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06-23-2005, 12:14 PM
#801
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
Doug,
Hopefully the fuse is the problem. Does anyone out there know which fuse
controls the illumination? I haven't noticed any other electrics
non-functional so I am assuming it is fused by itself.
-billy
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>
> Your describing an EL (Electro Luminescent) panel. Inside the black
> box shoud be a step-up transformer. Measure at the box for 12V on the
> input.
>
> Light reading
> http://www.talkingelectronics.com/Pr...itELine02.html
>
> Not so light reading.
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/gauges.htm
> (although it's for the instrument panel)
>
> Since EL is darn near indestructable I'd be checking the fuses first.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hopefully the fuse is the problem. Does anyone out there know which fuse
controls the illumination? I haven't noticed any other electrics
non-functional so I am assuming it is fused by itself.
-billy
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:V%wue.20608$mC.13008@okepread07...
> Billy Ray did pass the time by typing:
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>
> Your describing an EL (Electro Luminescent) panel. Inside the black
> box shoud be a step-up transformer. Measure at the box for 12V on the
> input.
>
> Light reading
> http://www.talkingelectronics.com/Pr...itELine02.html
>
> Not so light reading.
> http://www.wjjeeps.com/gauges.htm
> (although it's for the instrument panel)
>
> Since EL is darn near indestructable I'd be checking the fuses first.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
06-23-2005, 11:05 PM
#802
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s bad
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
06-23-2005, 11:05 PM
#803
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s bad
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
06-23-2005, 11:05 PM
#804
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s bad
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
06-23-2005, 11:05 PM
#805
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s bad
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Bill,
>
> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission or
> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so ago
> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no bulbs.
>
> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go to
> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at the
> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>
> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test procedure?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -billy
06-24-2005, 12:14 AM
#806
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
I checked the owners manual and it had no mention of this alone. There are,
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
06-24-2005, 12:14 AM
#807
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
I checked the owners manual and it had no mention of this alone. There are,
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
06-24-2005, 12:14 AM
#808
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
I checked the owners manual and it had no mention of this alone. There are,
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
06-24-2005, 12:14 AM
#809
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Re: 2002 WJ 4 liter automatic (Grand Cherokee)
I checked the owners manual and it had no mention of this alone. There are,
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
of course, fuses for the other interior lights and gauges but the only thing
that does not illuminate is the tranmission.& transfer case. I haven't been
able to find my multi-meter so I can't check the unit voltage till I borrow
one over the weekend.
-billy
"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42BB7873.A842FD95@cac.net...
> that plastic sheet is the lite and its simple if it does not lite up it;s
> bad
> and the only way to get it is with the rest of the shifter
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> In my '02 WJ 4 liter automatic I have no illumination on my transmission
>> or
>> transfer case shifters at night. I took the console apart a week or so
>> ago
>> and where I expected to find a couple burnt out bulbs there were no
>> bulbs.
>>
>> There is, however, a thin plastic sheet with 2 electric terminals that go
>> to
>> a small "black box" that then plugs into a part of the wiring harness at
>> the
>> aft end of the shifter mechanism..
>>
>> Is that plastic sheet the lighting unit? Is there a proper test
>> procedure?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -billy
>
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