Front U-joints
02-13-2007, 10:46 PM
#21
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Re: Front U-joints
Those joints are spun at all times, only load is from reverse spinning
the differential. But the joints could disassemble from jamming at full
lock (as in parking etc) Get them fixed soon.
Although Matt mentioned PB blaster, if you live in the rust belt, the
hub MAY be rusted in fairly solid or REALLY solid. Many new and bad
words have been said concerning removal of same.
Don Hamilton wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:JeednedTsuxw9E_YnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>U-joints shouldn't have any play.
>>
>>The three bolts that hold the unit wheel bearing in the knuckle are 13mm
>>12-point bolts, you'll need a 12-point socket.
>>
>>Soak the bolts and all around the bearing/knuckle mating surface with
>>penetrating oil like PB Blaster for a day or so, esp if you live in the
>>rust belt.
>>
>>"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
>>>after removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to
>>>come out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type
>>>of axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type
>>>rattle mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and
>>>cannot find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come
>>
>>>from the right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my
>>
>>>ears could be that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I
>>>feel with my mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct
>>>spares as well. All advice appreciated. Don
>>>
>>
> Thanks for the help. Will slightly loose u-joints make noise when locked and
> unlocked both? I am changing them as soon as possible and hope this stops
> the rattle. As long as the front is not in 4-wheel it should not come apart
> I hope. Don
>
>
the differential. But the joints could disassemble from jamming at full
lock (as in parking etc) Get them fixed soon.
Although Matt mentioned PB blaster, if you live in the rust belt, the
hub MAY be rusted in fairly solid or REALLY solid. Many new and bad
words have been said concerning removal of same.
Don Hamilton wrote:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:JeednedTsuxw9E_YnZ2dnUVZ_qqrnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>U-joints shouldn't have any play.
>>
>>The three bolts that hold the unit wheel bearing in the knuckle are 13mm
>>12-point bolts, you'll need a 12-point socket.
>>
>>Soak the bolts and all around the bearing/knuckle mating surface with
>>penetrating oil like PB Blaster for a day or so, esp if you live in the
>>rust belt.
>>
>>"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
>>>after removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to
>>>come out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type
>>>of axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type
>>>rattle mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and
>>>cannot find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come
>>
>>>from the right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my
>>
>>>ears could be that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I
>>>feel with my mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct
>>>spares as well. All advice appreciated. Don
>>>
>>
> Thanks for the help. Will slightly loose u-joints make noise when locked and
> unlocked both? I am changing them as soon as possible and hope this stops
> the rattle. As long as the front is not in 4-wheel it should not come apart
> I hope. Don
>
>
02-14-2007, 09:51 AM
#26
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Re: Front U-joints
On Feb 13, 7:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
02-14-2007, 09:51 AM
#27
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Re: Front U-joints
On Feb 13, 7:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
02-14-2007, 09:51 AM
#28
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Re: Front U-joints
On Feb 13, 7:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
02-14-2007, 09:51 AM
#29
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Re: Front U-joints
On Feb 13, 7:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
> The axles slide out.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after
> > removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> > out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> > axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> > mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> > find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> > right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
> be
> > that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> > mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
> well.
> > All advice appreciated. Don
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
deform the bolt heads.
02-14-2007, 10:24 AM
#30
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Re: Front U-joints
I have one sacrificial bolt I use and just move that one around to beat
on. It also helps to cut the steering side to side to get room to swing
the BFH.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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nrs wrote:
> On Feb 13, 7:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
>> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
>> The axles slide out.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
>> after
>>> removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
>>> out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
>>> axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
>>> mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
>>> find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
>>> right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
>> be
>>> that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
>>> mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
>> well.
>>> All advice appreciated. Don
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
> are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
> deform the bolt heads.
>
>
on. It also helps to cut the steering side to side to get room to swing
the BFH.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
nrs wrote:
> On Feb 13, 7:49 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
>> bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:http://www.----------.com/Dana30Whee...h/axle/ujoint/
>> The axles slide out.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnos...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
>> after
>>> removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
>>> out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
>>> axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
>>> mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
>>> find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
>>> right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
>> be
>>> that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
>>> mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
>> well.
>>> All advice appreciated. Don
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> I would recommend getting some bolts from the hardware store if you
> are going to hammer on them. You may have to hit it hard enough to
> deform the bolt heads.
>
>
