Discovered Bore
#91
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Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way you
are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
might think.
The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous knowlege
you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when you
turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
yourself.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> between when it was done and when I asked.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> >
> > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> >
> > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> >
> > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
pistons.
>
>
are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
might think.
The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous knowlege
you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when you
turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
yourself.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> between when it was done and when I asked.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> >
> > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> >
> > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> >
> > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > William Oliveri wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
pistons.
>
>
#92
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Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
In message <c1ns2a$1k9hvi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:
>Mike,
>Is there any way to test a charcoal can detatched from the jeep?
The part that fails is the purge valve diaphragm. It's operated by ported
vacuum being applied on the smallest nipple on the canister. Apply vacuum to
that nipple and it should hold. If it doesn't hold vacuum, the diaphragm has
ruptured and you need a new canister.
>
>Would a bad charcoal Can cause the effect like we see in #2 cylinder?
No.
>
>When I checked the other items (air filter tube/housing, pcv tube, throttle
>body) I also looked at the air filter. It was dirty at the bottom but
>nothing that bad. Remember, this air filter is sprayed with oil so the oil
>I sprayed it with accumulated at the bottom. Like an ounce or so. You
>couldn't even get your hands wet with it. Not to the degree you discribe.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:403F5D0B.78D5950F@sympatico.ca...
>> Too bad you are so far away.
>>
>> You need someone that knows engines and isn't just out to take you
>> money.
>>
>> Something really strange is going on.....
>>
>> What you are now describing is blow by, big blow by.
>>
>> You cannot have this with 150 psi compression unless the PCV valve is
>> just plain broken or shut off from a bad charcoal canister.
>>
>> What did your air filter look like? It 'must' have been just full of
>> oil to have the intake with oil pools in it.
>>
>> If it wasn't full of oil, then you do not have 'blow by'.
>>
>> You also 'must' have had one big blue cloud following you with the
>> amount of oil you describe in the intake, no two ways about it. (unless
>> it is gas wash)
>>
>> You are aware that a dead charcoal canister will produce enough blow by
>> to really imitate a blown engine right? It will soak an air filter in a
>> week.
>>
>> I am really almost thinking that someone sold you a dead FI system. I
>> think it was broken and giving them the same fits and strange symptoms
>> you are getting so they unloaded it on you.
>>
>> Gas wash is very strange if you haven't seen it before. It takes very
>> little gas to wash down the dirt and oil and make a messy slurry that
>> almost looks like oil. This can pool in an intake manifold or into a
>> piston.
>>
>> You are describing injectors leaking down and pooling in the intake or
>> 'gas wash'.
>>
>> Good luck Bill!
>>
>> I am out of ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>> >
>> > I took the intake manifold to a perfomance shop today to have the
>injector
>> > in question tested and the mechanic told me it's highly unlikely to be
>> > cylinder wash. He looked at the intake manifold and saw oil in each
>> > manifold "finger" (which I didn't see before) and when he opened the
>> > throttle there was a pool of oil in the there. When I looked in the
>same
>> > place when the intake was on the engine I didn't see a drop. I felt and
>ran
>> > a q-tip inside the pcv valve hose and didn't come back with any oil
>stains.
>> > I put my hand inside the filter hose which connects to the throttle body
>and
>> > I didn't feel any oil there either. Of course, this was closer to when
>I
>> > started this process and not in the later days. Could be it got worse
>in
>> > the end or was pooled in the intake and didn't show up in the throttle
>body.
>> > He told me Blow By was going on and I needed a new engine.
>> >
>> > Is there anything else that could be going on as I'm getting ansy about
>> > pulling this piston. Could there be some effect which is affecting only
>#2?
>> > Should I have him test #2 injector anyway and see what he finds?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
>> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
>> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
>> > >
>> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
>> > >
>> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
>> > >
>> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > >
>> > > William Oliveri wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
>pistons.
>
wrote:
>Mike,
>Is there any way to test a charcoal can detatched from the jeep?
The part that fails is the purge valve diaphragm. It's operated by ported
vacuum being applied on the smallest nipple on the canister. Apply vacuum to
that nipple and it should hold. If it doesn't hold vacuum, the diaphragm has
ruptured and you need a new canister.
>
>Would a bad charcoal Can cause the effect like we see in #2 cylinder?
