Even Rubicons get stuck
01-04-2004, 01:20 PM
#101
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Hi Jerry,
We're not talking about a great amount of speed here, when in 3rd or 4th
gear low range, I travel at similar speeds to stock cases in 1st gear. Once
we get moving (beyond the obstacle that required low to begin with), then
yes I come out of low range... like you say I have to.
As you and Nathan have said, I need to try an auto on the trail, so I may
speak from experience.
Thanks
JimG
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:oTXJb.42224$gN.27210@fed1read05...
> Jim, driving in 4th gear at speed in 4Lo is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad for
the
> gears inside the transfer case. That whining you hear are the gears
> spinning way faster than they were ever designed for.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> > They must have had auto trannys. I can put my CJ in 4th gear 4:1 low
> range
> > and stay with the others (what have you to say about that Nathan and
auto
> > proponents?).
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> >
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:CvWJb.950255$9l5.523472@pd7tw2no...
> > > At jeep jamboree last year, the 2 rubicons had a hard time keeping
up
> > with
> > > all the YJs and TJs in lo range, they could go anywhere, just not very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with
33"
> > BFG
> > > > A/T's).
> > > > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires
caked
> up
> > > and
> > > > just spun.
> > > > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
> > > couldn't get
> > > > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > > > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly
with
> my
> > > 89YJ,
> > > > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > > > The right tire goes a long way.
> > > > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
We're not talking about a great amount of speed here, when in 3rd or 4th
gear low range, I travel at similar speeds to stock cases in 1st gear. Once
we get moving (beyond the obstacle that required low to begin with), then
yes I come out of low range... like you say I have to.
As you and Nathan have said, I need to try an auto on the trail, so I may
speak from experience.
Thanks
JimG
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:oTXJb.42224$gN.27210@fed1read05...
> Jim, driving in 4th gear at speed in 4Lo is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad for
the
> gears inside the transfer case. That whining you hear are the gears
> spinning way faster than they were ever designed for.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> > They must have had auto trannys. I can put my CJ in 4th gear 4:1 low
> range
> > and stay with the others (what have you to say about that Nathan and
auto
> > proponents?).
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> >
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:CvWJb.950255$9l5.523472@pd7tw2no...
> > > At jeep jamboree last year, the 2 rubicons had a hard time keeping
up
> > with
> > > all the YJs and TJs in lo range, they could go anywhere, just not very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with
33"
> > BFG
> > > > A/T's).
> > > > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires
caked
> up
> > > and
> > > > just spun.
> > > > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
> > > couldn't get
> > > > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > > > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly
with
> my
> > > 89YJ,
> > > > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > > > The right tire goes a long way.
> > > > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
01-04-2004, 01:20 PM
#102
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Hi Jerry,
We're not talking about a great amount of speed here, when in 3rd or 4th
gear low range, I travel at similar speeds to stock cases in 1st gear. Once
we get moving (beyond the obstacle that required low to begin with), then
yes I come out of low range... like you say I have to.
As you and Nathan have said, I need to try an auto on the trail, so I may
speak from experience.
Thanks
JimG
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:oTXJb.42224$gN.27210@fed1read05...
> Jim, driving in 4th gear at speed in 4Lo is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad for
the
> gears inside the transfer case. That whining you hear are the gears
> spinning way faster than they were ever designed for.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> > They must have had auto trannys. I can put my CJ in 4th gear 4:1 low
> range
> > and stay with the others (what have you to say about that Nathan and
auto
> > proponents?).
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> >
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:CvWJb.950255$9l5.523472@pd7tw2no...
> > > At jeep jamboree last year, the 2 rubicons had a hard time keeping
up
> > with
> > > all the YJs and TJs in lo range, they could go anywhere, just not very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with
33"
> > BFG
> > > > A/T's).
> > > > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires
caked
> up
> > > and
> > > > just spun.
> > > > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
> > > couldn't get
> > > > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > > > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly
with
> my
> > > 89YJ,
> > > > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > > > The right tire goes a long way.
> > > > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
We're not talking about a great amount of speed here, when in 3rd or 4th
gear low range, I travel at similar speeds to stock cases in 1st gear. Once
we get moving (beyond the obstacle that required low to begin with), then
yes I come out of low range... like you say I have to.
As you and Nathan have said, I need to try an auto on the trail, so I may
speak from experience.
Thanks
JimG
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:oTXJb.42224$gN.27210@fed1read05...
> Jim, driving in 4th gear at speed in 4Lo is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad for
the
> gears inside the transfer case. That whining you hear are the gears
> spinning way faster than they were ever designed for.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> > They must have had auto trannys. I can put my CJ in 4th gear 4:1 low
> range
> > and stay with the others (what have you to say about that Nathan and
auto
> > proponents?).
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> >
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:CvWJb.950255$9l5.523472@pd7tw2no...
> > > At jeep jamboree last year, the 2 rubicons had a hard time keeping
up
> > with
> > > all the YJs and TJs in lo range, they could go anywhere, just not very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with
33"
> > BFG
> > > > A/T's).
> > > > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires
caked
> up
> > > and
> > > > just spun.
> > > > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
> > > couldn't get
> > > > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > > > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly
with
> my
> > > 89YJ,
> > > > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > > > The right tire goes a long way.
> > > > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
01-04-2004, 01:20 PM
#103
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Posts: n/a
Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Hi Jerry,
We're not talking about a great amount of speed here, when in 3rd or 4th
gear low range, I travel at similar speeds to stock cases in 1st gear. Once
we get moving (beyond the obstacle that required low to begin with), then
yes I come out of low range... like you say I have to.
