Just a heads up for you, you are posting in HTML that a lot of folks on
this group can't read. Lots of folks are on mainframes or on other than
microcrap systems and can only read text. You could be missing a lot of
opinions...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> me wrote:
>
> No Sentry key. I almost ordered it, then I realized what a headache
> that may cause for the remote start. My current alarm has a zone
> sensor. If you get too close the first zone chirps you a warning. If
> you get in the Jeep (like when you have the doors off) the second zone
> trips the alarm. It's a really nice setup, I just wish I could get my
> hands on that harness for the starter so I don't have to go cutting
> ignition wires again. Although, having done it once already I would
> have a model to look at while I do the new one. ;-)
>
> Valued User wrote:
>
> > Will your Rubi have a Sentry key engine immobilizer? If so then I've
> > read
> > that you may have to make your alarm play with it in order to make
> > it work.
> >
> > Let me know what you find - I'm definately interested in putting an
> > alarm
> > with a proximity sensor in my new TJ (will be ordered on Monday).
> >
> > "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:jDNAb.25072$dr1.4147341@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
> >
> >
> >> Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I
> >> want to
> >> do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than
> >> that.
> >> But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
> >>
> >> First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to
> >> take it
> >> somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific
> >> company
> >> (like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
> >>
> >> Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> >> carpeting)
> >> that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me,
> >> but the
> >> wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble
> >> sleeping
> >> with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
> >> before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do
> >> some
> >> noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
> >>
> >> Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a
> >> remote
> >> start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug
> >> and
> >> play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
> >> starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had
> >> stopped
> >> carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So,
> >> I was
> >> forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to
> >> splice
> >> away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
> >> Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
> >> recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug
> >> and
> >> play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if
> >> it's
> >> not absolutely necessary.
> >>
> >> That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

Just a heads up for you, you are posting in HTML that a lot of folks on
this group can't read. Lots of folks are on mainframes or on other than
microcrap systems and can only read text. You could be missing a lot of
opinions...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> me wrote:
>
> No Sentry key. I almost ordered it, then I realized what a headache
> that may cause for the remote start. My current alarm has a zone
> sensor. If you get too close the first zone chirps you a warning. If
> you get in the Jeep (like when you have the doors off) the second zone
> trips the alarm. It's a really nice setup, I just wish I could get my
> hands on that harness for the starter so I don't have to go cutting
> ignition wires again. Although, having done it once already I would
> have a model to look at while I do the new one. ;-)
>
> Valued User wrote:
>
> > Will your Rubi have a Sentry key engine immobilizer? If so then I've
> > read
> > that you may have to make your alarm play with it in order to make
> > it work.
> >
> > Let me know what you find - I'm definately interested in putting an
> > alarm
> > with a proximity sensor in my new TJ (will be ordered on Monday).
> >
> > "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:jDNAb.25072$dr1.4147341@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
> >
> >
> >> Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I
> >> want to
> >> do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than
> >> that.
> >> But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
> >>
> >> First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to
> >> take it
> >> somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific
> >> company
> >> (like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
> >>
> >> Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> >> carpeting)
> >> that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me,
> >> but the
> >> wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble
> >> sleeping
> >> with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
> >> before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do
> >> some
> >> noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
> >>
> >> Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a
> >> remote
> >> start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug
> >> and
> >> play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
> >> starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had
> >> stopped
> >> carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So,
> >> I was
> >> forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to
> >> splice
> >> away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
> >> Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
> >> recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug
> >> and
> >> play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if
> >> it's
> >> not absolutely necessary.
> >>
> >> That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