No.
>
>When I checked the other items (air filter tube/housing, pcv tube, throttle
>body) I also looked at the air filter. It was dirty at the bottom but
>nothing that bad. Remember, this air filter is sprayed with oil so the oil
>I sprayed it with accumulated at the bottom. Like an ounce or so. You
>couldn't even get your hands wet with it. Not to the degree you discribe.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:403F5D0B.78D5950F@sympatico.ca...
>> Too bad you are so far away.
>>
>> You need someone that knows engines and isn't just out to take you
>> money.
>>
>> Something really strange is going on.....
>>
>> What you are now describing is blow by, big blow by.
>>
>> You cannot have this with 150 psi compression unless the PCV valve is
>> just plain broken or shut off from a bad charcoal canister.
>>
>> What did your air filter look like? It 'must' have been just full of
>> oil to have the intake with oil pools in it.
>>
>> If it wasn't full of oil, then you do not have 'blow by'.
>>
>> You also 'must' have had one big blue cloud following you with the
>> amount of oil you describe in the intake, no two ways about it. (unless
>> it is gas wash)
>>
>> You are aware that a dead charcoal canister will produce enough blow by
>> to really imitate a blown engine right? It will soak an air filter in a
>> week.
>>
>> I am really almost thinking that someone sold you a dead FI system. I
>> think it was broken and giving them the same fits and strange symptoms
>> you are getting so they unloaded it on you.
>>
>> Gas wash is very strange if you haven't seen it before. It takes very
>> little gas to wash down the dirt and oil and make a messy slurry that
>> almost looks like oil. This can pool in an intake manifold or into a
>> piston.
>>
>> You are describing injectors leaking down and pooling in the intake or
>> 'gas wash'.
>>
>> Good luck Bill!
>>
>> I am out of ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>> >
>> > I took the intake manifold to a perfomance shop today to have the
>injector
>> > in question tested and the mechanic told me it's highly unlikely to be
>> > cylinder wash. He looked at the intake manifold and saw oil in each
>> > manifold "finger" (which I didn't see before) and when he opened the
>> > throttle there was a pool of oil in the there. When I looked in the
>same
>> > place when the intake was on the engine I didn't see a drop. I felt and
>ran
>> > a q-tip inside the pcv valve hose and didn't come back with any oil
>stains.
>> > I put my hand inside the filter hose which connects to the throttle body
>and
>> > I didn't feel any oil there either. Of course, this was closer to when
>I
>> > started this process and not in the later days. Could be it got worse
>in
>> > the end or was pooled in the intake and didn't show up in the throttle
>body.
>> > He told me Blow By was going on and I needed a new engine.
>> >
>> > Is there anything else that could be going on as I'm getting ansy about
>> > pulling this piston. Could there be some effect which is affecting only
>#2?
>> > Should I have him test #2 injector anyway and see what he finds?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
>> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
>> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
>> > >
>> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
>> > >
>> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
>> > >
>> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > >
>> > > William Oliveri wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
>pistons.
>
#93
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Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
In message <c1ns2a$1k9hvi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:
>Mike,
>Is there any way to test a charcoal can detatched from the jeep?
The part that fails is the purge valve diaphragm. It's operated by ported
vacuum being applied on the smallest nipple on the canister. Apply vacuum to
that nipple and it should hold. If it doesn't hold vacuum, the diaphragm has
ruptured and you need a new canister.
>
>Would a bad charcoal Can cause the effect like we see in #2 cylinder?
No.
>
>When I checked the other items (air filter tube/housing, pcv tube, throttle
>body) I also looked at the air filter. It was dirty at the bottom but
>nothing that bad. Remember, this air filter is sprayed with oil so the oil
>I sprayed it with accumulated at the bottom. Like an ounce or so. You
>couldn't even get your hands wet with it. Not to the degree you discribe.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:403F5D0B.78D5950F@sympatico.ca...
>> Too bad you are so far away.
>>
>> You need someone that knows engines and isn't just out to take you
>> money.
>>
>> Something really strange is going on.....
>>
>> What you are now describing is blow by, big blow by.
>>
>> You cannot have this with 150 psi compression unless the PCV valve is
>> just plain broken or shut off from a bad charcoal canister.
