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Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
"he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
crankshaft."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree even
> fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> reference.
> Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> --
> jeff (the other one)
old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
"he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
crankshaft."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree even
> fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> reference.
> Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> --
> jeff (the other one)
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Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
imagination.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> crankshaft."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
even
> > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > reference.
> > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > --
> > jeff (the other one)
degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
imagination.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> crankshaft."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
even
> > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > reference.
> > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > --
> > jeff (the other one)
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Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
imagination.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> crankshaft."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
even
> > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > reference.
> > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > --
> > jeff (the other one)
degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
imagination.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> crankshaft."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
even
> > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > reference.
> > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > --
> > jeff (the other one)
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Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
imagination.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> crankshaft."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
even
> > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > reference.
> > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > --
> > jeff (the other one)
degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
imagination.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> crankshaft."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
even
> > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > reference.
> > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > --
> > jeff (the other one)
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Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
> degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
> small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
> which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > crankshaft."
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
> even
> > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > reference.
> > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > --
> > > jeff (the other one)
originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
> degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
> small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
> which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > crankshaft."
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
> even
> > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > reference.
> > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > --
> > > jeff (the other one)
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Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
> degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
> small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
> which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > crankshaft."
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
> even
> > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > reference.
> > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > --
> > > jeff (the other one)
originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
> degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
> small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
> which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > crankshaft."
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
> even
> > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > reference.
> > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > --
> > > jeff (the other one)
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Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
> degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
> small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
> which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > crankshaft."
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
> even
> > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > reference.
> > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > --
> > > jeff (the other one)
originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Lowe wrote:
>
> Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured a 90
> degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of the
> small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset crank
> which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's the
> > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and made
> > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it lost
> > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > crankshaft."
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These are
> > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60 degree
> even
> > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > reference.
> > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > --
> > > jeff (the other one)
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I give up!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Owe wrote:
>
> Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
> and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
> the old Buick design.
> Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
> two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
> design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
> Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
> and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
> an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
> are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
> degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
>
> So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> > Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> > originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> > odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
> a 90
> > > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
> the
> > > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
> crank
> > > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
> the
> > > imagination.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
> the
> > > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
> made
> > > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
> lost
> > > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > > crankshaft."
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
> are
> > > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
> degree
> > > even
> > > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > > reference.
> > > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > jeff (the other one)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Owe wrote:
>
> Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
> and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
> the old Buick design.
> Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
> two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
> design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
> Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
> and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
> an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
> are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
> degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
>
> So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> > Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> > originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> > odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
> a 90
> > > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
> the
> > > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
> crank
> > > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
> the
> > > imagination.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
> the
> > > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
> made
> > > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
> lost
> > > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > > crankshaft."
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
> are
> > > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
> degree
> > > even
> > > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > > reference.
> > > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > jeff (the other one)
Guest
Posts: n/a
I give up!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Owe wrote:
>
> Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
> and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
> the old Buick design.
> Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
> two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
> design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
> Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
> and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
> an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
> are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
> degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
>
> So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> > Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> > originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> > odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
> a 90
> > > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
> the
> > > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
> crank
> > > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
> the
> > > imagination.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
> the
> > > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
> made
> > > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
> lost
> > > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > > crankshaft."
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
> are
> > > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
> degree
> > > even
> > > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > > reference.
> > > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > jeff (the other one)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Owe wrote:
>
> Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
> and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
> the old Buick design.
> Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
> two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
> design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
> Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
> and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
> an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
> are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
> degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
>
> So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> > Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> > originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> > odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
> a 90
> > > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
> the
> > > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
> crank
> > > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
> the
> > > imagination.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
> the
> > > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
> made
> > > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
> lost
> > > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > > crankshaft."
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
> are
> > > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
> degree
> > > even
> > > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > > reference.
> > > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > jeff (the other one)
Guest
Posts: n/a
I give up!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Owe wrote:
>
> Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
> and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
> the old Buick design.
> Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
> two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
> design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
> Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
> and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
> an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
> are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
> degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
>
> So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> > Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> > originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> > odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
> a 90
> > > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
> the
> > > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
> crank
> > > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
> the
> > > imagination.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
> the
> > > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
> made
> > > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
> lost
> > > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > > crankshaft."
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
> are
> > > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
> degree
> > > even
> > > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > > reference.
> > > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > jeff (the other one)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Owe wrote:
>
> Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
> and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
> the old Buick design.
> Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
> two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
> design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
> Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
> and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
> an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
> are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
> degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
>
> So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> > Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> > originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> > odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > >
> > > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
> a 90
> > > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
> the
> > > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
> crank
> > > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
> the
> > > imagination.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
> the
> > > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
> made
> > > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
> lost
> > > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > > crankshaft."
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
> are
> > > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
> degree
> > > even
> > > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > > reference.
> > > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > > --
> > > > > jeff (the other one)


