Finally fixing it
#101
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Re: Finally fixing it
They tighten down in inch pounds...
I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
on and it doesn't leak....
I was really careful about cleaning.
I have done others that don't leak too.
Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
> > on the PCV line.
> >
> > For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
> > collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
> >
> > Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> > solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >
> > From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> > canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> > changes, the canister is shot.
> >
> > This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
> >
> > The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
> > uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
> >>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
> >>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
> >>know that isn't the issue.
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
> >>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
> >>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
> >>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
> >>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
> >>>
I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
on and it doesn't leak....
I was really careful about cleaning.
I have done others that don't leak too.
Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
> > on the PCV line.
> >
> > For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
> > collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
> >
> > Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> > solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >
> > From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> > canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> > changes, the canister is shot.
> >
> > This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
> >
> > The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
> > uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
> >>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
> >>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
> >>know that isn't the issue.
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
> >>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
> >>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
> >>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
> >>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
> >>>
#102
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Re: Finally fixing it
Can anyone tell me where the other end of this hose goes? I can't find
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
#103
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Re: Finally fixing it
Can anyone tell me where the other end of this hose goes? I can't find
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
#104
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
Can anyone tell me where the other end of this hose goes? I can't find
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
#105
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
Can anyone tell me where the other end of this hose goes? I can't find
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
an available nipple anywhere...
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
correct size).
ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
Jim85CJ wrote:
> Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>> on the PCV line.
>>
>> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>
>> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>> changes, the canister is shot.
>>
>> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>
>> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>> know that isn't the issue.
>>>
>>> Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>
>
#106
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
no rocker bridges (unfortunately)... thanks for the link, i'll check it
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
#107
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
no rocker bridges (unfortunately)... thanks for the link, i'll check it
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
#108
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
no rocker bridges (unfortunately)... thanks for the link, i'll check it
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
#109
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
no rocker bridges (unfortunately)... thanks for the link, i'll check it
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
out... looks like a no-go for nutter since it is illegal.
Mike Romain wrote:
> They tighten down in inch pounds...
>
> I just have the two top center nuts on the rocker bridges holding mine
> on and it doesn't leak....
>
> I was really careful about cleaning.
>
> I have done others that don't leak too.
>
> Here is a good link on vacuum crap:
>
> http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/list.htm
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
>>nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
>>I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
>>that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
>>underneath them when tightened (even a little).
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
>>>on the PCV line.
>>>
>>>For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
>>>collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
>>>
>>>Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>>
>>>From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>>changes, the canister is shot.
>>>
>>>This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
>>>
>>>The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
>>>uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
>>>>filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
>>>>check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
>>>>know that isn't the issue.
>>>>
>>>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
>>>>>258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
>>>>>sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
>>>>>use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
>>>>>type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
>>>>>
#110
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Finally fixing it
My PC isn't getting through your link.
You have it as a FTP? what about www?
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me where the other end of this hose goes? I can't find
> an available nipple anywhere...
> ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
>
> Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
> correct size).
> ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> > nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> > I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> > that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> > underneath them when tightened (even a little).
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
> >> on the PCV line.
> >>
> >> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
> >> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
> >>
> >> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >> changes, the canister is shot.
> >>
> >> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
> >>
> >> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
> >> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
> >>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
> >>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
> >>> know that isn't the issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
> >>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
> >>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
> >>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
> >>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
> >>>>
> >
You have it as a FTP? what about www?
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me where the other end of this hose goes? I can't find
> an available nipple anywhere...
> ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose1.jpg
>
> Or what hose attaches to this nipple? I can't find a stray hose (of the
> correct size).
> ftp://stuff.dyndns.tv/pub/hose2.jpg
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > Where can I find a good diagram of the vacuum hoses? I have a hose with
> > nowhere to go and a nipple with no hose (different sizes). I also think
> > I'll be redoing this... The plastic cover sucks. One side has big nuts
> > that hold it down... unfortunately, the plastic lid posp out from
> > underneath them when tightened (even a little).
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> That usually is a charcoal canister failure or the valve behind the carb
> >> on the PCV line.
> >>
> >> For starters, check the PCV line carefully. It likes to get soft and
> >> collapse at the elbow beside the carb.
> >>
> >> Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >> changes, the canister is shot.
> >>
> >> This effectively shuts down the PCV system and oil will blow.
> >>
> >> The canister should only purge when the engine is hot and at speed. It
> >> uses a ported vacuum signal via the CTO valve.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've noticed in the past that I get a lot of oil blown into the air
> >>> filter. Now that I have the valve cover off, is there anything I can
> >>> check for that may be causing this? The PCV valve is brand new so I
> >>> know that isn't the issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm finally going to attempt to fix my leaky valve cover on my 85 CJ7
> >>>> 258. From what I've gathered here I should get a new cork gasket and
> >>>> sandwich it between layers of RTV. Couple of questions: What should I
> >>>> use to clean the surfaces that will get the RTV? Is there any brand or
> >>>> type of RTV that is best for this or is it all the same?
> >>>>
> >