As you and Nathan have said, I need to try an auto on the trail, so I may
speak from experience.
Thanks
JimG
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:oTXJb.42224$gN.27210@fed1read05...
> Jim, driving in 4th gear at speed in 4Lo is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad for
the
> gears inside the transfer case. That whining you hear are the gears
> spinning way faster than they were ever designed for.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> > They must have had auto trannys. I can put my CJ in 4th gear 4:1 low
> range
> > and stay with the others (what have you to say about that Nathan and
auto
> > proponents?).
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> >
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:CvWJb.950255$9l5.523472@pd7tw2no...
> > > At jeep jamboree last year, the 2 rubicons had a hard time keeping
up
> > with
> > > all the YJs and TJs in lo range, they could go anywhere, just not very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with
33"
> > BFG
> > > > A/T's).
> > > > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires
caked
> up
> > > and
> > > > just spun.
> > > > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
> > > couldn't get
> > > > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > > > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly
with
> my
> > > 89YJ,
> > > > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > > > The right tire goes a long way.
> > > > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
We're not talking about a great amount of speed here, when in 3rd or 4th
gear low range, I travel at similar speeds to stock cases in 1st gear. Once
we get moving (beyond the obstacle that required low to begin with), then
yes I come out of low range... like you say I have to.
As you and Nathan have said, I need to try an auto on the trail, so I may
speak from experience.
Thanks
JimG
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:oTXJb.42224$gN.27210@fed1read05...
> Jim, driving in 4th gear at speed in 4Lo is REALLY REALLY REALLY bad for
the
> gears inside the transfer case. That whining you hear are the gears
> spinning way faster than they were ever designed for.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> > They must have had auto trannys. I can put my CJ in 4th gear 4:1 low
> range
> > and stay with the others (what have you to say about that Nathan and
auto
> > proponents?).
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> >
> >
> > "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:CvWJb.950255$9l5.523472@pd7tw2no...
> > > At jeep jamboree last year, the 2 rubicons had a hard time keeping
up
> > with
> > > all the YJs and TJs in lo range, they could go anywhere, just not very
> > fast.
> > >
> > > "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > > > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with
33"
> > BFG
> > > > A/T's).
> > > > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires
caked
> up
> > > and
> > > > just spun.
> > > > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just
> > > couldn't get
> > > > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > > > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly
with
> my
> > > 89YJ,
> > > > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > > > The right tire goes a long way.
> > > > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > > > 89 Wrangler
> > > > 00 Grand Cherokee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
01-04-2004, 02:52 PM
#104
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Real Jeep transfers use two to one gears.
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twaldron wrote:
>
> heheh! I guess that makes sense. :)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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twaldron wrote:
>
> heheh! I guess that makes sense. :)
01-04-2004, 02:52 PM
#105
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Real Jeep transfers use two to one gears.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> heheh! I guess that makes sense. :)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> heheh! I guess that makes sense. :)
01-04-2004, 02:52 PM
#106
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
Real Jeep transfers use two to one gears.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> heheh! I guess that makes sense. :)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> heheh! I guess that makes sense. :)
01-04-2004, 10:40 PM
#107
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> (what have you to say about that Nathan and auto
> proponents?).
i find the 4 to 1 ratio to be to low for most anything other than rock
crawling. for rock crawling the 4 to 1 is _perfect_, but its just to low to
use in most other situations. an auto or manual in front of the 4 to 1 isnt
going to make a bit of difference when the transfer case gears are whining
from being spun way to fast.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> (what have you to say about that Nathan and auto
> proponents?).
i find the 4 to 1 ratio to be to low for most anything other than rock
crawling. for rock crawling the 4 to 1 is _perfect_, but its just to low to
use in most other situations. an auto or manual in front of the 4 to 1 isnt
going to make a bit of difference when the transfer case gears are whining
from being spun way to fast.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-04-2004, 10:40 PM
#108
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> (what have you to say about that Nathan and auto
> proponents?).
i find the 4 to 1 ratio to be to low for most anything other than rock
crawling. for rock crawling the 4 to 1 is _perfect_, but its just to low to
use in most other situations. an auto or manual in front of the 4 to 1 isnt
going to make a bit of difference when the transfer case gears are whining
from being spun way to fast.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> (what have you to say about that Nathan and auto
> proponents?).
i find the 4 to 1 ratio to be to low for most anything other than rock
crawling. for rock crawling the 4 to 1 is _perfect_, but its just to low to
use in most other situations. an auto or manual in front of the 4 to 1 isnt
going to make a bit of difference when the transfer case gears are whining
from being spun way to fast.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
01-04-2004, 10:40 PM
#109
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Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> (what have you to say about that Nathan and auto
> proponents?).
i find the 4 to 1 ratio to be to low for most anything other than rock
crawling. for rock crawling the 4 to 1 is _perfect_, but its just to low to
use in most other situations. an auto or manual in front of the 4 to 1 isnt
going to make a bit of difference when the transfer case gears are whining
from being spun way to fast.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:iOXJb.33222$0B3.16640@news01.roc.ny...
> (what have you to say about that Nathan and auto
> proponents?).
i find the 4 to 1 ratio to be to low for most anything other than rock
crawling. for rock crawling the 4 to 1 is _perfect_, but its just to low to
use in most other situations. an auto or manual in front of the 4 to 1 isnt
going to make a bit of difference when the transfer case gears are whining
from being spun way to fast.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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