You can't wear them on the street because you can't do safe shoulder
checks with them on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how many people would react positively to 6 point belt systems.
> They do hold you securely though..
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-MRzNEqKXjDrs@anon.none.net...
> >I found myself wondering about things like seatbelts one day while
> > strapping into a jet fighter. 4 inch belts, inertia reel locks that
> > really worked - took several minutes to get everything snugged up
> > right. That was not too long after seat belts had become mandatory
> > for new autos and trucks, long before the shoulder harness was
> > required, and many, many people ignored them as a nuisance or even
> > dangerous. The clincher was looking at the number of times I would
> > need the a/c belts versus the number of times I would need the auto
> > belts - and the corresponding number of funerals I was attending for
> > friends killed in each tpye of vehicle. Hard to argue with
> > overwhelming numbers.
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:02 UTC "Dave Milne"
> > <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Must be, it was dumb of me going offroad without wearing a seatbelt, no
> >> question !
> >>
> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-lzztH5xX7uPV@anon.none.net...
> >> > When I was in high school (yes, they had them even in those ancient
> >> > days) we ran around in a beatup '48 MB. Someone had built a metal
> >> > half cab for it and there were two rather noticable 'bumps' in the top
> >> > - one over each seat - from similar excursions. Had it been a rag
> >> > top, there would probably have been holes there. Is stupidity a
> >> > survival trait for teenagers??
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:04:40 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > heh, I remember driving an "extremely rural road" when I was 16
> >> > > without
> >> a
> >> > > seatbelt ; bounced myself into the passenger seat... (Landy's had
> >> slippery
> >> > > bench seats)
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> > > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:fGX1f.10986$vw6.7437@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > >
> >> > > > My neighbor lives 1/8 mile from us, on an extremely rural road that
> >> only
> >> > > has
> >> > > > four other houses on it.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea

 

You can't wear them on the street because you can't do safe shoulder
checks with them on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how many people would react positively to 6 point belt systems.
> They do hold you securely though..
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-MRzNEqKXjDrs@anon.none.net...
> >I found myself wondering about things like seatbelts one day while
> > strapping into a jet fighter. 4 inch belts, inertia reel locks that
> > really worked - took several minutes to get everything snugged up
> > right. That was not too long after seat belts had become mandatory
> > for new autos and trucks, long before the shoulder harness was
> > required, and many, many people ignored them as a nuisance or even
> > dangerous. The clincher was looking at the number of times I would
> > need the a/c belts versus the number of times I would need the auto
> > belts - and the corresponding number of funerals I was attending for
> > friends killed in each tpye of vehicle. Hard to argue with
> > overwhelming numbers.
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:02 UTC "Dave Milne"
> > <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Must be, it was dumb of me going offroad without wearing a seatbelt, no
> >> question !
> >>
> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >>
> >> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-lzztH5xX7uPV@anon.none.net...
> >> > When I was in high school (yes, they had them even in those ancient
> >> > days) we ran around in a beatup '48 MB. Someone had built a metal
> >> > half cab for it and there were two rather noticable 'bumps' in the top
> >> > - one over each seat - from similar excursions. Had it been a rag
> >> > top, there would probably have been holes there. Is stupidity a
> >> > survival trait for teenagers??
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:04:40 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > heh, I remember driving an "extremely rural road" when I was 16
> >> > > without
> >> a
> >> > > seatbelt ; bounced myself into the passenger seat... (Landy's had
> >> slippery
> >> > > bench seats)
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >> > > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:fGX1f.10986$vw6.7437@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > >
> >> > > > My neighbor lives 1/8 mile from us, on an extremely rural road that
> >> only
> >> > > has
> >> > > > four other houses on it.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will Honea
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea

 

I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to travel
through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever seen a
video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434B6BC2.CFD4E505@***.net...
> A thirty year old Swedish chart show the deaths virtually unchanged
> with the use of seat belts: http://www.----------.com/temp/seatBelt.jpg
> I use seat belts.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Did here.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

 

I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to travel
through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever seen a
video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434B6BC2.CFD4E505@***.net...
> A thirty year old Swedish chart show the deaths virtually unchanged
> with the use of seat belts: http://www.----------.com/temp/seatBelt.jpg
> I use seat belts.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Did here.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

 

I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to travel
through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever seen a
video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434B6BC2.CFD4E505@***.net...
> A thirty year old Swedish chart show the deaths virtually unchanged
> with the use of seat belts: http://www.----------.com/temp/seatBelt.jpg
> I use seat belts.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Did here.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

 

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
:I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
: back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to travel
: through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever seen
a
: video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..
:
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Funny you would mention that.
I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me just
know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide between
walking and wearing it.

S

 

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
:I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
: back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to travel
: through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever seen
a
: video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..
:
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Funny you would mention that.
I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me just
know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide between
walking and wearing it.

S

 

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
:I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
: back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to travel
: through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever seen
a
: video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..
:
: Dave Milne, Scotland
: '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Funny you would mention that.
I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me just
know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide between
walking and wearing it.

S

 

woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
> : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to
travel
> : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever
seen
> a
> : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Funny you would mention that.
> I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me
just
> know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
between
> walking and wearing it.
>
> S
>
>

 

woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want the
> : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to
travel
> : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever
seen
> a
> : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will agree..
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Funny you would mention that.
> I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me
just
> know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
between
> walking and wearing it.
>
> S
>
>