Re: Engine Light
 

Alan wrote:
>
> I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
>
>

Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
answer.

A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
intermittently.

Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.

Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.

If you can get that, then let us know the codes.

You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
suckered for emissions.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Engine Light
 

Alan wrote:
>
> I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
>
>

Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
answer.

A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
intermittently.

Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.

Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.

If you can get that, then let us know the codes.

You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
suckered for emissions.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Engine Light
 

Alan wrote:
>
> I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
>
>

Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
answer.

A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
intermittently.

Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.

Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.

If you can get that, then let us know the codes.

You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
suckered for emissions.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Engine Light
 

On Jul 16, 1:30 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
> > I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> > happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> > then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> > weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> > Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> > failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
> Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
> thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
> answer.
>
> A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
> intermittently.
>
> Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
> can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
> again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
> flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.
>
> Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.
>
> If you can get that, then let us know the codes.
>
> You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
> so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
> suckered for emissions.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Alan

I was getting a random check engine light a couple months ago.
Disconnect my battery to re-set the codes and it would come back on
once in a while.
Was starting to do the research to correct this then I happened to
check my oil and the dipstick was not down tight in the tube.
The light has not come back. Coincidence?


On my YJ I swapped in a new cat for around 200 bucks

Stan

Re: Engine Light
 

On Jul 16, 1:30 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
> > I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> > happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> > then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> > weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> > Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> > failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
> Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
> thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
> answer.
>
> A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
> intermittently.
>
> Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
> can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
> again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
> flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.
>
> Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.
>
> If you can get that, then let us know the codes.
>
> You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
> so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
> suckered for emissions.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Alan

I was getting a random check engine light a couple months ago.
Disconnect my battery to re-set the codes and it would come back on
once in a while.
Was starting to do the research to correct this then I happened to
check my oil and the dipstick was not down tight in the tube.
The light has not come back. Coincidence?


On my YJ I swapped in a new cat for around 200 bucks

Stan

Re: Engine Light
 

On Jul 16, 1:30 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
> > I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> > happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> > then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> > weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> > Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> > failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
> Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
> thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
> answer.
>
> A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
> intermittently.
>
> Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
> can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
> again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
> flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.
>
> Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.
>
> If you can get that, then let us know the codes.
>
> You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
> so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
> suckered for emissions.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Alan

I was getting a random check engine light a couple months ago.
Disconnect my battery to re-set the codes and it would come back on
once in a while.
Was starting to do the research to correct this then I happened to
check my oil and the dipstick was not down tight in the tube.
The light has not come back. Coincidence?


On my YJ I swapped in a new cat for around 200 bucks

Stan

Re: Engine Light
 

On Jul 16, 1:30 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
> > I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> > happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> > then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> > weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> > Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> > failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
> Are they including a new engine with this Cat? If not, they are
> thieves. Certainly 'not' trustworthy enough to give you a straight code
> answer.
>
> A loose gas cap even will cause the check engine light to come on
> intermittently.
>
> Can you not get your own codes on that one? I don't know, but if you
> can, you turn the key to get them. You go to run, off, run, off and run
> again and watch the dash for either a blinking light you count the
> flashes or a series of numbers starting with a P will flash.
>
> Some auto parts stores will also check the codes for free.
>
> If you can get that, then let us know the codes.
>
> You can also clear the codes by unhooking the battery for a few minutes
> so if the light doesn't immediately come back on, you shouldn't get
> suckered for emissions.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Alan

I was getting a random check engine light a couple months ago.
Disconnect my battery to re-set the codes and it would come back on
once in a while.
Was starting to do the research to correct this then I happened to
check my oil and the dipstick was not down tight in the tube.
The light has not come back. Coincidence?


