First mods to my new Rubi
12-07-2003, 10:14 PM
#31
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Thanks for the input. I guess the alarm question wasn't well stated.
I've been lurking in here for at least 4 years, and I've read of several
guys putting alarms and remote starters on their Jeeps. So I was
curious as to just which ones some of these Jeepers have used. Just to
clarify, I did the install of the plug and play alarm on my '98
Wrangler, and then I did the splicing install of the remote starter
later on the same vehicle. But moisture getting into those connections
and such can wreak havoc on a vehicle's electrical system. A little bit
of corrosion in one of those connections can cause enough of a voltage
drop to kill the ignition. And that would just suck. So, if I don't
have to go cutting into the wires on the new Jeep I'd be much happier,
not to mention it would save me some time.
CRWLR wrote:
> "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:jDNAb.25072$dr1.4147341@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
>
>>Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
>>do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
>>But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
>>
>>First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
>>somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
>>(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
>>
>
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye on the
> undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no idea what the
> salt does.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
>>that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
>>wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
>>with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
>>before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
>>noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
>>
>
> There is nothing from the factory, but I am sure you can find something if
> you look long enough.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
>>start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
>>play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
>>starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
>>carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
>>forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
>>away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
>>Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
>>recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
>>play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
>>not absolutely necessary.
>>
>
> Is this really a Jeep question, or is it a remote starter/alarm system
> question? There are many variables that go into the answer for this sort of
> thing, and the variables that are important to me are likely not very
> important to you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I've been lurking in here for at least 4 years, and I've read of several
guys putting alarms and remote starters on their Jeeps. So I was
curious as to just which ones some of these Jeepers have used. Just to
clarify, I did the install of the plug and play alarm on my '98
Wrangler, and then I did the splicing install of the remote starter
later on the same vehicle. But moisture getting into those connections
and such can wreak havoc on a vehicle's electrical system. A little bit
of corrosion in one of those connections can cause enough of a voltage
drop to kill the ignition. And that would just suck. So, if I don't
have to go cutting into the wires on the new Jeep I'd be much happier,
not to mention it would save me some time.
CRWLR wrote:
> "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:jDNAb.25072$dr1.4147341@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
>
>>Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
>>do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
>>But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
>>
>>First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
>>somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
>>(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
>>
>
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye on the
> undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no idea what the
> salt does.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
>>that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
>>wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
>>with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
>>before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
>>noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
>>
>
> There is nothing from the factory, but I am sure you can find something if
> you look long enough.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
>>start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
>>play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
>>starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
>>carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
>>forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
>>away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
>>Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
>>recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
>>play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
>>not absolutely necessary.
>>
>
> Is this really a Jeep question, or is it a remote starter/alarm system
> question? There are many variables that go into the answer for this sort of
> thing, and the variables that are important to me are likely not very
> important to you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
12-07-2003, 10:16 PM
#32
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Sorry about the HTML. That should be all fixed now. My bad.
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>
>>I know, I know. :-D
>
>
> Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
> use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
> in the same place....
>
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>
>>I know, I know. :-D
>
>
> Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
> use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
> in the same place....
>
12-07-2003, 10:16 PM
#33
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Sorry about the HTML. That should be all fixed now. My bad.
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>
>>I know, I know. :-D
>
>
> Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
> use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
> in the same place....
>
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>
>>I know, I know. :-D
>
>
> Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
> use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
> in the same place....
>
12-07-2003, 10:16 PM
#34
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Sorry about the HTML. That should be all fixed now. My bad.
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>
>>I know, I know. :-D
>
>
> Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
> use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
> in the same place....
>
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>
>>I know, I know. :-D
>
>
> Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
> use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
> in the same place....
>
12-07-2003, 11:26 PM
#35
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
---snippers---
> >
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> idea what the salt does.
>
It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
> > Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> > carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
it, and hope for another rust-free year.
Earle
news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
---snippers---
> >
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> idea what the salt does.
>
It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
> > Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> > carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
it, and hope for another rust-free year.
Earle
12-07-2003, 11:26 PM
#36
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
---snippers---
> >
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> idea what the salt does.
>
It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
> > Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> > carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
it, and hope for another rust-free year.
Earle
news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
---snippers---
> >
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> idea what the salt does.
>
It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
> > Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> > carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
it, and hope for another rust-free year.
Earle
12-07-2003, 11:26 PM
#37
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
---snippers---
> >
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> idea what the salt does.
>
It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
> > Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> > carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
it, and hope for another rust-free year.
Earle
news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
---snippers---
> >
> If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> idea what the salt does.
>
It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
> > Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> > carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
it, and hope for another rust-free year.
Earle
12-08-2003, 12:11 AM
#38
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Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
Earle Horton wrote:
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> ---snippers---
>
>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>idea what the salt does.
>>
>
>
> It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
> ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
> lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
> candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
>
>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>
>
> Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
> J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
> for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
> rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>
> I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
> J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
> on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
> it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>
> Earle
>
>
put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
Earle Horton wrote:
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> ---snippers---
>
>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>idea what the salt does.
>>
>
>
> It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
> ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
> lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
> candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
>
>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>
>
> Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
> J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
> for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
> rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>
> I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
> J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
> on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
> it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>
> Earle
>
>
12-08-2003, 12:11 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
Earle Horton wrote:
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> ---snippers---
>
>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>idea what the salt does.
>>
>
>
> It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
> ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
> lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
> candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
>
>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>
>
> Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
> J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
> for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
> rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>
> I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
> J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
> on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
> it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>
> Earle
>
>
put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
Earle Horton wrote:
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> ---snippers---
>
>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>idea what the salt does.
>>
>
>
> It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
> ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
> lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
> candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
>
>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>
>
> Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
> J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
> for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
> rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>
> I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
> J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
> on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
> it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>
> Earle
>
>
12-08-2003, 12:11 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: First mods to my new Rubi
Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
Earle Horton wrote:
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> ---snippers---
>
>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>idea what the salt does.
>>
>
>
> It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
> ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
> lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
> candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
>
>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>
>
> Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
> J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
> for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
> rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>
> I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
> J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
> on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
> it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>
> Earle
>
>
put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
Earle Horton wrote:
> "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>
> ---snippers---
>
>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>idea what the salt does.
>>
>
>
> It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you are
> ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding. I
> lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was a
> candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>
>
>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>
>
> Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet from
> J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom cut
> for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the floor to
> rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>
> I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ from
> J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a year
> on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint, dry
> it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>
> Earle
>
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