DougW

HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> Troy wrote:
>> Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
>> aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
>> etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all
>> that money.
>
> Headers are not crap - they will add HP along with better air flow from the
> k&n. I would not buy a tb spacer - they are crap! Don't know about the
> chip...

chips are "ok" if your willing to run only high octane fuel. The plus side is
the modification is reversable and installation is usually fairly easy.

As for the header, for the I6 it's just plain cheaper than buying a new
Jeep one to replace the POS that brakes due to poor design.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

DougW

HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> Troy wrote:
>> Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
>> aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
>> etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all
>> that money.
>
> Headers are not crap - they will add HP along with better air flow from the
> k&n. I would not buy a tb spacer - they are crap! Don't know about the
> chip...

chips are "ok" if your willing to run only high octane fuel. The plus side is
the modification is reversable and installation is usually fairly easy.

As for the header, for the I6 it's just plain cheaper than buying a new
Jeep one to replace the POS that brakes due to poor design.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

DougW

HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> Troy wrote:
>> Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
>> aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
>> etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all
>> that money.
>
> Headers are not crap - they will add HP along with better air flow from the
> k&n. I would not buy a tb spacer - they are crap! Don't know about the
> chip...

chips are "ok" if your willing to run only high octane fuel. The plus side is
the modification is reversable and installation is usually fairly easy.

As for the header, for the I6 it's just plain cheaper than buying a new
Jeep one to replace the POS that brakes due to poor design.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Jeff Strickland

You said you put on 4" of lift, I assume you also have oversized tires. If I
am right, what you need is new gears, not a box full of chips, airtubes, and
other stuff.

Yes, the flex can pull the brake lines out.




"Troy" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:L9pFd.5334$KJ2.1036@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Um, just checking here... I have a 4 inch lift, and stock brake lines.
> If I disconnect the swaybar, is there a chance that the flex will pull the
> brake lines out? (2001 TJ)
>
> I see alot of those K&N airfilter kits on jeeps. When I go muddin', it's
> ALL OVER the engine compartment. Do those guys go muddin with those
> filters? If so, how do you keep the mud off/out of the filter?!?!
>
> Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
> aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
> etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all
> that money.
>
> Is there anything simple or cheap (ya right huh?) that can be done to the
> 4.0 engine for performance? Not that I'm in need of the power, I think
> it's the best already. The only thing I've done is add a flowmaster 40
> muffler to the thing, I love that sound.
>
> Troy
>

Jeff Strickland

You said you put on 4" of lift, I assume you also have oversized tires. If I
am right, what you need is new gears, not a box full of chips, airtubes, and
other stuff.

Yes, the flex can pull the brake lines out.




"Troy" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:L9pFd.5334$KJ2.1036@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Um, just checking here... I have a 4 inch lift, and stock brake lines.
> If I disconnect the swaybar, is there a chance that the flex will pull the
> brake lines out? (2001 TJ)
>
> I see alot of those K&N airfilter kits on jeeps. When I go muddin', it's
> ALL OVER the engine compartment. Do those guys go muddin with those
> filters? If so, how do you keep the mud off/out of the filter?!?!
>
> Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
> aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
> etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all
> that money.
>
> Is there anything simple or cheap (ya right huh?) that can be done to the
> 4.0 engine for performance? Not that I'm in need of the power, I think
> it's the best already. The only thing I've done is add a flowmaster 40
> muffler to the thing, I love that sound.
>
> Troy
>

Jeff Strickland

You said you put on 4" of lift, I assume you also have oversized tires. If I
am right, what you need is new gears, not a box full of chips, airtubes, and
other stuff.

Yes, the flex can pull the brake lines out.




"Troy" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:L9pFd.5334$KJ2.1036@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Um, just checking here... I have a 4 inch lift, and stock brake lines.
> If I disconnect the swaybar, is there a chance that the flex will pull the
> brake lines out? (2001 TJ)
>
> I see alot of those K&N airfilter kits on jeeps. When I go muddin', it's
> ALL OVER the engine compartment. Do those guys go muddin with those
> filters? If so, how do you keep the mud off/out of the filter?!?!
>
> Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
> aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
> etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all
> that money.
>
> Is there anything simple or cheap (ya right huh?) that can be done to the
> 4.0 engine for performance? Not that I'm in need of the power, I think
> it's the best already. The only thing I've done is add a flowmaster 40
> muffler to the thing, I love that sound.
>
> Troy
>

Dean

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:35 GMT, "Troy" <no@spam.please> wrote:

>Um, just checking here... I have a 4 inch lift, and stock brake lines. If
>I disconnect the swaybar, is there a chance that the flex will pull the
>brake lines out? (2001 TJ)

My TJ with a 4 inch lift absolutely requires the longer brake lines.