Just a heads up for you, you are posting in HTML that a lot of folks on
this group can't read. Lots of folks are on mainframes or on other than
microcrap systems and can only read text. You could be missing a lot of
opinions...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> me wrote:
>
> No Sentry key. I almost ordered it, then I realized what a headache
> that may cause for the remote start. My current alarm has a zone
> sensor. If you get too close the first zone chirps you a warning. If
> you get in the Jeep (like when you have the doors off) the second zone
> trips the alarm. It's a really nice setup, I just wish I could get my
> hands on that harness for the starter so I don't have to go cutting
> ignition wires again. Although, having done it once already I would
> have a model to look at while I do the new one. ;-)
>
> Valued User wrote:
>
> > Will your Rubi have a Sentry key engine immobilizer? If so then I've
> > read
> > that you may have to make your alarm play with it in order to make
> > it work.
> >
> > Let me know what you find - I'm definately interested in putting an
> > alarm
> > with a proximity sensor in my new TJ (will be ordered on Monday).
> >
> > "me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:jDNAb.25072$dr1.4147341@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et...
> >
> >
> >> Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I
> >> want to
> >> do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than
> >> that.
> >> But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
> >>
> >> First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to
> >> take it
> >> somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific
> >> company
> >> (like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
> >>
> >> Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
> >> carpeting)
> >> that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me,
> >> but the
> >> wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble
> >> sleeping
> >> with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
> >> before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do
> >> some
> >> noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
> >>
> >> Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a
> >> remote
> >> start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug
> >> and
> >> play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
> >> starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had
> >> stopped
> >> carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So,
> >> I was
> >> forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to
> >> splice
> >> away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
> >> Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
> >> recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug
> >> and
> >> play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if
> >> it's
> >> not absolutely necessary.
> >>
> >> That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

I know, I know. :-D I really don't know about the undercoating. I
live in Jersey and they salt the roads pretty heavily in the snow, so I
don't know if the undercoating really has any protective value or if
it's just a big scam. The interior coating, I'm just asking so I can
tell the wife I asked. I personally don't care, after all it is a
Jeep! As for the alarm, absolutely! That will go in almost as fast as
the Tuffy console and glove box. People suck in this craphole of a
state, and most of them will steal from their own mothers. I know an
alarm won't stop a determined professional thief, but I am going to make
it as hard as I can for him to steal my new baby.

David C. Moller wrote:

>Under coating, interior coating, and an alarm system? Yer kidding,
>right? :)
>
>Dave
>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:14:39 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
>>do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
>>But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
>>
>>First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
>>somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
>>(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
>>
>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
>>that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
>>wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
>>with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
>>before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
>>noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
>>
>>Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
>>start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
>>play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
>>starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
>>carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
>>forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
>>away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
>>Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
>>recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
>>play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
>>not absolutely necessary.
>>
>>That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

I know, I know. :-D I really don't know about the undercoating. I
live in Jersey and they salt the roads pretty heavily in the snow, so I
don't know if the undercoating really has any protective value or if
it's just a big scam. The interior coating, I'm just asking so I can
tell the wife I asked. I personally don't care, after all it is a
Jeep! As for the alarm, absolutely! That will go in almost as fast as
the Tuffy console and glove box. People suck in this craphole of a
state, and most of them will steal from their own mothers. I know an
alarm won't stop a determined professional thief, but I am going to make
it as hard as I can for him to steal my new baby.

David C. Moller wrote:

>Under coating, interior coating, and an alarm system? Yer kidding,
>right? :)
>
>Dave
>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:14:39 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
>>do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
>>But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
>>
>>First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
>>somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
>>(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
>>
>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
>>that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
>>wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
>>with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
>>before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
>>noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
>>
>>Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
>>start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
>>play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
>>starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
>>carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
>>forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
>>away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
>>Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
>>recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
>>play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
>>not absolutely necessary.
>>
>>That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

I know, I know. :-D I really don't know about the undercoating. I
live in Jersey and they salt the roads pretty heavily in the snow, so I
don't know if the undercoating really has any protective value or if
it's just a big scam. The interior coating, I'm just asking so I can
tell the wife I asked. I personally don't care, after all it is a
Jeep! As for the alarm, absolutely! That will go in almost as fast as
the Tuffy console and glove box. People suck in this craphole of a
state, and most of them will steal from their own mothers. I know an
alarm won't stop a determined professional thief, but I am going to make
it as hard as I can for him to steal my new baby.