>>
>> What did your air filter look like? It 'must' have been just full of
>> oil to have the intake with oil pools in it.
>>
>> If it wasn't full of oil, then you do not have 'blow by'.
>>
>> You also 'must' have had one big blue cloud following you with the
>> amount of oil you describe in the intake, no two ways about it. (unless
>> it is gas wash)
>>
>> You are aware that a dead charcoal canister will produce enough blow by
>> to really imitate a blown engine right? It will soak an air filter in a
>> week.
>>
>> I am really almost thinking that someone sold you a dead FI system. I
>> think it was broken and giving them the same fits and strange symptoms
>> you are getting so they unloaded it on you.
>>
>> Gas wash is very strange if you haven't seen it before. It takes very
>> little gas to wash down the dirt and oil and make a messy slurry that
>> almost looks like oil. This can pool in an intake manifold or into a
>> piston.
>>
>> You are describing injectors leaking down and pooling in the intake or
>> 'gas wash'.
>>
>> Good luck Bill!
>>
>> I am out of ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>> >
>> > I took the intake manifold to a perfomance shop today to have the
>injector
>> > in question tested and the mechanic told me it's highly unlikely to be
>> > cylinder wash. He looked at the intake manifold and saw oil in each
>> > manifold "finger" (which I didn't see before) and when he opened the
>> > throttle there was a pool of oil in the there. When I looked in the
>same
>> > place when the intake was on the engine I didn't see a drop. I felt and
>ran
>> > a q-tip inside the pcv valve hose and didn't come back with any oil
>stains.
>> > I put my hand inside the filter hose which connects to the throttle body
>and
>> > I didn't feel any oil there either. Of course, this was closer to when
>I
>> > started this process and not in the later days. Could be it got worse
>in
>> > the end or was pooled in the intake and didn't show up in the throttle
>body.
>> > He told me Blow By was going on and I needed a new engine.
>> >
>> > Is there anything else that could be going on as I'm getting ansy about
>> > pulling this piston. Could there be some effect which is affecting only
>#2?
>> > Should I have him test #2 injector anyway and see what he finds?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
>> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
>> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
>> > >
>> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
>> > >
>> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
>> > >
>> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > >
>> > > William Oliveri wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
>pistons.
>
wrote:
>Mike,
>Is there any way to test a charcoal can detatched from the jeep?
The part that fails is the purge valve diaphragm. It's operated by ported
vacuum being applied on the smallest nipple on the canister. Apply vacuum to
that nipple and it should hold. If it doesn't hold vacuum, the diaphragm has
ruptured and you need a new canister.
>
>Would a bad charcoal Can cause the effect like we see in #2 cylinder?
No.
>
>When I checked the other items (air filter tube/housing, pcv tube, throttle
>body) I also looked at the air filter. It was dirty at the bottom but
>nothing that bad. Remember, this air filter is sprayed with oil so the oil
>I sprayed it with accumulated at the bottom. Like an ounce or so. You
>couldn't even get your hands wet with it. Not to the degree you discribe.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:403F5D0B.78D5950F@sympatico.ca...
>> Too bad you are so far away.
>>
>> You need someone that knows engines and isn't just out to take you
>> money.
>>
>> Something really strange is going on.....
>>
>> What you are now describing is blow by, big blow by.
>>
>> You cannot have this with 150 psi compression unless the PCV valve is
>> just plain broken or shut off from a bad charcoal canister.
>>
>> What did your air filter look like? It 'must' have been just full of
>> oil to have the intake with oil pools in it.
>>
>> If it wasn't full of oil, then you do not have 'blow by'.
>>
>> You also 'must' have had one big blue cloud following you with the
>> amount of oil you describe in the intake, no two ways about it. (unless
>> it is gas wash)
>>
>> You are aware that a dead charcoal canister will produce enough blow by
>> to really imitate a blown engine right? It will soak an air filter in a
>> week.
>>
>> I am really almost thinking that someone sold you a dead FI system. I
>> think it was broken and giving them the same fits and strange symptoms
>> you are getting so they unloaded it on you.
>>
>> Gas wash is very strange if you haven't seen it before. It takes very
>> little gas to wash down the dirt and oil and make a messy slurry that
>> almost looks like oil. This can pool in an intake manifold or into a
>> piston.
