An excellent Jeep
05-24-2006, 08:34 PM
#31
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Re: An excellent Jeep
XS11E wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474F3AF.75B9EE1B@sympatico.ca:
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> > XS11E wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> >> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
> >>
> >> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front
> >> > of the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will
> >> > vortex the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with
> >> > carbon monoxide.
> >>
> >> Cab? What cab?
> >
> > The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the
> > air flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the
> > back of the head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of
> > your head and the windshield need an inside wiper.
> >
> > Or maybe you don't know....
> >
> > I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and
> > doesn't mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way,
> > he might live through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....
>
> Top? Doors? What top? What doors? OBTW, it's a diesel.
I guess you don't know then..... Too bad it's trip to drive topless and
doorless.
If you take the top and doors off a Jeep and drive in the rain, the air
comes in from the rear in a vortex and soaks the back of your head and
covers the inside of the windshield with water.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:4474F3AF.75B9EE1B@sympatico.ca:
>
> > XS11E wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> >> news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca:
> >>
> >> > The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front
> >> > of the back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will
> >> > vortex the exhaust under the vehicle and fill the cab with
> >> > carbon monoxide.
> >>
> >> Cab? What cab?
> >
> > The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the
> > air flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the
> > back of the head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of
> > your head and the windshield need an inside wiper.
> >
> > Or maybe you don't know....
> >
> > I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and
> > doesn't mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way,
> > he might live through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....
>
> Top? Doors? What top? What doors? OBTW, it's a diesel.
I guess you don't know then..... Too bad it's trip to drive topless and
doorless.
If you take the top and doors off a Jeep and drive in the rain, the air
comes in from the rear in a vortex and soaks the back of your head and
covers the inside of the windshield with water.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
05-24-2006, 09:11 PM
#32
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Re: An excellent Jeep
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:4474FBA2.B991460F@sympatico.ca:
> I guess you don't know then.....
I do know. I think you've missed the entire point of my post in
addition to twice replying to the wrong person in your previous post.
It's pretty confusing??? ;-)
Anyway, the important point is that the Suns have defeated the Lakers
and Clippers and now will play the Mavericks for the Western Conference
Title, SO THERE!
news:4474FBA2.B991460F@sympatico.ca:
> I guess you don't know then.....
I do know. I think you've missed the entire point of my post in
addition to twice replying to the wrong person in your previous post.
It's pretty confusing??? ;-)
Anyway, the important point is that the Suns have defeated the Lakers
and Clippers and now will play the Mavericks for the Western Conference
Title, SO THERE!
05-24-2006, 09:11 PM
#33
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Re: An excellent Jeep
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:4474FBA2.B991460F@sympatico.ca:
> I guess you don't know then.....
I do know. I think you've missed the entire point of my post in
addition to twice replying to the wrong person in your previous post.
It's pretty confusing??? ;-)
Anyway, the important point is that the Suns have defeated the Lakers
and Clippers and now will play the Mavericks for the Western Conference
Title, SO THERE!
news:4474FBA2.B991460F@sympatico.ca:
> I guess you don't know then.....
I do know. I think you've missed the entire point of my post in
addition to twice replying to the wrong person in your previous post.
It's pretty confusing??? ;-)
Anyway, the important point is that the Suns have defeated the Lakers
and Clippers and now will play the Mavericks for the Western Conference
Title, SO THERE!
05-24-2006, 09:11 PM
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Re: An excellent Jeep
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:4474FBA2.B991460F@sympatico.ca:
> I guess you don't know then.....
I do know. I think you've missed the entire point of my post in
addition to twice replying to the wrong person in your previous post.
It's pretty confusing??? ;-)
Anyway, the important point is that the Suns have defeated the Lakers
and Clippers and now will play the Mavericks for the Western Conference
Title, SO THERE!
news:4474FBA2.B991460F@sympatico.ca:
> I guess you don't know then.....
I do know. I think you've missed the entire point of my post in
addition to twice replying to the wrong person in your previous post.
It's pretty confusing??? ;-)
Anyway, the important point is that the Suns have defeated the Lakers
and Clippers and now will play the Mavericks for the Western Conference
Title, SO THERE!
05-24-2006, 10:21 PM
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Re: An excellent Jeep
Mike Romain wrote:
> > >> Cab? What cab?
> > >
> > > The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the
> > > air flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the
> > > back of the head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of
> > > your head and the windshield need an inside wiper.
> > >
> > > Or maybe you don't know....
> > >
> > > I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and
> > > doesn't mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way,
> > > he might live through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....
Apparently he has driven it extensively and it hasn't been a problem
for him or he would fix it. It's not as though it would be a terribly
difficult or expensive thing to run a exhaust pipe to the back.
