Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Earle Horton wrote:
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>
>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>> book.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>
> Earle
>
LOL!
I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
water cover...
The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
snapped so I soldered them off.
I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
common issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>
>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>> book.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>
> Earle
>
LOL!
I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
water cover...
The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
snapped so I soldered them off.
I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
common issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#352
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Earle Horton wrote:
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>
>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>> book.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>
> Earle
>
LOL!
I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
water cover...
The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
snapped so I soldered them off.
I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
common issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>
>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>> book.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>
> Earle
>
LOL!
I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
water cover...
The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
snapped so I soldered them off.
I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
common issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#353
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Earle Horton wrote:
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>
>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>> book.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>
> Earle
>
LOL!
I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
water cover...
The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
snapped so I soldered them off.
I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
common issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>
>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>> book.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>
> Earle
>
LOL!
I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
water cover...
The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
snapped so I soldered them off.
I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
common issue.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#354
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Mike is my belt still holding your front bumper on?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#355
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Mike is my belt still holding your front bumper on?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45b02aa7$0$6701$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45b02aa7$0$6701$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#356
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Mike is my belt still holding your front bumper on?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45b02aa7$0$6701$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
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Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
Mike is my belt still holding your front bumper on?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45b02aa7$0$6701$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he
>> has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple snapped
> so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side
> free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#358
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:20:18 -0500, Mike Romain wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
> snapped so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
Take a look at your XJ - two bolts in the top, two fairly large pins on
the bottom that drop into holes with rubber grommets. AIR,the oles in the
cross member at the bottom are oval so that the bottom of the radiator can
slide, but that may just be my poor memory. That makes a lot more sense
than 4 solid mount bolts, especially under flex.
I agree with you about the flexible plastic blades. Mine have wear marks
on the front of the tips that have to be from hitting the radiator - the
fan I have has pretty flexible blades, so if you add any play at all in
the clutch you can easily get it into the radiator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
> snapped so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
Take a look at your XJ - two bolts in the top, two fairly large pins on
the bottom that drop into holes with rubber grommets. AIR,the oles in the
cross member at the bottom are oval so that the bottom of the radiator can
slide, but that may just be my poor memory. That makes a lot more sense
than 4 solid mount bolts, especially under flex.
I agree with you about the flexible plastic blades. Mine have wear marks
on the front of the tips that have to be from hitting the radiator - the
fan I have has pretty flexible blades, so if you add any play at all in
the clutch you can easily get it into the radiator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
#359
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:20:18 -0500, Mike Romain wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
> snapped so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
Take a look at your XJ - two bolts in the top, two fairly large pins on
the bottom that drop into holes with rubber grommets. AIR,the oles in the
cross member at the bottom are oval so that the bottom of the radiator can
slide, but that may just be my poor memory. That makes a lot more sense
than 4 solid mount bolts, especially under flex.
I agree with you about the flexible plastic blades. Mine have wear marks
on the front of the tips that have to be from hitting the radiator - the
fan I have has pretty flexible blades, so if you add any play at all in
the clutch you can easily get it into the radiator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
> snapped so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
Take a look at your XJ - two bolts in the top, two fairly large pins on
the bottom that drop into holes with rubber grommets. AIR,the oles in the
cross member at the bottom are oval so that the bottom of the radiator can
slide, but that may just be my poor memory. That makes a lot more sense
than 4 solid mount bolts, especially under flex.
I agree with you about the flexible plastic blades. Mine have wear marks
on the front of the tips that have to be from hitting the radiator - the
fan I have has pretty flexible blades, so if you add any play at all in
the clutch you can easily get it into the radiator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
#360
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Followup-- 2000 JGC V-8 still overheating
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:20:18 -0500, Mike Romain wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
> snapped so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
Take a look at your XJ - two bolts in the top, two fairly large pins on
the bottom that drop into holes with rubber grommets. AIR,the oles in the
cross member at the bottom are oval so that the bottom of the radiator can
slide, but that may just be my poor memory. That makes a lot more sense
than 4 solid mount bolts, especially under flex.
I agree with you about the flexible plastic blades. Mine have wear marks
on the front of the tips that have to be from hitting the radiator - the
fan I have has pretty flexible blades, so if you add any play at all in
the clutch you can easily get it into the radiator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>> news:h270r25ousi635rk4tuu068hpk4s96lhn4@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:56:58 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen fans get sucked into the rad when under water
>>>
>>> THe fan does not get sucked into it. Eaither the radiator moves toward
>>> it on impact of engine shifts forward but even then if you did not
>>> have a shoe horn fit with 1 inch or less fan clearance it would not
>>> happen. If you have 3 to 6 inches of clearance or more in there it
>>> will never happen unless you break something. Low engine driven fan
>>> to radiator clearance on a off road machine is not a wise setup in my
>>> book.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Mike would tear hell out of any shroud too with that fiberglass body he has.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I have my rad hanging off two angle iron supports I welded to the frame
> rails. The shroud would have to have a frame of it's own.
>
> Having the rad held with 4 bolts causes the rad to snap in half because
> the frame rails flex so much because the 'glass body lets it. I have a
> one piece 'glass flip front. No structure at all in it, it is just a
> water cover...
>
> The side plates of the rad snap from the flex. I made my own side rails
> out of 1"x1/8" steel plate bar and welded it onto the stock sides. They
> stretched about 1/4". A bunch of my cores stretched and a couple
> snapped so I soldered them off.
>
> I now just hang my rad off two top bolts and let it swing side to side free.
>
> I was talking to a few other 'glass tub owners and apparently that is a
> common issue.
Take a look at your XJ - two bolts in the top, two fairly large pins on
the bottom that drop into holes with rubber grommets. AIR,the oles in the
cross member at the bottom are oval so that the bottom of the radiator can
slide, but that may just be my poor memory. That makes a lot more sense
than 4 solid mount bolts, especially under flex.
I agree with you about the flexible plastic blades. Mine have wear marks
on the front of the tips that have to be from hitting the radiator - the
fan I have has pretty flexible blades, so if you add any play at all in
the clutch you can easily get it into the radiator.
--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>