evaporation Cannister
06-22-2004, 09:53 AM
#11
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Re: evaporation Cannister
Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
the carb on the PCV lines.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> "Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>
> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> changes, the canister is shot."
>
> I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> > cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> > Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >
the carb on the PCV lines.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> "Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>
> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> changes, the canister is shot."
>
> I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> > cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> > Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >
06-22-2004, 09:53 AM
#12
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Re: evaporation Cannister
Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
the carb on the PCV lines.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> "Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>
> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> changes, the canister is shot."
>
> I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> > cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> > Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >
the carb on the PCV lines.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> "Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>
> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> changes, the canister is shot."
>
> I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> > cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> > Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >
06-22-2004, 09:53 AM
#13
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Re: evaporation Cannister
Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
the carb on the PCV lines.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> "Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>
> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> changes, the canister is shot."
>
> I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> > cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> > Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >
the carb on the PCV lines.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> "Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>
> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> changes, the canister is shot."
>
> I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> > where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> > cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> > Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >
06-22-2004, 08:51 PM
#14
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Re: evaporation Cannister
I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
06-22-2004, 08:51 PM
#15
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Re: evaporation Cannister
I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
06-22-2004, 08:51 PM
#16
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Re: evaporation Cannister
I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
06-22-2004, 08:51 PM
#17
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Re: evaporation Cannister
I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
Mike Romain wrote:
> Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> the carb on the PCV lines.
>
> Mike
>
> Jim85CJ wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
>>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
>>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
>>
>> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
>>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
>>changes, the canister is shot."
>>
>>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
>>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
>>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
>>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
>>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
>>
>>Jim85CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
>>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
>>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
>>>
06-23-2004, 09:44 AM
#18
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Re: evaporation Cannister
The reason I am asking is your description sounds like maybe a dead
canister with the solenoid still functioning.
The canister gets its purge signal from a ported vacuum nipple via the
CTO valve and should only be turned on when hot and at speed.
The sucking cold and not hot sounds like the solenoid is all that is
'turning on or off' the canister or it could just be the computer
adjusting the mix for suction levels.
This could mean the purge valve is shot which can **** an amazing amount
of oil into the air filter. Putting a 'T' fitting in will allow you to
find out for sure.
There is no way to 'bypass' the canister. You can just vent the gas
tank to the open air in a pinch, but that creates bad fumes.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> > the carb on the PCV lines.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> >>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >>changes, the canister is shot."
> >>
> >>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> >>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> >>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> >>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> >>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> >>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> >>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >>>
canister with the solenoid still functioning.
The canister gets its purge signal from a ported vacuum nipple via the
CTO valve and should only be turned on when hot and at speed.
The sucking cold and not hot sounds like the solenoid is all that is
'turning on or off' the canister or it could just be the computer
adjusting the mix for suction levels.
This could mean the purge valve is shot which can **** an amazing amount
of oil into the air filter. Putting a 'T' fitting in will allow you to
find out for sure.
There is no way to 'bypass' the canister. You can just vent the gas
tank to the open air in a pinch, but that creates bad fumes.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> > the carb on the PCV lines.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> >>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >>changes, the canister is shot."
> >>
> >>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> >>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> >>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> >>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> >>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> >>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> >>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >>>
06-23-2004, 09:44 AM
#19
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Re: evaporation Cannister
The reason I am asking is your description sounds like maybe a dead
canister with the solenoid still functioning.
The canister gets its purge signal from a ported vacuum nipple via the
CTO valve and should only be turned on when hot and at speed.
The sucking cold and not hot sounds like the solenoid is all that is
'turning on or off' the canister or it could just be the computer
adjusting the mix for suction levels.
This could mean the purge valve is shot which can **** an amazing amount
of oil into the air filter. Putting a 'T' fitting in will allow you to
find out for sure.
There is no way to 'bypass' the canister. You can just vent the gas
tank to the open air in a pinch, but that creates bad fumes.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> > the carb on the PCV lines.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> >>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >>changes, the canister is shot."
> >>
> >>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> >>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> >>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> >>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> >>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> >>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> >>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >>>
canister with the solenoid still functioning.
The canister gets its purge signal from a ported vacuum nipple via the
CTO valve and should only be turned on when hot and at speed.
The sucking cold and not hot sounds like the solenoid is all that is
'turning on or off' the canister or it could just be the computer
adjusting the mix for suction levels.
This could mean the purge valve is shot which can **** an amazing amount
of oil into the air filter. Putting a 'T' fitting in will allow you to
find out for sure.
There is no way to 'bypass' the canister. You can just vent the gas
tank to the open air in a pinch, but that creates bad fumes.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> > the carb on the PCV lines.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> >>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >>changes, the canister is shot."
> >>
> >>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> >>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> >>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> >>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> >>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> >>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> >>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >>>
06-23-2004, 09:44 AM
#20
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Re: evaporation Cannister
The reason I am asking is your description sounds like maybe a dead
canister with the solenoid still functioning.
The canister gets its purge signal from a ported vacuum nipple via the
CTO valve and should only be turned on when hot and at speed.
The sucking cold and not hot sounds like the solenoid is all that is
'turning on or off' the canister or it could just be the computer
adjusting the mix for suction levels.
This could mean the purge valve is shot which can **** an amazing amount
of oil into the air filter. Putting a 'T' fitting in will allow you to
find out for sure.
There is no way to 'bypass' the canister. You can just vent the gas
tank to the open air in a pinch, but that creates bad fumes.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> > the carb on the PCV lines.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> >>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >>changes, the canister is shot."
> >>
> >>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> >>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> >>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> >>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> >>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> >>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> >>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >>>
canister with the solenoid still functioning.
The canister gets its purge signal from a ported vacuum nipple via the
CTO valve and should only be turned on when hot and at speed.
The sucking cold and not hot sounds like the solenoid is all that is
'turning on or off' the canister or it could just be the computer
adjusting the mix for suction levels.
This could mean the purge valve is shot which can **** an amazing amount
of oil into the air filter. Putting a 'T' fitting in will allow you to
find out for sure.
There is no way to 'bypass' the canister. You can just vent the gas
tank to the open air in a pinch, but that creates bad fumes.
Mike
Jim85CJ wrote:
>
> I'll go with Solenoid... I'll put in a T this week...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Lets start off by asking if you have a t-fitting or a solenoid behind
> > the carb on the PCV lines.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jim85CJ wrote:
> >
> >>Mike Romain -- You mentioned (when discussing oil in the air filter):
> >>"Then trace the line to the T fitting or solenoid behind the carb. The
> >>solenoid is a failed design and is recalled. The fix is a T fitting.
> >>
> >> From this part, trace the other line to the top of the charcoal
> >>canister. At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle
> >>changes, the canister is shot."
> >>
> >>I pinched that line with the engine idling (but cold) and the idle went
> >>up. Today, after driving about 40 minutes, I pinched the line and the
> >>idle didn't do anything. In your opinion, is the canister shot or
> >>not??? I do get suction at the PCV valvebut I'm not sure if it's
> >>enough. If the canister is shot, can I bypass it? If so, how?
> >>
> >>Jim85CJ wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>where can I find an evaporation canister (also heard it called a charcol
> >>>cannister)for an 85 CJ7 (http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/evaporat.htm?
> >>>Apparently I need to replace mine. Am I stuck going to a Jeep dealer?
> >>>