Even Rubicons get stuck
#31
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Years ago, someone told me something that I've always taken to heart when
off roading:
"Four wheel drive doesn't keep you from getting stuck. It just lets you get
stuck in much worse places."
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
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"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> > I'm sure it was a great
> > feeling pulling out the new Rubi !
>
> why? obviously anything can get stuck, and even the best vehicle in the
> wrong hands can get stuck. if he was being a jerk boasting superiority i
> could understand it, but if that were the case i would have left him there
> anyway. ;-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
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> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
off roading:
"Four wheel drive doesn't keep you from getting stuck. It just lets you get
stuck in much worse places."
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:sc2Ib.36733$QZ2.4012@news02.roc.ny...
> > I'm sure it was a great
> > feeling pulling out the new Rubi !
>
> why? obviously anything can get stuck, and even the best vehicle in the
> wrong hands can get stuck. if he was being a jerk boasting superiority i
> could understand it, but if that were the case i would have left him there
> anyway. ;-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
#32
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
> The right tire goes a long way.
Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
"Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up
and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my
89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
>
Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
"Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up
and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my
89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
>
#33
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
> The right tire goes a long way.
Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
"Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up
and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my
89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
>
Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
"Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up
and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my
89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
>
#34
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
> The right tire goes a long way.
Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
"Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up
and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my
89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
>
Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
"Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up
and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my
89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
>
#35
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I have
never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
auto!
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
then
> > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> myself
> > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
>
> thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would have
> bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed my
> mind forever. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
auto!
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
then
> > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> myself
> > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
>
> thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would have
> bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed my
> mind forever. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
#36
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I have
never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
auto!
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
then
> > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> myself
> > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
>
> thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would have
> bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed my
> mind forever. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
auto!
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:tB2Ib.221047$I53.9128564@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
then
> > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> myself
> > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
>
> thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would have
> bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed my
> mind forever. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
#37
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I have
never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
auto!
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:tB2Ib.221047$I53.9128564@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
then
> > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> myself
> > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
>
> thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would have
> bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed my
> mind forever. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
auto!
JimG
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:tB2Ib.221047$I53.9128564@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
then
> > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> myself
> > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
>
> thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would have
> bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed my
> mind forever. :-)
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>
>
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I
have
> never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
> makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like
an
> auto!
>
> JimG
Jim, just about all the purpose-built hardcore wheeling machines, especially
those built for competition, long ago abandoned manual trannies in favor of
the automatic. The harder the trail, the more an automatic is praised for
its ability to give the driver very precise control over what he's doing. I
drive a 5-speed TJ and will convert to an automatic when my clutch finally
goes bad. Especially for rock crawling, an automatic is unbeatable. In the
RCAA events, you'd be hard pressed to find many competitors not running some
form of an automatic. With 122,000 miles I hope it's not much longer until
I can convert my TJ to an automatic. :)
Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
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>
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:tB2Ib.221047$I53.9128564@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
> then
> > > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> > myself
> > > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
> >
> > thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> > curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would
have
> > bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed
my
> > mind forever. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Nathan W. Collier
> > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
#39
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I
have
> never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
> makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like
an
> auto!
>
> JimG
Jim, just about all the purpose-built hardcore wheeling machines, especially
those built for competition, long ago abandoned manual trannies in favor of
the automatic. The harder the trail, the more an automatic is praised for
its ability to give the driver very precise control over what he's doing. I
drive a 5-speed TJ and will convert to an automatic when my clutch finally
goes bad. Especially for rock crawling, an automatic is unbeatable. In the
RCAA events, you'd be hard pressed to find many competitors not running some
form of an automatic. With 122,000 miles I hope it's not much longer until
I can convert my TJ to an automatic. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:tB2Ib.221047$I53.9128564@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
> then
> > > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> > myself
> > > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
> >
> > thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> > curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would
have
> > bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed
my
> > mind forever. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Nathan W. Collier
> > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:dy3Ib.32368$Bo3.19709@news01.roc.ny...
> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I
have
> never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
> makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like
an
> auto!
>
> JimG
Jim, just about all the purpose-built hardcore wheeling machines, especially
those built for competition, long ago abandoned manual trannies in favor of
the automatic. The harder the trail, the more an automatic is praised for
its ability to give the driver very precise control over what he's doing. I
drive a 5-speed TJ and will convert to an automatic when my clutch finally
goes bad. Especially for rock crawling, an automatic is unbeatable. In the
RCAA events, you'd be hard pressed to find many competitors not running some
form of an automatic. With 122,000 miles I hope it's not much longer until
I can convert my TJ to an automatic. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> news:tB2Ib.221047$I53.9128564@twister.southeast.rr .com...
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xu2Ib.36738$Y13.10645@news02.roc.ny...
> > > There is always a few in our crowd that I enjoy seeing get stuck and
> then
> > > have to help them out. Nothing against Rubicon's... I will have one
> > myself
> > > one day. (I would consider yours if it weren't auto)
> >
> > thats cool. not that im trying to push mine or anything, but out of
> > curiosity have you ever rock crawled in an auto jeep? i never would
have
> > bought an auto if i hadnt wheeled in a jeep with an auto once. changed
my
> > mind forever. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Nathan W. Collier
> > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>