We were told in emergency first aid training not to lift anything off
someone if it has been on them for more than 10 minutes, or the toxins
release will kill the patient shortly after; instead wait for the paramedics
with proper training and drugs.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:434d60af$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> On the example of lifting a car off a person, it has been done, but if you
> don't have extrication training, that car might not move the way you think
> it should. Then you could have two people hurt, instead of one.
>
> Earle

 

We were told in emergency first aid training not to lift anything off
someone if it has been on them for more than 10 minutes, or the toxins
release will kill the patient shortly after; instead wait for the paramedics
with proper training and drugs.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:434d60af$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> On the example of lifting a car off a person, it has been done, but if you
> don't have extrication training, that car might not move the way you think
> it should. Then you could have two people hurt, instead of one.
>
> Earle

 

We were told in emergency first aid training not to lift anything off
someone if it has been on them for more than 10 minutes, or the toxins
release will kill the patient shortly after; instead wait for the paramedics
with proper training and drugs.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:434d60af$1_3@alt.athenanews.com...
> On the example of lifting a car off a person, it has been done, but if you
> don't have extrication training, that car might not move the way you think
> it should. Then you could have two people hurt, instead of one.
>
> Earle

 

But I've seen pulling a injured person from a car wrench on the
railway tracks just before a train hit it, saving that person. I've also
witnessed people roll a convertible back on to it's side to save the
people screaming underneath, onto a dead (?) man's head.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Retiredff wrote:
>
> Especially the 'every wreck is going to blow up and I have to drag the
> occupants out' syndrome (courtesy of TV & movies).

 

But I've seen pulling a injured person from a car wrench on the
railway tracks just before a train hit it, saving that person. I've also
witnessed people roll a convertible back on to it's side to save the
people screaming underneath, onto a dead (?) man's head.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Retiredff wrote:
>
> Especially the 'every wreck is going to blow up and I have to drag the
> occupants out' syndrome (courtesy of TV & movies).

 

But I've seen pulling a injured person from a car wrench on the
railway tracks just before a train hit it, saving that person. I've also
witnessed people roll a convertible back on to it's side to save the
people screaming underneath, onto a dead (?) man's head.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Retiredff wrote:
>
> Especially the 'every wreck is going to blow up and I have to drag the
> occupants out' syndrome (courtesy of TV & movies).

 

Hi Dave,
Yup, once a tourniquet has been applied that limb is gone.
It is hard to lesson to someone screaming for their life, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> We were told in emergency first aid training not to lift anything off
> someone if it has been on them for more than 10 minutes, or the toxins
> release will kill the patient shortly after; instead wait for the paramedics
> with proper training and drugs.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

 

Hi Dave,
Yup, once a tourniquet has been applied that limb is gone.
It is hard to lesson to someone screaming for their life, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> We were told in emergency first aid training not to lift anything off
> someone if it has been on them for more than 10 minutes, or the toxins
> release will kill the patient shortly after; instead wait for the paramedics
> with proper training and drugs.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

 

Hi Dave,
Yup, once a tourniquet has been applied that limb is gone.
It is hard to lesson to someone screaming for their life, though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> We were told in emergency first aid training not to lift anything off
> someone if it has been on them for more than 10 minutes, or the toxins
> release will kill the patient shortly after; instead wait for the paramedics
> with proper training and drugs.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

 

it is a programmable option and it works with the seat belt lite on the dash which
can not be turned off and the fed's required both with the chime being the
option

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Yes, people fight for life rather than taking a couple of deep
> breathes and suffocate.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Not nearly as fast as one of these things would. They are one-shot, and
> > contain something very much like a rifle cartridge. Remember the last time
> > you fired a hunting rifle? Picture all of the energy from that cartridge,
> > bullet end too, channeled into tightening your seat belt. If you think that
> > this could be dangerous, it is. One of the reasons they use it, is to pull
> > you away from the expanding air bag, which could smack you pretty hard. But
> > your fire video tops anything that I have seen.
> >
> > Earle