>>
>> You are describing injectors leaking down and pooling in the intake or
>> 'gas wash'.
>>
>> Good luck Bill!
>>
>> I am out of ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>> >
>> > I took the intake manifold to a perfomance shop today to have the
>injector
>> > in question tested and the mechanic told me it's highly unlikely to be
>> > cylinder wash. He looked at the intake manifold and saw oil in each
>> > manifold "finger" (which I didn't see before) and when he opened the
>> > throttle there was a pool of oil in the there. When I looked in the
>same
>> > place when the intake was on the engine I didn't see a drop. I felt and
>ran
>> > a q-tip inside the pcv valve hose and didn't come back with any oil
>stains.
>> > I put my hand inside the filter hose which connects to the throttle body
>and
>> > I didn't feel any oil there either. Of course, this was closer to when
>I
>> > started this process and not in the later days. Could be it got worse
>in
>> > the end or was pooled in the intake and didn't show up in the throttle
>body.
>> > He told me Blow By was going on and I needed a new engine.
>> >
>> > Is there anything else that could be going on as I'm getting ansy about
>> > pulling this piston. Could there be some effect which is affecting only
>#2?
>> > Should I have him test #2 injector anyway and see what he finds?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
>> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
>> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
>> > >
>> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
>> > >
>> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
>> > >
>> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > >
>> > > William Oliveri wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
>pistons.
>
#94
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
In message <c1ns2a$1k9hvi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:
>Mike,
>Is there any way to test a charcoal can detatched from the jeep?
The part that fails is the purge valve diaphragm. It's operated by ported
vacuum being applied on the smallest nipple on the canister. Apply vacuum to
that nipple and it should hold. If it doesn't hold vacuum, the diaphragm has
ruptured and you need a new canister.
>
>Would a bad charcoal Can cause the effect like we see in #2 cylinder?
No.
>
>When I checked the other items (air filter tube/housing, pcv tube, throttle
>body) I also looked at the air filter. It was dirty at the bottom but
>nothing that bad. Remember, this air filter is sprayed with oil so the oil
>I sprayed it with accumulated at the bottom. Like an ounce or so. You
>couldn't even get your hands wet with it. Not to the degree you discribe.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:403F5D0B.78D5950F@sympatico.ca...
>> Too bad you are so far away.
>>
>> You need someone that knows engines and isn't just out to take you
>> money.
>>
>> Something really strange is going on.....
>>
>> What you are now describing is blow by, big blow by.
>>
>> You cannot have this with 150 psi compression unless the PCV valve is
>> just plain broken or shut off from a bad charcoal canister.
>>
>> What did your air filter look like? It 'must' have been just full of
>> oil to have the intake with oil pools in it.
>>
>> If it wasn't full of oil, then you do not have 'blow by'.
>>
>> You also 'must' have had one big blue cloud following you with the
>> amount of oil you describe in the intake, no two ways about it. (unless
>> it is gas wash)
>>
>> You are aware that a dead charcoal canister will produce enough blow by
>> to really imitate a blown engine right? It will soak an air filter in a
>> week.
>>
>> I am really almost thinking that someone sold you a dead FI system. I
>> think it was broken and giving them the same fits and strange symptoms
>> you are getting so they unloaded it on you.
>>
>> Gas wash is very strange if you haven't seen it before. It takes very
>> little gas to wash down the dirt and oil and make a messy slurry that
>> almost looks like oil. This can pool in an intake manifold or into a
>> piston.
>>
>> You are describing injectors leaking down and pooling in the intake or
>> 'gas wash'.
>>
>> Good luck Bill!
>>
>> I am out of ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>> >
>> > I took the intake manifold to a perfomance shop today to have the
>injector
>> > in question tested and the mechanic told me it's highly unlikely to be
>> > cylinder wash. He looked at the intake manifold and saw oil in each
>> > manifold "finger" (which I didn't see before) and when he opened the
>> > throttle there was a pool of oil in the there. When I looked in the
>same
>> > place when the intake was on the engine I didn't see a drop. I felt and
>ran
>> > a q-tip inside the pcv valve hose and didn't come back with any oil
>stains.
>> > I put my hand inside the filter hose which connects to the throttle body
>and
>> > I didn't feel any oil there either. Of course, this was closer to when
>I
>> > started this process and not in the later days. Could be it got worse
>in
>> > the end or was pooled in the intake and didn't show up in the throttle
>body.
