Ewan,

Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
their recommended vehicles.

BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)

Thanks!

Mark

Ewan Scott wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>>
>
> Mine's a 2.5 CRD and I get just over 30mpg average.
>
> Can't say much more than that, except that in die-hard Land Rover
> Country there are quite a few around. Mine's a 2002 model but it only
> has 24,000 on the clock so feels like new still, so cannot comment on
> longevity, but I can't see any reason why it would be any worse than
> other Jeeps.
>
> Ewan Scott

 

Ewan,

Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
their recommended vehicles.

BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)

Thanks!

Mark

Ewan Scott wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>>
>
> Mine's a 2.5 CRD and I get just over 30mpg average.
>
> Can't say much more than that, except that in die-hard Land Rover
> Country there are quite a few around. Mine's a 2002 model but it only
> has 24,000 on the clock so feels like new still, so cannot comment on
> longevity, but I can't see any reason why it would be any worse than
> other Jeeps.
>
> Ewan Scott

 

Ewan,

Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
their recommended vehicles.

BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)

Thanks!

Mark

Ewan Scott wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
>>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
>>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>>
>
> Mine's a 2.5 CRD and I get just over 30mpg average.
>
> Can't say much more than that, except that in die-hard Land Rover
> Country there are quite a few around. Mine's a 2002 model but it only
> has 24,000 on the clock so feels like new still, so cannot comment on
> longevity, but I can't see any reason why it would be any worse than
> other Jeeps.
>
> Ewan Scott

 

That's because we don't have many diesel engine small vehicles in the United
States, where the majority of posters live. (Canada is a protectorate of
the United States.) Many of the posters here too pretend to be great off
roaders, and the Liberty's IFS is theoretically a disadvantage off road.
Personally, I suspect that many of the vehicles you see in the United
States, with big, burly tires and lift kits like a set of six inch heels,
never leave pavement. Most of the comment in this thread has been exactly
what you will be, if you elect to buy a diesel Liberty, blowing smoke.

By the way, have you ever heard the Spanish try to pronounce "diesel"?

Earle

"Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
> Ewan,
>
> Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
> vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
> don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
> their recommended vehicles.
>
> BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> Ewan Scott wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
> >>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
> >>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
> >>
> >
> > Mine's a 2.5 CRD and I get just over 30mpg average.
> >
> > Can't say much more than that, except that in die-hard Land Rover
> > Country there are quite a few around. Mine's a 2002 model but it only
> > has 24,000 on the clock so feels like new still, so cannot comment on
> > longevity, but I can't see any reason why it would be any worse than
> > other Jeeps.
> >
> > Ewan Scott

 

That's because we don't have many diesel engine small vehicles in the United
States, where the majority of posters live. (Canada is a protectorate of
the United States.) Many of the posters here too pretend to be great off
roaders, and the Liberty's IFS is theoretically a disadvantage off road.
Personally, I suspect that many of the vehicles you see in the United
States, with big, burly tires and lift kits like a set of six inch heels,
never leave pavement. Most of the comment in this thread has been exactly
what you will be, if you elect to buy a diesel Liberty, blowing smoke.

By the way, have you ever heard the Spanish try to pronounce "diesel"?

Earle

"Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
> Ewan,
>
> Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
> vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
> don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
> their recommended vehicles.
>
> BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> Ewan Scott wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
> >>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
> >>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
> >>
> >
> > Mine's a 2.5 CRD and I get just over 30mpg average.
> >
> > Can't say much more than that, except that in die-hard Land Rover
> > Country there are quite a few around. Mine's a 2002 model but it only
> > has 24,000 on the clock so feels like new still, so cannot comment on
> > longevity, but I can't see any reason why it would be any worse than
> > other Jeeps.
> >
> > Ewan Scott

 

That's because we don't have many diesel engine small vehicles in the United
States, where the majority of posters live. (Canada is a protectorate of
the United States.) Many of the posters here too pretend to be great off
roaders, and the Liberty's IFS is theoretically a disadvantage off road.
Personally, I suspect that many of the vehicles you see in the United
States, with big, burly tires and lift kits like a set of six inch heels,
never leave pavement. Most of the comment in this thread has been exactly
what you will be, if you elect to buy a diesel Liberty, blowing smoke.

By the way, have you ever heard the Spanish try to pronounce "diesel"?

