Valued User

Actually when I went to order my Sport the other day a chick came and showed
me accessories, including:

undercoating - "..this is a wrangler, i plan on having a thick coat of mud
under it"

interior stain stuff -".. does it get out mud?"

Security system with auto door locks - i said ".. the wrangler doesn't have
power locks" she then said "there are 2 sensors" and i was like "..you make
the doors power" she said "yes" , yea right..



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ojf7tvo0na6409p8vf4t5l6sa0hb12vspd@4ax.com...
> Under coating, interior coating, and an alarm system? Yer kidding,
> right? :)
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:14:39 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
> >Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
> >do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
> >But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
> >
> >First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
> >somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
> >(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
> >
> >Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
> >that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
> >wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
> >with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
> >before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
> >noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
> >
> >Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
> >start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
> >play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
> >starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
> >carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
> >forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
> >away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
> >Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
> >recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
> >play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
> >not absolutely necessary.
> >
> >That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Jay
>

Valued User

Actually when I went to order my Sport the other day a chick came and showed
me accessories, including:

undercoating - "..this is a wrangler, i plan on having a thick coat of mud
under it"

interior stain stuff -".. does it get out mud?"

Security system with auto door locks - i said ".. the wrangler doesn't have
power locks" she then said "there are 2 sensors" and i was like "..you make
the doors power" she said "yes" , yea right..



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ojf7tvo0na6409p8vf4t5l6sa0hb12vspd@4ax.com...
> Under coating, interior coating, and an alarm system? Yer kidding,
> right? :)
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:14:39 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
> >Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
> >do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
> >But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
> >
> >First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
> >somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
> >(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
> >
> >Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
> >that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
> >wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
> >with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
> >before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
> >noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
> >
> >Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
> >start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
> >play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
> >starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
> >carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
> >forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
> >away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
> >Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
> >recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
> >play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
> >not absolutely necessary.
> >
> >That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Jay
>

Valued User

Actually when I went to order my Sport the other day a chick came and showed
me accessories, including:

undercoating - "..this is a wrangler, i plan on having a thick coat of mud
under it"

interior stain stuff -".. does it get out mud?"

Security system with auto door locks - i said ".. the wrangler doesn't have
power locks" she then said "there are 2 sensors" and i was like "..you make
the doors power" she said "yes" , yea right..



"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ojf7tvo0na6409p8vf4t5l6sa0hb12vspd@4ax.com...
> Under coating, interior coating, and an alarm system? Yer kidding,
> right? :)
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:14:39 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
> >Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
> >do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
> >But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
> >
> >First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
> >somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
> >(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
> >
> >Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
> >that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
> >wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
> >with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
> >before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
> >noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
> >
> >Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
> >start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
> >play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
> >starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
> >carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
> >forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
> >away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
> >Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
> >recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
> >play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
> >not absolutely necessary.
> >
> >That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Jay
>

Valued User

if somethign is galvanized then it shouldnt' rust.

doesn't the jeep come with 7/70 rust warranty? you'd think they probably do
a good job of rustproffing knowing that many folks take them into wet
areas...


"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:iKTAb.4783$W02.1100669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
> put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> > news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > ---snippers---
> >
> >>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> >>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> >>idea what the salt does.
> >>
> >
> >
> > It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you
are
> > ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding.
I
> > lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was
a
> > candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
> >
> >
> >>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> >>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
> >
> >
> > Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> > reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet
from
> > J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom
cut
> > for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the
floor to
> > rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
> >
> > I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ
from
> > J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> > vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> > takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a
year
> > on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint,
dry
> > it, and hope for another rust-free year.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
>

Valued User

if somethign is galvanized then it shouldnt' rust.

doesn't the jeep come with 7/70 rust warranty? you'd think they probably do
a good job of rustproffing knowing that many folks take them into wet
areas...


"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:iKTAb.4783$W02.1100669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
> put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> > news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > ---snippers---
> >
> >>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> >>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> >>idea what the salt does.
> >>
> >
> >
> > It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you
are
> > ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding.
I
> > lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was
a
> > candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
> >
> >
> >>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> >>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
> >
> >
> > Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> > reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet
from
> > J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom
cut
> > for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the
floor to
> > rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
> >
> > I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ
from
> > J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> > vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> > takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a
year
> > on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint,
dry
> > it, and hope for another rust-free year.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
>

Valued User

if somethign is galvanized then it shouldnt' rust.

doesn't the jeep come with 7/70 rust warranty? you'd think they probably do
a good job of rustproffing knowing that many folks take them into wet
areas...