>> > He told me Blow By was going on and I needed a new engine.
>> >
>> > Is there anything else that could be going on as I'm getting ansy about
>> > pulling this piston. Could there be some effect which is affecting only
>#2?
>> > Should I have him test #2 injector anyway and see what he finds?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
>> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
>> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
>> > >
>> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
>> > >
>> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
>> > >
>> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > >
>> > > William Oliveri wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
>pistons.
>
wrote:
>Mike,
>Is there any way to test a charcoal can detatched from the jeep?
The part that fails is the purge valve diaphragm. It's operated by ported
vacuum being applied on the smallest nipple on the canister. Apply vacuum to
that nipple and it should hold. If it doesn't hold vacuum, the diaphragm has
ruptured and you need a new canister.
>
>Would a bad charcoal Can cause the effect like we see in #2 cylinder?
No.
>
>When I checked the other items (air filter tube/housing, pcv tube, throttle
>body) I also looked at the air filter. It was dirty at the bottom but
>nothing that bad. Remember, this air filter is sprayed with oil so the oil
>I sprayed it with accumulated at the bottom. Like an ounce or so. You
>couldn't even get your hands wet with it. Not to the degree you discribe.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:403F5D0B.78D5950F@sympatico.ca...
>> Too bad you are so far away.
>>
>> You need someone that knows engines and isn't just out to take you
>> money.
>>
>> Something really strange is going on.....
>>
>> What you are now describing is blow by, big blow by.
>>
>> You cannot have this with 150 psi compression unless the PCV valve is
>> just plain broken or shut off from a bad charcoal canister.
>>
>> What did your air filter look like? It 'must' have been just full of
>> oil to have the intake with oil pools in it.
>>
>> If it wasn't full of oil, then you do not have 'blow by'.
>>
>> You also 'must' have had one big blue cloud following you with the
>> amount of oil you describe in the intake, no two ways about it. (unless
>> it is gas wash)
>>
>> You are aware that a dead charcoal canister will produce enough blow by
>> to really imitate a blown engine right? It will soak an air filter in a
>> week.
>>
>> I am really almost thinking that someone sold you a dead FI system. I
>> think it was broken and giving them the same fits and strange symptoms
>> you are getting so they unloaded it on you.
>>
>> Gas wash is very strange if you haven't seen it before. It takes very
>> little gas to wash down the dirt and oil and make a messy slurry that
>> almost looks like oil. This can pool in an intake manifold or into a
>> piston.
>>
>> You are describing injectors leaking down and pooling in the intake or
>> 'gas wash'.
>>
>> Good luck Bill!
>>
>> I am out of ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> William Oliveri wrote:
>> >
>> > I took the intake manifold to a perfomance shop today to have the
>injector
>> > in question tested and the mechanic told me it's highly unlikely to be
>> > cylinder wash. He looked at the intake manifold and saw oil in each
>> > manifold "finger" (which I didn't see before) and when he opened the
>> > throttle there was a pool of oil in the there. When I looked in the
>same
>> > place when the intake was on the engine I didn't see a drop. I felt and
>ran
>> > a q-tip inside the pcv valve hose and didn't come back with any oil
>stains.
>> > I put my hand inside the filter hose which connects to the throttle body
>and
>> > I didn't feel any oil there either. Of course, this was closer to when
>I
>> > started this process and not in the later days. Could be it got worse
>in
>> > the end or was pooled in the intake and didn't show up in the throttle
>body.
>> > He told me Blow By was going on and I needed a new engine.
>> >
>> > Is there anything else that could be going on as I'm getting ansy about
>> > pulling this piston. Could there be some effect which is affecting only
>#2?
>> > Should I have him test #2 injector anyway and see what he finds?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
>> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
>> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
>> > >
>> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
>> > >
>> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
>> > >
>> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > >
>> > > William Oliveri wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
>pistons.
>
#95
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Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
Thanks Jerry,
I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and my
parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when I
park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to be
real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far (installed
the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is against
me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would be
too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
transport for an engine.
If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
Bill
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
you
> are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
> pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
> cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
> cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
> first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> might think.
>
> The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
knowlege
> you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
you
> turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> yourself.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > between when it was done and when I asked.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > >
> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > >
> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > >
> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> pistons.
