Fire Damage Wiring Repair
12-07-2005, 09:37 AM
#21
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
they just blow.
You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
melted into something else.
Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
bead on it.
I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
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"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
they just blow.
You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
melted into something else.
Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
bead on it.
I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 09:37 AM
#22
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
they just blow.
You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
melted into something else.
Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
bead on it.
I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
they just blow.
You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
melted into something else.
Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
bead on it.
I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 10:47 AM
#23
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Before digging into the wiring harness, I suggest double-checking to make
sure that all the wires on the switch are hooked up right. I am thinking
that two wires interchanged by accident could produce similar symptoms.
This job has to be a nightmare. Not too many amateur mechanics would have
gotten this far.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4396F3BA.8CD32905@sympatico.ca...
> They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
> they just blow.
>
> You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
> big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
> melted into something else.
>
> Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
>
> Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
> meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
> you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
> panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
> bead on it.
>
> I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
> corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
> the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
> inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
> >
> > I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> > links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> > the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> > "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> > activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
> >
> > Randall Brink
sure that all the wires on the switch are hooked up right. I am thinking
that two wires interchanged by accident could produce similar symptoms.
This job has to be a nightmare. Not too many amateur mechanics would have
gotten this far.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4396F3BA.8CD32905@sympatico.ca...
> They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
> they just blow.
>
> You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
> big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
> melted into something else.
>
> Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
>
> Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
> meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
> you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
> panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
> bead on it.
>
> I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
> corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
> the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
> inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
> >
> > I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> > links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> > the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> > "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> > activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
> >
> > Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 10:47 AM
#24
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Before digging into the wiring harness, I suggest double-checking to make
sure that all the wires on the switch are hooked up right. I am thinking
that two wires interchanged by accident could produce similar symptoms.
This job has to be a nightmare. Not too many amateur mechanics would have
gotten this far.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4396F3BA.8CD32905@sympatico.ca...
> They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
> they just blow.
>
> You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
> big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
> melted into something else.
>
> Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
>
> Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
> meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
> you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
> panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
> bead on it.
>
> I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
> corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
> the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
> inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
> >
> > I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> > links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> > the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> > "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> > activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
> >
> > Randall Brink
sure that all the wires on the switch are hooked up right. I am thinking
that two wires interchanged by accident could produce similar symptoms.
This job has to be a nightmare. Not too many amateur mechanics would have
gotten this far.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4396F3BA.8CD32905@sympatico.ca...
> They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
> they just blow.
>
> You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
> big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
> melted into something else.
>
> Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
>
> Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
> meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
> you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
> panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
> bead on it.
>
> I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
> corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
> the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
> inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
> >
> > I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> > links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> > the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> > "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> > activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
> >
> > Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 10:47 AM
#25
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Before digging into the wiring harness, I suggest double-checking to make
sure that all the wires on the switch are hooked up right. I am thinking
that two wires interchanged by accident could produce similar symptoms.
This job has to be a nightmare. Not too many amateur mechanics would have
gotten this far.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4396F3BA.8CD32905@sympatico.ca...
> They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
> they just blow.
>
> You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
> big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
> melted into something else.
>
> Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
>
> Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
> meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
> you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
> panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
> bead on it.
>
> I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
> corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
> the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
> inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
> >
> > I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> > links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> > the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> > "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> > activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
> >
> > Randall Brink
sure that all the wires on the switch are hooked up right. I am thinking
that two wires interchanged by accident could produce similar symptoms.
This job has to be a nightmare. Not too many amateur mechanics would have
gotten this far.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4396F3BA.8CD32905@sympatico.ca...
> They won't be the location of the short. When these fuse links mess up,
> they just blow.
>
> You really sound like you have a short inside the wiring harness. That
> big headlight wire that melted down the light switch has very likely
> melted into something else.
>
> Well, not 'likely' pretty much for sure by the sound of your symptoms.
>
> Just so you know, the wiring harness comes apart into modules that all
> meet at the fuse panel. If you go on the engine side of the fuse panel,
> you will find one bolt in the center of it. This bolt will force the
> panel to come apart into it's components so you can maybe get a better
> bead on it.
>
> I foresee a lot of cutting of harness covering. You can get the split
> corrugated tube loom to put the wires back into once you have opened up
> the harness. You can even tuck it into the loom as you cut it open and
> inspect it so you don't have a total rats nest.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
> >
> > I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> > links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> > the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> > "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> > activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
> >
> > Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 11:07 AM
#26
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Oh, what fuse are you blowing?
The headlights are not fused...
Mike
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
The headlights are not fused...
Mike
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 11:07 AM
#27
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Oh, what fuse are you blowing?
The headlights are not fused...
Mike
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
The headlights are not fused...
Mike
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 11:07 AM
#28
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Oh, what fuse are you blowing?
The headlights are not fused...
Mike
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
The headlights are not fused...
Mike
"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> Yes, Grand Wagoneer.
>
> I will start in first thing in the morning to locate these "fusible
> links" as the manual calls them. I suspect a fault in one, which causes
> the instrument lights to illuminate any time the ignition switch is
> "on". I am also blowing a fuse every time the dimmer switch is
> activated or the lights are on "Low" Beam.
>
> Randall Brink
12-07-2005, 11:19 AM
#29
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Earle:
I am fairly certain about the fuse--it is a 20 amp, as are most of the
fuses in that panel, and I believe it is marked "20".
I do not believe that the dash lights dim properly, I think they remain
on one constant brightness level. I will check this when I get the Jeep
into the shop this afternoon. This dash light thing is very weird to
me, and I am having trouble figuring that out.
I am fairly certain about the fuse--it is a 20 amp, as are most of the
fuses in that panel, and I believe it is marked "20".
I do not believe that the dash lights dim properly, I think they remain
on one constant brightness level. I will check this when I get the Jeep
into the shop this afternoon. This dash light thing is very weird to
me, and I am having trouble figuring that out.
12-07-2005, 11:19 AM
#30
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Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
Earle:
I am fairly certain about the fuse--it is a 20 amp, as are most of the
fuses in that panel, and I believe it is marked "20".
I do not believe that the dash lights dim properly, I think they remain
on one constant brightness level. I will check this when I get the Jeep
into the shop this afternoon. This dash light thing is very weird to
me, and I am having trouble figuring that out.
I am fairly certain about the fuse--it is a 20 amp, as are most of the
fuses in that panel, and I believe it is marked "20".
I do not believe that the dash lights dim properly, I think they remain
on one constant brightness level. I will check this when I get the Jeep
into the shop this afternoon. This dash light thing is very weird to
me, and I am having trouble figuring that out.