Earle

"Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
> Ewan,
>
> Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
> vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
> don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
> their recommended vehicles.
>
> BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> Ewan Scott wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really like?
> >>The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a while
> >>in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
> >>
> >
> > Mine's a 2.5 CRD and I get just over 30mpg average.
> >
> > Can't say much more than that, except that in die-hard Land Rover
> > Country there are quite a few around. Mine's a 2002 model but it only
> > has 24,000 on the clock so feels like new still, so cannot comment on
> > longevity, but I can't see any reason why it would be any worse than
> > other Jeeps.
> >
> > Ewan Scott

 

"Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
: Ewan,
:
: Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
: vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
: don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
: their recommended vehicles.
:
: BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
:
: Thanks!
:
: Mark
:

I was sitting in the doctor's office about three weeks ago and came upon an
article where they compared some SUVs.
There were 4 in the pack, one a Liberty, one the Exterra, another an Hummer
and the fourth some bohemian Honda I think.

The Liberty did not fare well. It came out second to last in the group. I
sure wish I could remember what mag it was in.

At the end of the day though all of the articles and reviews don't mean
squat.
They are based on one person's opinion, not yours. WHen I read the article,
I was driving a Liberty and I thought to myself "those guys have no idea
what the hell they are talking about when it comes to this vehicle."

If it is what you REALLY want then you should have it.

 

"Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
: Ewan,
:
: Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
: vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
: don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
: their recommended vehicles.
:
: BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
:
: Thanks!
:
: Mark
:

I was sitting in the doctor's office about three weeks ago and came upon an
article where they compared some SUVs.
There were 4 in the pack, one a Liberty, one the Exterra, another an Hummer
and the fourth some bohemian Honda I think.

The Liberty did not fare well. It came out second to last in the group. I
sure wish I could remember what mag it was in.

At the end of the day though all of the articles and reviews don't mean
squat.
They are based on one person's opinion, not yours. WHen I read the article,
I was driving a Liberty and I thought to myself "those guys have no idea
what the hell they are talking about when it comes to this vehicle."

If it is what you REALLY want then you should have it.

 

"Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
: Ewan,
:
: Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
: vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
: don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
: their recommended vehicles.
:
: BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
:
: Thanks!
:
: Mark
:

I was sitting in the doctor's office about three weeks ago and came upon an
article where they compared some SUVs.
There were 4 in the pack, one a Liberty, one the Exterra, another an Hummer
and the fourth some bohemian Honda I think.

The Liberty did not fare well. It came out second to last in the group. I
sure wish I could remember what mag it was in.

At the end of the day though all of the articles and reviews don't mean
squat.
They are based on one person's opinion, not yours. WHen I read the article,
I was driving a Liberty and I thought to myself "those guys have no idea
what the hell they are talking about when it comes to this vehicle."

If it is what you REALLY want then you should have it.

 

Kate,

These magazine guys have the advantage, that they haven't spent a pile
of --their own money-- on the vehicle in question. They can be assumed to
be relatively free from denial, and one can maybe trust them to be a little
more objective than you were about your baby. On the other hand, one knows
that they take bribes and all sorts of perks from the manufacturers, so it
all kind of evens out. Still, it --never-- hurts to seek a second opinion.
Of course, if my wife had listened to second opinions, she never would have
married me. (Most of the second opinions came from people, who have since
been divorced, some of them bitterly, for decades now. Heh, heh.)

Earle

"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:BhO_f.5984$x63.3484@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Mark Perrin" <ms.perrin@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:j6F_f.2176$WI1.1683@pd7tw2no...
> : Ewan,
> :
> : Another question: is there a consumer website in the UK that rates these
> : vehicles? We have one here called consumerreports.org but they say they
> : don't have enough data on the diesel liberty. The gas liberty is one of
> : their recommended vehicles.
> :
> : BTW, I had no idea this question would generate so much conversation ;-)
> :
> : Thanks!
> :
> : Mark
> :
>
> I was sitting in the doctor's office about three weeks ago and came upon
an
> article where they compared some SUVs.
> There were 4 in the pack, one a Liberty, one the Exterra, another an
Hummer
> and the fourth some bohemian Honda I think.
>
> The Liberty did not fare well. It came out second to last in the group. I
> sure wish I could remember what mag it was in.
>
> At the end of the day though all of the articles and reviews don't mean
> squat.
> They are based on one person's opinion, not yours. WHen I read the
article,
> I was driving a Liberty and I thought to myself "those guys have no idea
> what the hell they are talking about when it comes to this vehicle."
>
> If it is what you REALLY want then you should have it.
>
>
>