> >
> >
>
>
I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and my
parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when I
park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to be
real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far (installed
the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is against
me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would be
too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
transport for an engine.
If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
Bill
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
you
> are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
> pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
> cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
> cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
> first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> might think.
>
> The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
knowlege
> you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
you
> turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> yourself.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > between when it was done and when I asked.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > >
> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > >
> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > >
> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> pistons.
> >
> >
>
>
#96
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
Thanks Jerry,
I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and my
parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when I
park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to be
real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far (installed
the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is against
me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would be
too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
transport for an engine.
If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
Bill
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
you
> are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
> pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
> cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
> cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
> first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> might think.
>
> The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
knowlege
> you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
you
> turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> yourself.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > between when it was done and when I asked.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > >
> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > >
> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > >
> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> pistons.
> >
> >
>
>
I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and my
parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when I
park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to be
real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far (installed
the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is against
me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would be
too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
transport for an engine.
If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
Bill
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
you
> are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
> pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
> cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
> cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
> first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> might think.
>
> The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
knowlege
> you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
you
> turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> yourself.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > between when it was done and when I asked.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > >
> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > >
> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > >
> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> pistons.
> >
> >
>
>
#97
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
Thanks Jerry,
I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and my
parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when I
park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to be
real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far (installed
the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is against
me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would be
too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
transport for an engine.
If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
Bill
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
you
> are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
> pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
> cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
> cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
> first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> might think.
>
> The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
knowlege
> you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
you
> turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> yourself.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > between when it was done and when I asked.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > >
> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > >
> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > >
> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> pistons.
> >
> >
>
>
I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and my
parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when I
park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to be
real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far (installed
the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is against
me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would be
too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
transport for an engine.
If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
Bill
"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
you
> are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you can
> pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist doesn't
> cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that extra
> cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating at
> first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> might think.
>
> The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
knowlege
> you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
you
> turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> yourself.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to determine
> > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > between when it was done and when I asked.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to find
> > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > >
> > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > >
> > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > >
> > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> pistons.
> >
> >
>
>
#98
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
Understood. I am a recovering apartment dweller myself, and I can relate
with having done a heck of a lot more in my parking lot than I probably
should have.
Someone here ought to volunteer a little driveway time and help you out.
Mine is available, if you wanna come east.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1pecu$1k1kgi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and
my
> parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when
I
> park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to
be
> real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
> me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far
(installed
> the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
> sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is
against
> me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would
be
> too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
> transport for an engine.
>
> If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
> you
> > are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> > rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you
can
> > pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist
doesn't
> > cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that
extra
> > cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating
at
> > first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> > might think.
> >
> > The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
> knowlege
> > you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
> you
> > turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> > gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> > yourself.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to
determine
> > > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > > between when it was done and when I asked.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to
find
> > > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > > >
> > > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > > >
> > > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > > >
> > > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> > pistons.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
with having done a heck of a lot more in my parking lot than I probably
should have.
Someone here ought to volunteer a little driveway time and help you out.
Mine is available, if you wanna come east.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1pecu$1k1kgi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and
my
> parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when
I
> park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to
be
> real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
> me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far
(installed
> the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
> sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is
against
> me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would
be
> too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
> transport for an engine.
>
> If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
> you
> > are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> > rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you
can
> > pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist
doesn't
> > cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that
extra
> > cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating
at
> > first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> > might think.
> >
> > The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
> knowlege
> > you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
> you
> > turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> > gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> > yourself.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to
determine
> > > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > > between when it was done and when I asked.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to
find
> > > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > > >
> > > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > > >
> > > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > > >
> > > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> > pistons.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#99
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
Understood. I am a recovering apartment dweller myself, and I can relate
with having done a heck of a lot more in my parking lot than I probably
should have.
Someone here ought to volunteer a little driveway time and help you out.
Mine is available, if you wanna come east.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1pecu$1k1kgi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and
my
> parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when
I
> park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to
be
> real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
> me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far
(installed
> the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
> sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is
against
> me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would
be
> too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
> transport for an engine.
>
> If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
> you
> > are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> > rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you
can
> > pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist
doesn't
> > cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that
extra
> > cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating
at
> > first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> > might think.