To answer your later question, a diesel generates carbon monoxide only
under a very narrow band of conditions. Since the intake is
unthrottled, diesels always have excess air (if they don't they are
really, really smoking). If CO were the only problem diesels could be
operated safely inside enclosed areas-and indeed, in mines, they are,
albeit mine certified versions with mine diesel fuel and catalytic
converters. Gasoline engines on the other hand generate CO at all power
settings but especially at idle. Even LPG and CNG engines generate CO
unless they are carefully set up not to do so. Only engines burning
non-carbon fuels like hydrogen or ammonia are intrinsically non-carbon
monoxide generators.
If this exhaust were a killer it would be hundreds or thousands of
times more dangerous with a gas engine.
To sum up, I don't care for this arrangement but apparently it's not a
problem because it would be easily fixed if it were.
> >
> > Top? Doors? What top? What doors? OBTW, it's a diesel.
>
> I guess you don't know then..... Too bad it's trip to drive topless and
> doorless.
>
> If you take the top and doors off a Jeep and drive in the rain, the air
> comes in from the rear in a vortex and soaks the back of your head and
> covers the inside of the windshield with water.
>
That's why the windscreen folds down.
05-24-2006, 10:21 PM
#36
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Re: An excellent Jeep
Mike Romain wrote:
> > >> Cab? What cab?
> > >
> > > The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the
> > > air flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the
> > > back of the head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of
> > > your head and the windshield need an inside wiper.
> > >
> > > Or maybe you don't know....
> > >
> > > I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and
> > > doesn't mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way,
> > > he might live through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....
Apparently he has driven it extensively and it hasn't been a problem
for him or he would fix it. It's not as though it would be a terribly
difficult or expensive thing to run a exhaust pipe to the back.
To answer your later question, a diesel generates carbon monoxide only
under a very narrow band of conditions. Since the intake is
unthrottled, diesels always have excess air (if they don't they are
really, really smoking). If CO were the only problem diesels could be
operated safely inside enclosed areas-and indeed, in mines, they are,
albeit mine certified versions with mine diesel fuel and catalytic
converters. Gasoline engines on the other hand generate CO at all power
settings but especially at idle. Even LPG and CNG engines generate CO
unless they are carefully set up not to do so. Only engines burning
non-carbon fuels like hydrogen or ammonia are intrinsically non-carbon
monoxide generators.
If this exhaust were a killer it would be hundreds or thousands of
times more dangerous with a gas engine.
To sum up, I don't care for this arrangement but apparently it's not a
problem because it would be easily fixed if it were.
> >
> > Top? Doors? What top? What doors? OBTW, it's a diesel.
>
> I guess you don't know then..... Too bad it's trip to drive topless and
> doorless.
>
> If you take the top and doors off a Jeep and drive in the rain, the air
> comes in from the rear in a vortex and soaks the back of your head and
> covers the inside of the windshield with water.
>
That's why the windscreen folds down.
05-24-2006, 10:21 PM
#37
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Re: An excellent Jeep
Mike Romain wrote:
> > >> Cab? What cab?
> > >
> > > The part behind the windshield with the two seats in it where the
> > > air flow comes in in a vortex from the rear and hits you in the
> > > back of the head part. You know, where the rain soaks the back of
> > > your head and the windshield need an inside wiper.
> > >
> > > Or maybe you don't know....
> > >
> > > I mean I guess if he always leaves the top and doors off and
> > > doesn't mind stinging eyes And the wind is blowing the right way,
> > > he might live through a trip in it..... CO is bad ----....
Apparently he has driven it extensively and it hasn't been a problem
for him or he would fix it. It's not as though it would be a terribly
difficult or expensive thing to run a exhaust pipe to the back.
To answer your later question, a diesel generates carbon monoxide only
under a very narrow band of conditions. Since the intake is
unthrottled, diesels always have excess air (if they don't they are
really, really smoking). If CO were the only problem diesels could be
operated safely inside enclosed areas-and indeed, in mines, they are,
albeit mine certified versions with mine diesel fuel and catalytic
converters. Gasoline engines on the other hand generate CO at all power
settings but especially at idle. Even LPG and CNG engines generate CO
unless they are carefully set up not to do so. Only engines burning
non-carbon fuels like hydrogen or ammonia are intrinsically non-carbon
monoxide generators.
If this exhaust were a killer it would be hundreds or thousands of
times more dangerous with a gas engine.
To sum up, I don't care for this arrangement but apparently it's not a
problem because it would be easily fixed if it were.
> >
> > Top? Doors? What top? What doors? OBTW, it's a diesel.
>
> I guess you don't know then..... Too bad it's trip to drive topless and
> doorless.
>
> If you take the top and doors off a Jeep and drive in the rain, the air
> comes in from the rear in a vortex and soaks the back of your head and
> covers the inside of the windshield with water.
>
That's why the windscreen folds down.
05-24-2006, 10:51 PM
#38
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Re: An excellent Jeep
When I worked in the Dodge/International dealer back in 1978, there was a
customer who had a D100 with the Nissan (?) diesel, that he was inordinately
proud of. He had a chromed stack built, to exit high just behind the
driver's side door. The body was a fleetside (wide style pickup body) too.
