Fuel problem
#21
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Re: Fuel problem
"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 22:42:38 UTC "Jay Stuler"
> <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > OK, armchair Jeep mechanic warriors.
> >
> > '76 CJ-7.
> > It has sat mostly in one place for the last month.
> > Last time I parked it, it had a full tank of gas.
> > Then last week I wanted to take it out so I went to the gas station, and
> > just to make sure, I topped it off with 30 cents of gas.
> > Drove it for 27 miles when it promptly died. It died in the way a car
dies
> > when it runs out of gas.
> > So AAA tows it back home to me. Still never starts.
> > I just put 2 gallons of gas in it and it starts right up!
> >
> > Now, the guy I bought it from told me that the fuel gauge was
> > "intermittent". And sure enough, when it had a full tank, it was
reading
> > very low. I thought the fuel gauge was just bad. But now it actually
seems
> > like the problem is something else. When I put the 2 gallons in just
now,
> > it went from dead E to a bit above E.
> >
> > I assume I have the stock (15 gallon?) fuel tank.
> > It obviously doesn't leak.
> > What the heck is going on? Is my tank somehow only holding a few
gallons?
> > Is the gas not getting to the engine when it gets low? Bad fuel pump?
> >
>
> First thing that comes to mind is that someone with a Texas Credit
> Card converted your full tank to his miles.
Since I didn't stop from the time I filled it to the time I stalled, I don't
think so.
> BTW, where did you find a
> syringe small enough to manage $0.30 worth of gas? That's barely
> enough to wet the fill pipe on the way in anymore <g>.
Actually I think it was like $.60 of gas. I squeezed the handle for about a
half second.
> I quit relying
> on fuel guages when the old dip stick went with my Model A -
> especially after taking up flying where the option of walking for more
> gas is a bit tricky.
I wasn't relying on the gauge, just saying it doesn't read correctly.
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Re: Fuel problem
"Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> fuel level. Easy to replace.
Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
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Re: Fuel problem
"Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> fuel level. Easy to replace.
Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
#24
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Re: Fuel problem
"Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> fuel level. Easy to replace.
Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
#25
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Re: Fuel problem
"Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> fuel level. Easy to replace.
Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
#26
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Re: Fuel problem
If the tank is full, you should siphon the tank till its empty. Makes it
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
#27
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Re: Fuel problem
If the tank is full, you should siphon the tank till its empty. Makes it
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
#28
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Re: Fuel problem
If the tank is full, you should siphon the tank till its empty. Makes it
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Yhuwc.2958$8G.2007@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Yhuwc.2958$8G.2007@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
#29
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Re: Fuel problem
If the tank is full, you should siphon the tank till its empty. Makes it
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Yhuwc.2958$8G.2007@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
alot easier to deal with.
Then remove the skid plate (if you have one) 4-6 bolts.
Remove the fill and vent hose at the hose clamp.
Lower the tank and remove the hoses that are attached at the sending unit
and the grounding wire and the sending wire.
Then with the tank unhooked and on the ground, just twist the Guage locking
ring and remove it.
Pull out the old sending unit.
You might use this opportunity to clean out the tank, get all that sediment
and dirt out. Rinse it with gas.
Just insert the new sending unit. And install the new lock ring.
Brad
"Jay Stuler" <usenetjunk2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ghostbuster" <brad2004@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10101
> > The fuel sending unit. It goes into the gas tank and sends the fuel and
> > fuel level. Easy to replace.
>
> Hm... yeah... how easy is "easy"? :)
>
>
#30
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Re: Fuel problem
First I would be looking for a hole in the gas line. Your gas line is a
suction line and if there is a hole in it, it can run ok until the gas
gets below the level of the hole, then it will suck air.
Topping it up raises the gas level, so some gravity feed is involved.
They usually leak where the clamps hold the line to the frame or the
flex lines rot and leak either at the tank or pump.
Because it is a suction line, it might not leak out onto the ground.
The other suction leak could be in the tank. The pickup tube which is
part of the gauge unit can rust away.
What kind of shape is the air filter on the gas tank vent? If plugged
up with mud, it will vacuum lock the gas tank and do the damnedest
imitation of running out of gas you ever want to see. Let it sit for 10
or 20 minutes and it will fire up and run again.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> OK, armchair Jeep mechanic warriors.
>
> '76 CJ-7.
> It has sat mostly in one place for the last month.
> Last time I parked it, it had a full tank of gas.
> Then last week I wanted to take it out so I went to the gas station, and
> just to make sure, I topped it off with 30 cents of gas.
> Drove it for 27 miles when it promptly died. It died in the way a car dies
> when it runs out of gas.
> So AAA tows it back home to me. Still never starts.
> I just put 2 gallons of gas in it and it starts right up!
>
> Now, the guy I bought it from told me that the fuel gauge was
> "intermittent". And sure enough, when it had a full tank, it was reading
> very low. I thought the fuel gauge was just bad. But now it actually seems
> like the problem is something else. When I put the 2 gallons in just now,
> it went from dead E to a bit above E.
>
> I assume I have the stock (15 gallon?) fuel tank.
> It obviously doesn't leak.
> What the heck is going on? Is my tank somehow only holding a few gallons?
> Is the gas not getting to the engine when it gets low? Bad fuel pump?
>
> --
> "What we need are a couple of good hangings" - FTC Chairman Orson Swindle,
> regarding email spam
suction line and if there is a hole in it, it can run ok until the gas
gets below the level of the hole, then it will suck air.
Topping it up raises the gas level, so some gravity feed is involved.
They usually leak where the clamps hold the line to the frame or the
flex lines rot and leak either at the tank or pump.
Because it is a suction line, it might not leak out onto the ground.
The other suction leak could be in the tank. The pickup tube which is
part of the gauge unit can rust away.
What kind of shape is the air filter on the gas tank vent? If plugged
up with mud, it will vacuum lock the gas tank and do the damnedest
imitation of running out of gas you ever want to see. Let it sit for 10
or 20 minutes and it will fire up and run again.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> OK, armchair Jeep mechanic warriors.
>
> '76 CJ-7.
> It has sat mostly in one place for the last month.
> Last time I parked it, it had a full tank of gas.
> Then last week I wanted to take it out so I went to the gas station, and
> just to make sure, I topped it off with 30 cents of gas.
> Drove it for 27 miles when it promptly died. It died in the way a car dies
> when it runs out of gas.
> So AAA tows it back home to me. Still never starts.
> I just put 2 gallons of gas in it and it starts right up!
>
> Now, the guy I bought it from told me that the fuel gauge was
> "intermittent". And sure enough, when it had a full tank, it was reading
> very low. I thought the fuel gauge was just bad. But now it actually seems
> like the problem is something else. When I put the 2 gallons in just now,
> it went from dead E to a bit above E.
>
> I assume I have the stock (15 gallon?) fuel tank.
> It obviously doesn't leak.
> What the heck is going on? Is my tank somehow only holding a few gallons?
> Is the gas not getting to the engine when it gets low? Bad fuel pump?
>
> --
> "What we need are a couple of good hangings" - FTC Chairman Orson Swindle,
> regarding email spam