> >
> > The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
> knowlege
> > you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
> you
> > turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> > gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> > yourself.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to
determine
> > > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > > between when it was done and when I asked.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to
find
> > > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > > >
> > > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > > >
> > > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > > >
> > > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> > pistons.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
with having done a heck of a lot more in my parking lot than I probably
should have.
Someone here ought to volunteer a little driveway time and help you out.
Mine is available, if you wanna come east.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1pecu$1k1kgi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and
my
> parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when
I
> park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to
be
> real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
> me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far
(installed
> the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
> sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is
against
> me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would
be
> too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
> transport for an engine.
>
> If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
> you
> > are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> > rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you
can
> > pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist
doesn't
> > cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that
extra
> > cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating
at
> > first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> > might think.
> >
> > The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
> knowlege
> > you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
> you
> > turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> > gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> > yourself.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to
determine
> > > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > > between when it was done and when I asked.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to
find
> > > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > > >
> > > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > > >
> > > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > > >
> > > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> > pistons.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#100
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Discovered Bore
Understood. I am a recovering apartment dweller myself, and I can relate
with having done a heck of a lot more in my parking lot than I probably
should have.
Someone here ought to volunteer a little driveway time and help you out.
Mine is available, if you wanna come east.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1pecu$1k1kgi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and
my
> parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when
I
> park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to
be
> real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
> me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far
(installed
> the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
> sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is
against
> me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would
be
> too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
> transport for an engine.
>
> If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
> you
> > are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> > rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you
can
> > pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist
doesn't
> > cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that
extra
> > cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating
at
> > first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> > might think.
> >
> > The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
> knowlege
> > you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
> you
> > turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> > gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> > yourself.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to
determine
> > > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > > between when it was done and when I asked.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to
find
> > > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > > >
> > > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > > >
> > > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > > >
> > > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> > pistons.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
with having done a heck of a lot more in my parking lot than I probably
should have.
Someone here ought to volunteer a little driveway time and help you out.
Mine is available, if you wanna come east.
Jerry
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1pecu$1k1kgi$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Thanks Jerry,
>
> I'm in a unique situation where I'm living in an apartment complex and
my
> parking space on the side of the building is pretty much out of view when
I
> park my other car behind it. I can do lesser stuff this way but I try to
be
> real quiet with ratchet wrenches and stuff so my appt manager can't detect
> me working on my jeep. Actually, I can't believe I got this far
(installed
> the MPI kit, put a 4" lift on it, dropped the gas tank and installed a new
> sender, pulled the head and now installing rings) but everything is
against
> me with installing an engine. I'm not opposed to it, just that it would
be
> too hard to conceal from my appt manager. Add to that I don't have a
> transport for an engine.
>
> If I owned my own home I'd be on it real quick.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:40400ad7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > There is lots of good advice here for you Bill. I don't know which way
> you
> > are leaning on this right now, but let me suggest this to you: get a
> > rebuilt engine from a reliable source, and put it in yourself. If you
can
> > pull a cylinder head, you can replace the engine. An engine hoist
doesn't
> > cost much to rent for a day, or weekend, and you can pocket all that
extra
> > cash instead of paying a mechanic to install it. It seems intimidating
at
> > first, but once you tear into it, it actually isn't as much work as you
> > might think.
> >
> > The plus side, beyond the obvious cash advantage, is the tremendous
> knowlege
> > you will gain by having done it yourself, and the job satisfaction when
> you
> > turn the key and know that YOU made it fire. There may not be any more
> > gratifying sound than that of a newly-fired engine which you installed
> > yourself.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1mmnd$1jbtk1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > I contacted the shop closely after I bought the jeep to try to
determine
> > > what they did and they couldn't give me an answer because of the time
> > > between when it was done and when I asked.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:403E9B6D.FF814819@sympatico.ca...
> > > > I would 'highly' recommend you get a hold of the shop and try to
find
> > > > out exactly what they did to it and what the invoices mean.
> > > >
> > > > I saw a 'generic' rebuilt engine quote.
> > > >
> > > > They only fix what is messed up on those kind of quotes....
> > > >
> > > > Still looks like a gas washed cylinder to me though...
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > William Oliveri wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like my pistons are .40 over. There's a 40 on top of the
> > pistons.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>