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>
> this trip,
> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>
> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>
> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
> ago,
> any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> johnp
> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
'limp home' mode which will burn a pile of gas.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dirty Ditch Dawg wrote:
>
> went for a 300 mile trip over the mountains, this weekend,
> when i first got my 90YJ i was getting 21mpg, (300 miles a tank) 14gal.
> put in a power steering pump,
> gas milage went to 17mpg (around 250 a tank.)
>
> this trip,
> 14mpg (220 miles a tank.)
>
> same tires, new plugs,distributer wires,
>
> havnt done anything to motor except the alternator trouble a few weeks
> ago,
> any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> johnp
> be nice to get back up to 18-20mpg,
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