Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
10-15-2003, 11:23 AM
#11
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Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
"shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
work fine.
Good Luck!
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
"shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
work fine.
Good Luck!
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 11:23 AM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
"shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
work fine.
Good Luck!
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
"shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
work fine.
Good Luck!
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 11:23 AM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
"shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
work fine.
Good Luck!
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
"shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
work fine.
Good Luck!
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 11:46 AM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
on the fly' into 4 high.
The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
high, and I do it all the time.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
> "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
> the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
> gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
> work fine.
> Good Luck!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
on the fly' into 4 high.
The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
high, and I do it all the time.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
> "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
> the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
> gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
> work fine.
> Good Luck!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
10-15-2003, 11:46 AM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
on the fly' into 4 high.
The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
high, and I do it all the time.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
> "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
> the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
> gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
> work fine.
> Good Luck!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
on the fly' into 4 high.
The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
high, and I do it all the time.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
> "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
> the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
> gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
> work fine.
> Good Luck!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
10-15-2003, 11:46 AM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
on the fly' into 4 high.
The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
high, and I do it all the time.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
> "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
> the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
> gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
> work fine.
> Good Luck!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
on the fly' into 4 high.
The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
high, and I do it all the time.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't no
> "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line... all
> the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out of
> gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed will
> work fine.
> Good Luck!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
10-15-2003, 01:03 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Hi Mike,
Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> on the fly' into 4 high.
>
> The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> high, and I do it all the time.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
no
> > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
all
> > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
of
> > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
will
> > work fine.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> on the fly' into 4 high.
>
> The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> high, and I do it all the time.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
no
> > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
all
> > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
of
> > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
will
> > work fine.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 01:03 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Hi Mike,
Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> on the fly' into 4 high.
>
> The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> high, and I do it all the time.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
no
> > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
all
> > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
of
> > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
will
> > work fine.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> on the fly' into 4 high.
>
> The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> high, and I do it all the time.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
no
> > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
all
> > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
of
> > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
will
> > work fine.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 01:03 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Hi Mike,
Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> on the fly' into 4 high.
>
> The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> high, and I do it all the time.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
no
> > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
all
> > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
of
> > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
will
> > work fine.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> on the fly' into 4 high.
>
> The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> high, and I do it all the time.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
no
> > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
all
> > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
of
> > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
will
> > work fine.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:23 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Which is as strong as a Dana 44, until someone splits the hub from
the axle, to replace the seal, after that you must buy the one piece
axles like the Dana's have switched too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
travis wrote:
>
> Sorry, make that AMC-20 rear...still trying to learn...
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
the axle, to replace the seal, after that you must buy the one piece
axles like the Dana's have switched too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
travis wrote:
>
> Sorry, make that AMC-20 rear...still trying to learn...
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
