XS11E

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:

> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> monoxide.

Cab? What cab?

XS11E

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:

> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> monoxide.

Cab? What cab?

XS11E

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:

> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> monoxide.

Cab? What cab?

Bret Ludwig

XS11E wrote:
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>
> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> > the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> > the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> > monoxide.


Diesel engines produce virtually no lethal carbon monoxide. They DO
produce soot, aldehydes and other very nasty smelling stuff, depending
on fuel and conditions. So if it was a problem, they would change it
promptly because the vehicle would be very, very, very unpleasant to
drive (at least).

I have seen a lot of Jeeps with this exhaust arrangement. I don't like
it either, but considering that most of them have carbureted gasoline
engines and a lot have no cat cons, if it were backgassing badly you
would see Jeepers dropping dead of CO poisioning left and right. That's
why city pound trucks were always spec'd with big gas engines-they
would have a fitting like a vacuum cleaner put on the tailpipe and a
bleed bypass valve on the intake, like Dave Blanton had on his
Ford-powered Cessna, so they could tweak the mixture (with a Heathkit
gas analyzer, I know because that's where I bought mine) for max CO to
hook up to the euth box. They declared CO gassing inhumane and they had
to saw the fitting off the exhaust pipe.

There is no laminar flow around a Jeep, any Jeep, anywhere-so at any
speed gases go everywhere.

Bret Ludwig

XS11E wrote:
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>
> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> > the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> > the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> > monoxide.


Diesel engines produce virtually no lethal carbon monoxide. They DO
produce soot, aldehydes and other very nasty smelling stuff, depending
on fuel and conditions. So if it was a problem, they would change it
promptly because the vehicle would be very, very, very unpleasant to
drive (at least).

I have seen a lot of Jeeps with this exhaust arrangement. I don't like
it either, but considering that most of them have carbureted gasoline
engines and a lot have no cat cons, if it were backgassing badly you
would see Jeepers dropping dead of CO poisioning left and right. That's
why city pound trucks were always spec'd with big gas engines-they
would have a fitting like a vacuum cleaner put on the tailpipe and a
bleed bypass valve on the intake, like Dave Blanton had on his
Ford-powered Cessna, so they could tweak the mixture (with a Heathkit
gas analyzer, I know because that's where I bought mine) for max CO to
hook up to the euth box. They declared CO gassing inhumane and they had
to saw the fitting off the exhaust pipe.

There is no laminar flow around a Jeep, any Jeep, anywhere-so at any
speed gases go everywhere.

Bret Ludwig

XS11E wrote:
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>
> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> > the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> > the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> > monoxide.


Diesel engines produce virtually no lethal carbon monoxide. They DO
produce soot, aldehydes and other very nasty smelling stuff, depending
on fuel and conditions. So if it was a problem, they would change it
promptly because the vehicle would be very, very, very unpleasant to
drive (at least).

I have seen a lot of Jeeps with this exhaust arrangement. I don't like
it either, but considering that most of them have carbureted gasoline
engines and a lot have no cat cons, if it were backgassing badly you
would see Jeepers dropping dead of CO poisioning left and right. That's
why city pound trucks were always spec'd with big gas engines-they
would have a fitting like a vacuum cleaner put on the tailpipe and a
bleed bypass valve on the intake, like Dave Blanton had on his
Ford-powered Cessna, so they could tweak the mixture (with a Heathkit
gas analyzer, I know because that's where I bought mine) for max CO to
hook up to the euth box. They declared CO gassing inhumane and they had
to saw the fitting off the exhaust pipe.

There is no laminar flow around a Jeep, any Jeep, anywhere-so at any
speed gases go everywhere.

Mike Romain

XS11E wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>
> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> > the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> > the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> > monoxide.
>
> Cab? What cab?

The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the air
flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the back of the
head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of your head and the
windshield need an inside wiper.

Or maybe you don't know....

I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and doesn't
mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way, he might live
through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....

If he just wants to have it sit in the driveway and look pretty, well he
has done a nice job then eh. Otherwise it is a piece of crap.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

XS11E wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>
> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> > the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> > the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> > monoxide.
>
> Cab? What cab?

The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the air
flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the back of the
head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of your head and the
windshield need an inside wiper.

Or maybe you don't know....

I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and doesn't
mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way, he might live
through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....

If he just wants to have it sit in the driveway and look pretty, well he
has done a nice job then eh. Otherwise it is a piece of crap.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

XS11E wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>
> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of
> > the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex
> > the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon
> > monoxide.
>
> Cab? What cab?

The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the air
flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the back of the
head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of your head and the
windshield need an inside wiper.

Or maybe you don't know....

I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and doesn't
mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way, he might live
through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....

If he just wants to have it sit in the driveway and look pretty, well he
has done a nice job then eh. Otherwise it is a piece of crap.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

XS11E

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148515027.940308.146770@j55g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> XS11E wrote:
>> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
>> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
>>
>> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front
>> > of the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will
>> > vortex the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with
>> > carbon monoxide.
>
>
> Diesel engines produce virtually no lethal carbon monoxide. They
> DO produce soot, aldehydes and other very nasty smelling stuff,
> depending on fuel and conditions. So if it was a problem, they
> would change it promptly because the vehicle would be very, very,
> very unpleasant to drive (at least).

You should probably reply to the person who wrote the above rather
than me.