David C. Moller wrote:

>Under coating, interior coating, and an alarm system? Yer kidding,
>right? :)
>
>Dave
>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
>On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:14:39 GMT, me <noone@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I want to
>>do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than that.
>>But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
>>
>>First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to take it
>>somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific company
>>(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
>>
>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the carpeting)
>>that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me, but the
>>wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble sleeping
>>with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
>>before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do some
>>noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
>>
>>Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a remote
>>start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug and
>>play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
>>starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had stopped
>>carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So, I was
>>forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to splice
>>away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
>>Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
>>recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug and
>>play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if it's
>>not absolutely necessary.
>>
>>That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:

> I know, I know. :-D

Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
in the same place....

 

Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:

> I know, I know. :-D

Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
in the same place....

 

Roughly 12/7/03 17:07, me's monkeys randomly typed:

> I know, I know. :-D

Well, in that case, perhaps you'd consider learning how to
use a computer and knock off the HTML. And stick the smileys
in the same place....

 

I thought I was posting in both, or at least that's what my newsreader
says. Thanks Mike!

Mike Romain wrote:

>Just a heads up for you, you are posting in HTML that a lot of folks on
>this group can't read. Lots of folks are on mainframes or on other than
>microcrap systems and can only read text. You could be missing a lot of
>opinions...
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
>
>>me wrote:
>>
>>No Sentry key. I almost ordered it, then I realized what a headache
>>that may cause for the remote start. My current alarm has a zone
>>sensor. If you get too close the first zone chirps you a warning. If
>>you get in the Jeep (like when you have the doors off) the second zone
>>trips the alarm. It's a really nice setup, I just wish I could get my
>>hands on that harness for the starter so I don't have to go cutting
>>ignition wires again. Although, having done it once already I would
>>have a model to look at while I do the new one. ;-)
>>
>>Valued User wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Will your Rubi have a Sentry key engine immobilizer? If so then I've
>>>read
>>>that you may have to make your alarm play with it in order to make
>>>it work.
>>>
>>>Let me know what you find - I'm definately interested in putting an
>>>alarm
>>>with a proximity sensor in my new TJ (will be ordered on Monday).
>>>
>>>"me" <noone@anywhere.com> wrote in message
>>>news:jDNAb.25072$dr1.4147341@news4.srv.hcvlny.c v.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Having owned a TJ for 6 yrs now, I know there are some things I
>>>>want to
>>>>do right away, and other things I want to do even sooner than
>>>>that.
>>>>But, there are some things that I am not sure about.
>>>>
>>>>First off, I should be picking it up on Tuesday. Do I want to
>>>>take it
>>>>somewhere to have it undercoated?? If so, is there a specific
>>>>company
>>>>(like Ziebart) in the NJ area that I would be best using?
>>>>
>>>>Second, is there some type of interior coating (under the
>>>>carpeting)
>>>>that helps to insulate against road noise?? Not so much for me,
>>>>but the
>>>>wife. We drive everywhere for vacation and she has trouble
>>>>sleeping
>>>>with all the road noise from the MT/Rs on my Sport. So, I figured
>>>>before I start running CB cables and such it might be best to do
>>>>some
>>>>noise damping first, if such a thing exists.
>>>>
>>>>Third, alarm systems. I have one in my Sport now, even has a
>>>>remote
>>>>start module. I got the alarm from Crutchfield with the nice plug
>>>>and
>>>>play harness. But when I called Crutchfield regarding the remote
>>>>starter (3 years after the initial alarm install), they had
>>>>stopped
>>>>carrying it because so many people had trouble installing it. So,
>>>>I was
>>>>forced to order one from my local stereo shop, and then left to
>>>>splice
>>>>away since they didn't offer the nice plug and play harness like
>>>>Crutchfield used to. I guess my question is does anyone have a
>>>>recommendation for an alarm with a remote start that offers a plug
>>>>and
>>>>play harness?. I hate cutting into the ignition wires and such if
>>>>it's
>>>>not absolutely necessary.
>>>>
>>>>That's all for now, though I am sure there will be more real soon!
>>>>
>>>>TIA,
>>>>
>>>>Jay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>