Hi Earle,
I can tell you my '89 T-Bird seat belt retractor pulls tight and
locks on full throttle.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have seen the results. Ouch! We had a hell of a time, figuring out who
> had been sitting in the back seat, out of three possible candidates. It
> turns out that the guy who was most messed up, had been in the middle of the
> back seat. This is theoretically the safest place in a passenger car, but
> not unless you are buckled in...
>
> On the subject of seat belts, has anyone seen a cigar-shaped object,
> attached to the side of a seat belt retractor? This contains something very
> much like a high-powered center-fire rifle cartridge, which forcibly
> retracts the seat belt in cases of sudden vehicle deceleration. It does it
> quickly too. I saw a video of one in action, and it is every bit as scary
> as an air bag or even a collision.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:SJR2f.126877$G8.112153@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
> > It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
> > responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> > news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want
> the
> > > : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to
> > travel
> > > : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever
> > seen
> > > a
> > > : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will
> agree..
> > > :
> > > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny you would mention that.
> > > I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me
> > just
> > > know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
> > between
> > > walking and wearing it.
> > >
> > > S
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

 

Hi Earle,
I can tell you my '89 T-Bird seat belt retractor pulls tight and
locks on full throttle.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have seen the results. Ouch! We had a hell of a time, figuring out who
> had been sitting in the back seat, out of three possible candidates. It
> turns out that the guy who was most messed up, had been in the middle of the
> back seat. This is theoretically the safest place in a passenger car, but
> not unless you are buckled in...
>
> On the subject of seat belts, has anyone seen a cigar-shaped object,
> attached to the side of a seat belt retractor? This contains something very
> much like a high-powered center-fire rifle cartridge, which forcibly
> retracts the seat belt in cases of sudden vehicle deceleration. It does it
> quickly too. I saw a video of one in action, and it is every bit as scary
> as an air bag or even a collision.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:SJR2f.126877$G8.112153@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
> > It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
> > responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> > news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want
> the
> > > : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to
> > travel
> > > : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever
> > seen
> > > a
> > > : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will
> agree..
> > > :
> > > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny you would mention that.
> > > I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me
> > just
> > > know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
> > between
> > > walking and wearing it.
> > >
> > > S
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

 

Hi Earle,
I can tell you my '89 T-Bird seat belt retractor pulls tight and
locks on full throttle.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I have seen the results. Ouch! We had a hell of a time, figuring out who
> had been sitting in the back seat, out of three possible candidates. It
> turns out that the guy who was most messed up, had been in the middle of the
> back seat. This is theoretically the safest place in a passenger car, but
> not unless you are buckled in...
>
> On the subject of seat belts, has anyone seen a cigar-shaped object,
> attached to the side of a seat belt retractor? This contains something very
> much like a high-powered center-fire rifle cartridge, which forcibly
> retracts the seat belt in cases of sudden vehicle deceleration. It does it
> quickly too. I saw a video of one in action, and it is every bit as scary
> as an air bag or even a collision.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:SJR2f.126877$G8.112153@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
> > It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
> > responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> > news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly want
> the
> > > : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting to
> > travel
> > > : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have ever
> > seen
> > > a
> > > : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will
> agree..
> > > :
> > > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny you would mention that.
> > > I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to me
> > just
> > > know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
> > between
> > > walking and wearing it.
> > >
> > > S
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

 

Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
your fire video tops anything that I have seen.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434C0C46.FA83D2BA@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I can tell you my '89 T-Bird seat belt retractor pulls tight and
> locks on full throttle.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have seen the results. Ouch! We had a hell of a time, figuring out
who
> > had been sitting in the back seat, out of three possible candidates. It
> > turns out that the guy who was most messed up, had been in the middle of
the
> > back seat. This is theoretically the safest place in a passenger car,
but
> > not unless you are buckled in...
> >
> > On the subject of seat belts, has anyone seen a cigar-shaped object,
> > attached to the side of a seat belt retractor? This contains something
very
> > much like a high-powered center-fire rifle cartridge, which forcibly
> > retracts the seat belt in cases of sudden vehicle deceleration. It does
it
> > quickly too. I saw a video of one in action, and it is every bit as
scary
> > as an air bag or even a collision.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:SJR2f.126877$G8.112153@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
> > > It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
> > > responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> > > news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > > :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly
want
> > the
> > > > : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting
to
> > > travel
> > > > : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have
ever
> > > seen
> > > > a
> > > > : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will
> > agree..
> > > > :
> > > > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Funny you would mention that.
> > > > I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to
me
> > > just
> > > > know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
> > > between
> > > > walking and wearing it.
> > > >
> > > > S
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