That stack curved around the body, adding a good six inches to the vehicle
width. It was hot too, and there was no way a normal-thinking person would
avoid hitting it on exiting the cab. Good thing the guy in the bay next to
mine always seemed to get to work on it.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca...
> What a total piece of crap!
>
> The thing shouldn't be street legal, it is a death machine waiting to
> kill someone.
>
> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of the
> back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex the exhaust
> under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon monoxide.
>
> There 'is' a reason diesel trucks have tall stacks or monster
> tailpipes....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Jeeper who was thinking right:
> >
> > http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/XF9Sy8Cv
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
customer who had a D100 with the Nissan (?) diesel, that he was inordinately
proud of. He had a chromed stack built, to exit high just behind the
driver's side door. The body was a fleetside (wide style pickup body) too.
That stack curved around the body, adding a good six inches to the vehicle
width. It was hot too, and there was no way a normal-thinking person would
avoid hitting it on exiting the cab. Good thing the guy in the bay next to
mine always seemed to get to work on it.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca...
> What a total piece of crap!
>
> The thing shouldn't be street legal, it is a death machine waiting to
> kill someone.
>
> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of the
> back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex the exhaust
> under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon monoxide.
>
> There 'is' a reason diesel trucks have tall stacks or monster
> tailpipes....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Jeeper who was thinking right:
> >
> > http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/XF9Sy8Cv
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
05-24-2006, 10:51 PM
#39
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Re: An excellent Jeep
When I worked in the Dodge/International dealer back in 1978, there was a
customer who had a D100 with the Nissan (?) diesel, that he was inordinately
proud of. He had a chromed stack built, to exit high just behind the
driver's side door. The body was a fleetside (wide style pickup body) too.
That stack curved around the body, adding a good six inches to the vehicle
width. It was hot too, and there was no way a normal-thinking person would
avoid hitting it on exiting the cab. Good thing the guy in the bay next to
mine always seemed to get to work on it.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca...
> What a total piece of crap!
>
> The thing shouldn't be street legal, it is a death machine waiting to
> kill someone.
>
> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of the
> back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex the exhaust
> under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon monoxide.
>
> There 'is' a reason diesel trucks have tall stacks or monster
> tailpipes....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Jeeper who was thinking right:
> >
> > http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/XF9Sy8Cv
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
customer who had a D100 with the Nissan (?) diesel, that he was inordinately
proud of. He had a chromed stack built, to exit high just behind the
driver's side door. The body was a fleetside (wide style pickup body) too.
That stack curved around the body, adding a good six inches to the vehicle
width. It was hot too, and there was no way a normal-thinking person would
avoid hitting it on exiting the cab. Good thing the guy in the bay next to
mine always seemed to get to work on it.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca...
> What a total piece of crap!
>
> The thing shouldn't be street legal, it is a death machine waiting to
> kill someone.
>
> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of the
> back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex the exhaust
> under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon monoxide.
>
> There 'is' a reason diesel trucks have tall stacks or monster
> tailpipes....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Jeeper who was thinking right:
> >
> > http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/XF9Sy8Cv
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
05-24-2006, 10:51 PM
#40
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Re: An excellent Jeep
When I worked in the Dodge/International dealer back in 1978, there was a
customer who had a D100 with the Nissan (?) diesel, that he was inordinately
proud of. He had a chromed stack built, to exit high just behind the
driver's side door. The body was a fleetside (wide style pickup body) too.
That stack curved around the body, adding a good six inches to the vehicle
width. It was hot too, and there was no way a normal-thinking person would
avoid hitting it on exiting the cab. Good thing the guy in the bay next to
mine always seemed to get to work on it.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca...
> What a total piece of crap!
>
> The thing shouldn't be street legal, it is a death machine waiting to
> kill someone.
>
> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of the
> back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex the exhaust
> under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon monoxide.
>
> There 'is' a reason diesel trucks have tall stacks or monster
> tailpipes....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Jeeper who was thinking right:
> >
> > http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/XF9Sy8Cv
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
customer who had a D100 with the Nissan (?) diesel, that he was inordinately
proud of. He had a chromed stack built, to exit high just behind the
driver's side door. The body was a fleetside (wide style pickup body) too.
That stack curved around the body, adding a good six inches to the vehicle
width. It was hot too, and there was no way a normal-thinking person would
avoid hitting it on exiting the cab. Good thing the guy in the bay next to
mine always seemed to get to work on it.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4474D7D1.421ABEA5@sympatico.ca...
> What a total piece of crap!
>
> The thing shouldn't be street legal, it is a death machine waiting to
> kill someone.
>
> The fool who built it has the exhaust pipe coming out in front of the
> back tire. Sure it 'looks' cool, but.... That will vortex the exhaust
> under the vehicle and fill the cab with carbon monoxide.
>
> There 'is' a reason diesel trucks have tall stacks or monster
> tailpipes....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Jeeper who was thinking right:
> >
> > http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/XF9Sy8Cv
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***