Frame Cracks - How serious?
#41
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Oh yes, that would be twisting impact damage from strapping.
That Jeep has been well used. If those are the only cracks, you are
doing good.
Mine were fatigue from flexing combined with rust cracks.
I would use angle iron on both for a patch. I would drill and try to
weld the crack, then put angle iron patches on top of them.
I had to have a piece of angle iron 18" long by 2"x4" put on the outside
above the front spring hanger on mine.
Mike
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409A8FCE.5FB93F22@sympatico.ca...
> > Interesting, yes, you are correct, I didn't realize what I was looking
> > at.
> >
> > That is a very 'odd' place to have a broken frame. Normally when those
> > frames crack, they go on the inside just by the rear passenger side
> > spring at it's front and on the drivers side rear of front spring.
> >
> > Was there a winch up front or was it ever 'really' stuck and yanked on
> > hard from the front corner?
> >
> > I am thinking I am seeing twisting impact damage like if there was a tow
> > hook on the bottom of the front frame corner that got used hard or a
> > lot.
> >
> > Anyway, in my opinion some jobs are best left to professionals.... That
> > is one of them.
> >
> > My rear crack was fixed back in 2000 and the last one up front a little
> > bit ago. The repairs have held nicely.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > ks wrote:
> > >
> > > I was hoping for a more optomistic response ;-)
> > >
> > > The second crack is on the inside box right? Thats looking from the
> engine
> > > back towards the tire. See the brake line heading through the frame out
> > > towards the tire. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:409A86F3.4EFB83B9@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and
> no
> > > > way would I go for the cracks in my frame.
> > > >
> > > > Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
> > > > added inside box.
> > > >
> > > > Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
> > > > them....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > ks wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far.
> Do
> > > > > these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have
> read
> > > some
> > > > > previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should
> "stop-drill"
> > > the
> > > > > cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the
> frame.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pics
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG
> (just
> > > > > behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG
> (pass
> > > > > side, about even with front shock mount)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far.
> My
> > > > > neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a
> new
> > > > > frame)?
That Jeep has been well used. If those are the only cracks, you are
doing good.
Mine were fatigue from flexing combined with rust cracks.
I would use angle iron on both for a patch. I would drill and try to
weld the crack, then put angle iron patches on top of them.
I had to have a piece of angle iron 18" long by 2"x4" put on the outside
above the front spring hanger on mine.
Mike
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:409A8FCE.5FB93F22@sympatico.ca...
> > Interesting, yes, you are correct, I didn't realize what I was looking
> > at.
> >
> > That is a very 'odd' place to have a broken frame. Normally when those
> > frames crack, they go on the inside just by the rear passenger side
> > spring at it's front and on the drivers side rear of front spring.
> >
> > Was there a winch up front or was it ever 'really' stuck and yanked on
> > hard from the front corner?
> >
> > I am thinking I am seeing twisting impact damage like if there was a tow
> > hook on the bottom of the front frame corner that got used hard or a
> > lot.
> >
> > Anyway, in my opinion some jobs are best left to professionals.... That
> > is one of them.
> >
> > My rear crack was fixed back in 2000 and the last one up front a little
> > bit ago. The repairs have held nicely.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > ks wrote:
> > >
> > > I was hoping for a more optomistic response ;-)
> > >
> > > The second crack is on the inside box right? Thats looking from the
> engine
> > > back towards the tire. See the brake line heading through the frame out
> > > towards the tire. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:409A86F3.4EFB83B9@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and
> no
> > > > way would I go for the cracks in my frame.
> > > >
> > > > Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
> > > > added inside box.
> > > >
> > > > Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
> > > > them....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > ks wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far.
> Do
> > > > > these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have
> read
> > > some
> > > > > previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should
> "stop-drill"
> > > the
> > > > > cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the
> frame.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pics
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG
> (just
> > > > > behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG
> (pass
> > > > > side, about even with front shock mount)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far.
> My
> > > > > neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a
> new
> > > > > frame)?
#42
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Frame is in great shape compared to the original body (that I'm replacing
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
#43
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Frame is in great shape compared to the original body (that I'm replacing
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Frame is in great shape compared to the original body (that I'm replacing
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Frame is in great shape compared to the original body (that I'm replacing
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
right now) ;-)
Heh... this is what my roll cage was mounted to
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...isc/tub_04.JPG
I was literaly able to rip my seat belt right out of the body.
#46
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Did the previous owner tell you why he sold it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
#47
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Did the previous owner tell you why he sold it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
#48
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Did the previous owner tell you why he sold it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
#49
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
Did the previous owner tell you why he sold it?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
ks wrote:
>
> You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
>
> Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice the
> strap on that side.....
>
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
>
> Kevin
#50
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Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
He was 'mechanically challenged' and decided to have his 99 XJ built up for
the trail. I've had it for two years and done my SOA, bigger tires, locker,
so those cracks "could" have happened since I bought i, (but I doubt it
since I've never had a strap on it).
Not a big deal to me. I'll just fix it and move on. I got it cheap enough
that I expected to replace the tub, among other things.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:409AAA32.CEAAC34D@***.net...
> Did the previous owner tell you why he sold it?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ks wrote:
> >
> > You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
> >
> > Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice
the
> > strap on that side.....
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
> >
> > Kevin
the trail. I've had it for two years and done my SOA, bigger tires, locker,
so those cracks "could" have happened since I bought i, (but I doubt it
since I've never had a strap on it).
Not a big deal to me. I'll just fix it and move on. I got it cheap enough
that I expected to replace the tub, among other things.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:409AAA32.CEAAC34D@***.net...
> Did the previous owner tell you why he sold it?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> ks wrote:
> >
> > You might be right.... no winch, but two tow hooks are on the front.
> >
> > Here's one of the orignal pics he sent me before I bought it. Notice
the
> > strap on that side.....
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...redbird_05.jpg
> >
> > Kevin