>I see alot of those K&N airfilter kits on jeeps. When I go muddin', it's
>ALL OVER the engine compartment. Do those guys go muddin with those
>filters? If so, how do you keep the mud off/out of the filter?!?!

I have a K&N in the stock air box, but after seeing this link I am seriously
thinking about removing it.

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

(Link comes courtesy of Daniel Stern in rec.autos.tech)

>Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
>aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
>etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all that
>money.
>
>Is there anything simple or cheap (ya right huh?) that can be done to the
>4.0 engine for performance? Not that I'm in need of the power, I think it's
>the best already. The only thing I've done is add a flowmaster 40 muffler
>to the thing, I love that sound.

Snake oil, it's all snake oil. Now something proven to improve off road
performance is putting lower gears in your diff. Another good ones are lockers,
lifts, better tires, and winches are good, too. ;-) Some guys have put
superchargers on with good results. (I'd worry about added complexity and
engine life) But, none of them are simple or cheap.

People still look for the holly grail of a simple and cheap mod that will give a
40% increase in HP. I'm glad they do, cause who knows they may find it. But
until that day I'm keeping my money for that front locker I've been wanting.

Dean

Dean

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:35 GMT, "Troy" <no@spam.please> wrote:

>Um, just checking here... I have a 4 inch lift, and stock brake lines. If
>I disconnect the swaybar, is there a chance that the flex will pull the
>brake lines out? (2001 TJ)

My TJ with a 4 inch lift absolutely requires the longer brake lines.

>I see alot of those K&N airfilter kits on jeeps. When I go muddin', it's
>ALL OVER the engine compartment. Do those guys go muddin with those
>filters? If so, how do you keep the mud off/out of the filter?!?!

I have a K&N in the stock air box, but after seeing this link I am seriously
thinking about removing it.

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

(Link comes courtesy of Daniel Stern in rec.autos.tech)

>Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
>aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
>etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all that
>money.
>
>Is there anything simple or cheap (ya right huh?) that can be done to the
>4.0 engine for performance? Not that I'm in need of the power, I think it's
>the best already. The only thing I've done is add a flowmaster 40 muffler
>to the thing, I love that sound.

Snake oil, it's all snake oil. Now something proven to improve off road
performance is putting lower gears in your diff. Another good ones are lockers,
lifts, better tires, and winches are good, too. ;-) Some guys have put
superchargers on with good results. (I'd worry about added complexity and
engine life) But, none of them are simple or cheap.

People still look for the holly grail of a simple and cheap mod that will give a
40% increase in HP. I'm glad they do, cause who knows they may find it. But
until that day I'm keeping my money for that front locker I've been wanting.

Dean

Dean

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:10:35 GMT, "Troy" <no@spam.please> wrote:

>Um, just checking here... I have a 4 inch lift, and stock brake lines. If
>I disconnect the swaybar, is there a chance that the flex will pull the
>brake lines out? (2001 TJ)

My TJ with a 4 inch lift absolutely requires the longer brake lines.

>I see alot of those K&N airfilter kits on jeeps. When I go muddin', it's
>ALL OVER the engine compartment. Do those guys go muddin with those
>filters? If so, how do you keep the mud off/out of the filter?!?!

I have a K&N in the stock air box, but after seeing this link I am seriously
thinking about removing it.

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

(Link comes courtesy of Daniel Stern in rec.autos.tech)

>Finally, after looking over this newsgroup... I take it that all those
>aftermarket engine mods (k&n, headers, throttle body spacers, jet chips,
>etc) are crap? Unless you added ALL of them up together, and spent all that
>money.
>
>Is there anything simple or cheap (ya right huh?) that can be done to the
>4.0 engine for performance? Not that I'm in need of the power, I think it's
>the best already. The only thing I've done is add a flowmaster 40 muffler
>to the thing, I love that sound.

Snake oil, it's all snake oil. Now something proven to improve off road
performance is putting lower gears in your diff. Another good ones are lockers,
lifts, better tires, and winches are good, too. ;-) Some guys have put
superchargers on with good results. (I'd worry about added complexity and
engine life) But, none of them are simple or cheap.

People still look for the holly grail of a simple and cheap mod that will give a
40% increase in HP. I'm glad they do, cause who knows they may find it. But
until that day I'm keeping my money for that front locker I've been wanting.

Dean

Troy

Wow, that link was the kind of information I was looking for... someone who
did a test on that sort of thing like filtration and all.

Well I already have lsd's and gearing done, so I guess I'm good then. Maybe
steeper gearing later on in the future, I have 33x12.50's with 4.10 gears.
I read about alot of people who ride with 4.56's and that tire size, but I
haven't ridden in a jeep with that setup yet, so I don't know how the top
end speed is...

How many rpms are you at when going 70mph in 5th gear with 4.56 and 33's?
(6cyl TJ)

Troy