"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
news:iKTAb.4783$W02.1100669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
> Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
> put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
> > news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > ---snippers---
> >
> >>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
> >>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
> >>idea what the salt does.
> >>
> >
> >
> > It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you
are
> > ****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding.
I
> > lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was
a
> > candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
> >
> >
> >>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> >>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
> >
> >
> > Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
> > reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet
from
> > J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom
cut
> > for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the
floor to
> > rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
> >
> > I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ
from
> > J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
> > vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
> > takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a
year
> > on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint,
dry
> > it, and hope for another rust-free year.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
>

me

Ah yes, that is the key phrase:'You would think'

Valued User wrote:

> if somethign is galvanized then it shouldnt' rust.
>
> doesn't the jeep come with 7/70 rust warranty? you'd think they probably do
> a good job of rustproffing knowing that many folks take them into wet
> areas...
>
>
> "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:iKTAb.4783$W02.1100669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
>
>>Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
>>put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
>>>news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>---snippers---
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>>>idea what the salt does.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you
>
> are
>
>>>****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding.
>
> I
>
>>>lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was
>
> a
>
>>>candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>>>
>>>
>>>Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
>>>reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet
>
> from
>
>>>J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom
>
> cut
>
>>>for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the
>
> floor to
>
>>>rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>>>
>>>I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ
>
> from
>
>>>J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
>>>vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
>>>takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a
>
> year
>
>>>on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint,
>
> dry
>
>>>it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

me

Ah yes, that is the key phrase:'You would think'

Valued User wrote:

> if somethign is galvanized then it shouldnt' rust.
>
> doesn't the jeep come with 7/70 rust warranty? you'd think they probably do
> a good job of rustproffing knowing that many folks take them into wet
> areas...
>
>
> "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:iKTAb.4783$W02.1100669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
>
>>Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
>>put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
>>>news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>---snippers---
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>>>idea what the salt does.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you
>
> are
>
>>>****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding.
>
> I
>
>>>lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was
>
> a
>
>>>candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>>>
>>>
>>>Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
>>>reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet
>
> from
>
>>>J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom
>
> cut
>
>>>for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the
>
> floor to
>
>>>rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>>>
>>>I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ
>
> from
>
>>>J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
>>>vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
>>>takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a
>
> year
>
>>>on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint,
>
> dry
>
>>>it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

me

Ah yes, that is the key phrase:'You would think'

Valued User wrote:

> if somethign is galvanized then it shouldnt' rust.
>
> doesn't the jeep come with 7/70 rust warranty? you'd think they probably do
> a good job of rustproffing knowing that many folks take them into wet
> areas...
>
>
> "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:iKTAb.4783$W02.1100669@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.ne t...
>
>>Thanks for the info. Wow, I thought the purpose to having undercoating
>>put on was to prevent rust, not induce it. So it's just a scam anyway!
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
>>>news:vt7msjq7j66sf8@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>---snippers---
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you lived outside of the snowbelt, I would suggest taking a bye
>>>>on the undercoating. It isn't needed. Having said that, I have no
>>>>idea what the salt does.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It gets between the undercoating and the floor eventually, and then you
>
> are
>
>>>****ed. You'd better get all that stuff off before you start welding.
>
> I
>
>>>lived in the rust belt when every ten year old car with undercoating was
>
> a
>
>>>candidate for a new floor. That is how I know this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>>>carpeting) that helps to insulate against road noise??
>>>
>>>
>>>Undercoating is the best thing for road noise. Imho, that is the only
>>>reason to use it. You can also get jute padding to go under the carpet
>
> from
>
>>>J. C. Whitney and other places. I believe that Whitney has it custom
>
> cut
>
>>>for the Wrangler. It is great for soaking up water and causing the
>
> floor to
>
>>>rust from the inside. I am cheerful today aren't I?
>>>
>>>I have a one-eighth inch thick form fitted vinyl floor liner in my YJ
>
> from
>
>>>J. C. Whitney, with no padding under it. This is some tough stuff. The
>>>vehicle came from the factory with galvanizing and undercoating, so that
>>>takes care of the road noise and (I hope) corrosion protection. Once a
>
> year
>
>>>on a sunny day I take the liner out, wash the tub, touch up the paint,
>
> dry
>
>>>it, and hope for another rust-free year.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>