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ks 05-06-2004 12:56 PM

Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.

Pics
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
behind front crossmember on pass. side)
http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
side, about even with front shock mount)

I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
frame)?




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-06-2004 02:33 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
The patch is called a gusset, and I weld that six inch plate
lengthwise over the crack not connecting the horizontal and vertical
welds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-06-2004 02:33 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
The patch is called a gusset, and I weld that six inch plate
lengthwise over the crack not connecting the horizontal and vertical
welds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-06-2004 02:33 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
The patch is called a gusset, and I weld that six inch plate
lengthwise over the crack not connecting the horizontal and vertical
welds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-06-2004 02:33 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
The patch is called a gusset, and I weld that six inch plate
lengthwise over the crack not connecting the horizontal and vertical
welds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


Mike Romain 05-06-2004 02:41 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and no
way would I go for the cracks in my frame.

Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
added inside box.

Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
them....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


Mike Romain 05-06-2004 02:41 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and no
way would I go for the cracks in my frame.

Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
added inside box.

Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
them....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


Mike Romain 05-06-2004 02:41 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and no
way would I go for the cracks in my frame.

Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
added inside box.

Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
them....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


Mike Romain 05-06-2004 02:41 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and no
way would I go for the cracks in my frame.

Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
added inside box.

Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
them....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ks wrote:
>
> While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
>
> Pics
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> side, about even with front shock mount)
>
> I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> frame)?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-06-2004 03:06 PM

Re: Frame Cracks - How serious?
 
The frame would have to be thicker for my stick welding ability.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I have a fair bit of experience with a small wire feed mig welder and no
> way would I go for the cracks in my frame.
>
> Those are nasty cracks, they are in the main frame rail too, not the
> added inside box.
>
> Even the professional welders that did my repairs wouldn't warranty
> them....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> ks wrote:
> >
> > While tearing down for my tub swap, I have found two cracks so far. Do
> > these warrant a professional or can I do it successfully. I have read some
> > previous "frame crack" posts and it sounds like I should "stop-drill" the
> > cracks, and then use a patch that is welded horizontaly to the frame.
> >
> > Pics
> > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_01.JPG (just
> > behind front crossmember on pass. side)
> > http://www.geocities.com/co_big_chee...c/crack_02.JPG (pass
> > side, about even with front shock mount)
> >
> > I have a 220 Mig welder, but very little experience using it so far. My
> > neighbor also has a 220 arc welder. Suggestions (short of buying a new
> > frame)?



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