On my YJ I swapped in a new cat for around 200 bucks

Stan

Re: Engine Light
 

"Alan" <alanb_lano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:469ba217$0$30593$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns995B69381A7E6xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
>> "Alan" <alanb_lano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I live in California and have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport.
>>> Occasionally (perhaps once a year) the engine light will come on.
>>> I'll get antsy and plan to take it in for service. But the light
>>> only stays on for a couple of hours then goes off. I mention this
>>> to the service guys and because the light isn't on, they have no
>>> clue.
>>
>> Shouldn't the Check Engine Light set a code in the computer? Shouldn't
>> the service guys know how to read the code and see what set it? I
>> think you're correct when you say, "..they have no clue."
>
> I took the Jeep to a different service place that I had used before that
> was on the list of AAA-proved repair shops. They checked the codes and
> determined that one of the three catalytic converters had failed. They
> said they also checked to see if it was just a bad sensor. They said that
> parts and labor for a rebuilt unit would be about $1500. New would be
> about $1900. They also said I could drive it for a few months (maybe
> longer) without damaging anything, but that if a smog test was upcoming,
> it wouldn't pass. I drove the Jeep for a about a week and then yesterday
> all by itself the engine light went off.
>
> I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
"One of the three" catalytic converters? There is only one. They want to
sell you a "rebuilt" unit? Run, do not walk, from this place. I would guess
you have an O2 sensor about to go, probably time to change all of them.
Often an intermittent CEL will indicate a minor emissions fault, which isn't
critical to engine operation. A failed cat means you will hear the element
rattle inside the housing.

Anyway, find someone else to check this out.

Re: Engine Light
 

"Alan" <alanb_lano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:469ba217$0$30593$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns995B69381A7E6xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
>> "Alan" <alanb_lano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I live in California and have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport.
>>> Occasionally (perhaps once a year) the engine light will come on.
>>> I'll get antsy and plan to take it in for service. But the light
>>> only stays on for a couple of hours then goes off. I mention this
>>> to the service guys and because the light isn't on, they have no
>>> clue.
>>
>> Shouldn't the Check Engine Light set a code in the computer? Shouldn't
>> the service guys know how to read the code and see what set it? I
>> think you're correct when you say, "..they have no clue."
>
> I took the Jeep to a different service place that I had used before that
> was on the list of AAA-proved repair shops. They checked the codes and
> determined that one of the three catalytic converters had failed. They
> said they also checked to see if it was just a bad sensor. They said that
> parts and labor for a rebuilt unit would be about $1500. New would be
> about $1900. They also said I could drive it for a few months (maybe
> longer) without damaging anything, but that if a smog test was upcoming,
> it wouldn't pass. I drove the Jeep for a about a week and then yesterday
> all by itself the engine light went off.
>
> I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
"One of the three" catalytic converters? There is only one. They want to
sell you a "rebuilt" unit? Run, do not walk, from this place. I would guess
you have an O2 sensor about to go, probably time to change all of them.
Often an intermittent CEL will indicate a minor emissions fault, which isn't
critical to engine operation. A failed cat means you will hear the element
rattle inside the housing.

Anyway, find someone else to check this out.

Re: Engine Light
 

"Alan" <alanb_lano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:469ba217$0$30593$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns995B69381A7E6xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
>> "Alan" <alanb_lano2spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I live in California and have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport.
>>> Occasionally (perhaps once a year) the engine light will come on.
>>> I'll get antsy and plan to take it in for service. But the light
>>> only stays on for a couple of hours then goes off. I mention this
>>> to the service guys and because the light isn't on, they have no
>>> clue.
>>
>> Shouldn't the Check Engine Light set a code in the computer? Shouldn't
>> the service guys know how to read the code and see what set it? I
>> think you're correct when you say, "..they have no clue."
>
> I took the Jeep to a different service place that I had used before that
> was on the list of AAA-proved repair shops. They checked the codes and
> determined that one of the three catalytic converters had failed. They
> said they also checked to see if it was just a bad sensor. They said that
> parts and labor for a rebuilt unit would be about $1500. New would be
> about $1900. They also said I could drive it for a few months (maybe
> longer) without damaging anything, but that if a smog test was upcoming,
> it wouldn't pass. I drove the Jeep for a about a week and then yesterday
> all by itself the engine light went off.
>
> I didn't keep an accurate record, but here is approximately what has
> happened. A year and a half ago, the engine light came on for a few hours
> then went off. Six weeks ago it came on for a few hours then went off. Two
> weeks ago it came on and stayed on for about 10 days. It is now off.
>
> Is that what happens when a catalytic converter is failing but hasn't yet
> failed completely? Or does this behavior portend something else?
>
"One of the three" catalytic converters? There is only one. They want to
sell you a "rebuilt" unit? Run, do not walk, from this place. I would guess
you have an O2 sensor about to go, probably time to change all of them.
Often an intermittent CEL will indicate a minor emissions fault, which isn't
critical to engine operation. A failed cat means you will hear the element
rattle inside the housing.

Anyway, find someone else to check this out.