did I get ripped off on this brake job?
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
>From: L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III ----------@***.net
>Date: 6/16/04 8:20 PM EST
>Message-id: <40D0F1DB.5516B211@***.net>
>
> It's kind of like on the job training, you're fifties miles from no
>where and a wheel falls off.
Is that some kind of sick joke? That happened to me a couple years ago. I
bought a 99 Monte Carlo. The next day, the left front wheel just came off while
turning a corner. It's not like the lug nuts came off, all the lugs broke! LOL
Needless to say, they got the car back. Oh yeah, I was only 30 miles from
home.
>Date: 6/16/04 8:20 PM EST
>Message-id: <40D0F1DB.5516B211@***.net>
>
> It's kind of like on the job training, you're fifties miles from no
>where and a wheel falls off.
Is that some kind of sick joke? That happened to me a couple years ago. I
bought a 99 Monte Carlo. The next day, the left front wheel just came off while
turning a corner. It's not like the lug nuts came off, all the lugs broke! LOL
Needless to say, they got the car back. Oh yeah, I was only 30 miles from
home.
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:49:23 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:49:23 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:49:23 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:49:23 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > high side.
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > and that's all there is to it.
> > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > Nothing else I can do now.
>
> I don't think you got took.
>
> I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> over paid by much if any.
>
> When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> tools.
I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
game you asked to be dealt into.
--
Will Honea
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
In article <40D0F8A3.5C75EA8F@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
In article <40D0F8A3.5C75EA8F@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
In article <40D0F8A3.5C75EA8F@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
In article <40D0F8A3.5C75EA8F@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Elflan wrote:
>>
>> > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
>> > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
>> > high side.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
>> and that's all there is to it.
>> I won't go back there again, ever.
>> Nothing else I can do now.
>
>I don't think you got took.
>
>I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
>over paid by much if any.
>
>When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
>work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
>tools.
I agree. It usually will take a half a day or more for an amateur without
air tools to do this work. You also have to understand the overhead involved
and the amount of convenience the customer is buying. I'm a DIYer myself
and I recently got a used compressor and some chinese air tools from
Harbor Freight. I've been wrenching by hand for quite a few years now and
the air tools are a new and different experience. You have to know when not
to use them or you can really screw things up.
Like the OP said, he needed it done and I don't think he has his own tools
and experience to do that job. So he has to either start buying tools and
learn how to do it on his own which could conflict with his employment or
trade in his vehicle once the warrany runs out so he won't have to deal
with this kind of expense but he will have to deal with another kind and
that is having a car payment.
It all equals out in the end.
--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail
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Re: did I get ripped off on this brake job?
Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:49:23 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Elflan wrote:
> > >
> > > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > > high side.
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > > and that's all there is to it.
> > > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > > Nothing else I can do now.
> >
> > I don't think you got took.
> >
> > I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> > over paid by much if any.
> >
> > When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> > work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> > tools.
>
> I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
> but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
> Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
> got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
> nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
> even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
> counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
> rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
> the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
> those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
>
> I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
> but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
> significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
> price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
> don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
> game you asked to be dealt into.
>
> --
> Will Honea
I live in the rust belt and when I see one caliper or wheel cylinder
gone bad I always recommend the person change both if it is possible to
do. (some are so rotted we just thank the stars we got one side dome
ok)
They went in in pairs, they were made in pairs, they usually wear out in
pairs.
The last two folks I helped with rear cylinders have both come back
within 6 months needing the other side done.
There are exceptions. I broke the bleeder screw on my CJ's front
caliper because I was in a rush to go bush running. Rather than mess
with it, I spent the $19.00 for a remanned one. The other side was
still in very fine shape.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:49:23 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Elflan wrote:
> > >
> > > > ground beef to smash out a few burgers, some buns, cheese and a few ears of
> > > > corn. The burger fixin's run about $20. I think your costs were a bit on the
> > > > high side.
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking the time to itemize these costs for me. I screwed up
> > > and that's all there is to it.
> > > I won't go back there again, ever.
> > > Nothing else I can do now.
> >
> > I don't think you got took.
> >
> > I don't think you got the cheapest job in town, but I don't think you
> > over paid by much if any.
> >
> > When you start messing with brake line fittings, it can be 'way' more
> > work and cost for a driveway job than a shop with torches and impact
> > tools.
>
> I'm with Mike - the job was a bit high when you figure the DIY costs,
> but it's not out of line with quotes I see from the franchise shops.
> Remember, they markup the parts by at least 50%. Heck, my daughter
> got quoted $150 for what they call a "friction reline" which means
> nothing more than swapping the pads and shoes - normally an hours work
> even if you figure in the time for a beer or two. And they are
> counting on being able to stick her for more when they try to turn the
> rotors/drums and find they are beyond turning limits. Then they find
> the "leaking" brake cylinder or a ridge in the caliper bore. Oh, and
> those hoses don't look very good. And while we're in there...
>
> I don't buy the "pairs" bit they fed you and the parts are a bit high
> but remember that a lot of mechanics (pardon me: technicians) get a
> significant fraction of their income from upsales over the comeon
> price so it buyer beware. It's surprising how many parts you really
> don't need if you pin them down to justify each part but that's the
> game you asked to be dealt into.
>
> --
> Will Honea
I live in the rust belt and when I see one caliper or wheel cylinder
gone bad I always recommend the person change both if it is possible to
do. (some are so rotted we just thank the stars we got one side dome
ok)
They went in in pairs, they were made in pairs, they usually wear out in
pairs.
The last two folks I helped with rear cylinders have both come back
within 6 months needing the other side done.
There are exceptions. I broke the bleeder screw on my CJ's front
caliper because I was in a rush to go bush running. Rather than mess
with it, I spent the $19.00 for a remanned one. The other side was
still in very fine shape.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's