 

Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
your fire video tops anything that I have seen.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434C0C46.FA83D2BA@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I can tell you my '89 T-Bird seat belt retractor pulls tight and
> locks on full throttle.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have seen the results. Ouch! We had a hell of a time, figuring out
who
> > had been sitting in the back seat, out of three possible candidates. It
> > turns out that the guy who was most messed up, had been in the middle of
the
> > back seat. This is theoretically the safest place in a passenger car,
but
> > not unless you are buckled in...
> >
> > On the subject of seat belts, has anyone seen a cigar-shaped object,
> > attached to the side of a seat belt retractor? This contains something
very
> > much like a high-powered center-fire rifle cartridge, which forcibly
> > retracts the seat belt in cases of sudden vehicle deceleration. It does
it
> > quickly too. I saw a video of one in action, and it is every bit as
scary
> > as an air bag or even a collision.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:SJR2f.126877$G8.112153@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
> > > It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
> > > responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> > > news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > > :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly
want
> > the
> > > > : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting
to
> > > travel
> > > > : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have
ever
> > > seen
> > > > a
> > > > : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will
> > agree..
> > > > :
> > > > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Funny you would mention that.
> > > > I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to
me
> > > just
> > > > know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
> > > between
> > > > walking and wearing it.
> > > >
> > > > S
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

 

Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
your fire video tops anything that I have seen.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434C0C46.FA83D2BA@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I can tell you my '89 T-Bird seat belt retractor pulls tight and
> locks on full throttle.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I have seen the results. Ouch! We had a hell of a time, figuring out
who
> > had been sitting in the back seat, out of three possible candidates. It
> > turns out that the guy who was most messed up, had been in the middle of
the
> > back seat. This is theoretically the safest place in a passenger car,
but
> > not unless you are buckled in...
> >
> > On the subject of seat belts, has anyone seen a cigar-shaped object,
> > attached to the side of a seat belt retractor? This contains something
very
> > much like a high-powered center-fire rifle cartridge, which forcibly
> > retracts the seat belt in cases of sudden vehicle deceleration. It does
it
> > quickly too. I saw a video of one in action, and it is every bit as
scary
> > as an air bag or even a collision.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:SJR2f.126877$G8.112153@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > woops, I said "two" instead of "too". Shocking grammatical lapse.
> > > It's now the law here also, although I don't think it's the drivers
> > > responsibility if the passengers don't buckle.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > > "SVTKate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> > > news:_sR2f.13080$QE1.9910@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:k3R2f.126826$G8.126299@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > > > :I make rear seat passengers wear them two - I don't particularly
want
> > the
> > > > : back of my skull broken open by a rear seat passenger attempting
to
> > > travel
> > > > : through it on route out the windscreen... Don't know if you have
ever
> > > seen
> > > > a
> > > > : video of it happening, but it is very messy. I'm sure Earle will
> > agree..
> > > > :
> > > > : Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Funny you would mention that.
> > > > I do a seatbelt check when everyone gets in. Those that are used to
me
> > > just
> > > > know the look, others have bowed their necks and have had to decide
> > > between
> > > > walking and wearing it.
> > > >
> > > > S
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

 

Yes, people fight for life rather than taking a couple of deep
breathes and suffocate.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
> contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
> you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
> bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
> this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
> you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
> your fire video tops anything that I have seen.
>
> Earle

 

Yes, people fight for life rather than taking a couple of deep
breathes and suffocate.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
> contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
> you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
> bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
> this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
> you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
> your fire video tops anything that I have seen.
>
> Earle

 

Yes, people fight for life rather than taking a couple of deep
breathes and suffocate.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
> contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
> you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
> bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
> this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
> you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
> your fire video tops anything that I have seen.
>
> Earle

 

This is a good design
<http://www.streichers.com/Catalog/Pr...roduct_detail&
product_id=300>. We have a couple of these in the ambulance, plus spring
loaded center punches for windows, and lots of scissors. Some people like
knives, but the trouble with a knife, is that you don't have any built-in
leverage, like the seat belt tool or scissors. Also, it has a pointy end,
that merits some respect.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:434C1C41.CFB44938@***.net...
> Yes, people fight for life rather than taking a couple of deep
> breathes and suffocate.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
> > contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last
time
> > you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that
cartridge,
> > bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think
that
> > this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to
pull
> > you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard.
But
> > your fire video tops anything that I have seen.
> >
> > Earle
>