Detroit Vs Japan
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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> Did you even read the rest of that post?
you said most dealership mechanics make $83,000 a year. here, ill quote
you:
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET
"Most mechanics turned around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from
8 AM to 5 PM, with an hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk =
$83,200 per year while working 40 hrs. a week."
to even suggest that a dealership mechanic is pulling in anywhere near $80k+
a year is laughable at best and downright sad on the other end. the rest of
your post/argument just doesnt matter. that you would further defend such an
assinine statement tells me everything i need to know. its just not worth
arguing with a brick wall. if this is what you believe then fine and well.
i do honestly wish you the best of luck in persuing your goal of being a
dealership mechanic.
as for what makes middle class, i suggest you get more familiar with
economics. $20 an hour is lower middle class. not that theres anything
wrong with lower middle class, but that is indeed where it falls.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:4331f$42992da8$422aaa8f$14202@FUSE.NET...
> Did you even read the rest of that post?
you said most dealership mechanics make $83,000 a year. here, ill quote
you:
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET
"Most mechanics turned around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from
8 AM to 5 PM, with an hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk =
$83,200 per year while working 40 hrs. a week."
to even suggest that a dealership mechanic is pulling in anywhere near $80k+
a year is laughable at best and downright sad on the other end. the rest of
your post/argument just doesnt matter. that you would further defend such an
assinine statement tells me everything i need to know. its just not worth
arguing with a brick wall. if this is what you believe then fine and well.
i do honestly wish you the best of luck in persuing your goal of being a
dealership mechanic.
as for what makes middle class, i suggest you get more familiar with
economics. $20 an hour is lower middle class. not that theres anything
wrong with lower middle class, but that is indeed where it falls.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#312
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:4331f$42992da8$422aaa8f$14202@FUSE.NET...
> Did you even read the rest of that post?
you said most dealership mechanics make $83,000 a year. here, ill quote
you:
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET
"Most mechanics turned around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from
8 AM to 5 PM, with an hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk =
$83,200 per year while working 40 hrs. a week."
to even suggest that a dealership mechanic is pulling in anywhere near $80k+
a year is laughable at best and downright sad on the other end. the rest of
your post/argument just doesnt matter. that you would further defend such an
assinine statement tells me everything i need to know. its just not worth
arguing with a brick wall. if this is what you believe then fine and well.
i do honestly wish you the best of luck in persuing your goal of being a
dealership mechanic.
as for what makes middle class, i suggest you get more familiar with
economics. $20 an hour is lower middle class. not that theres anything
wrong with lower middle class, but that is indeed where it falls.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:4331f$42992da8$422aaa8f$14202@FUSE.NET...
> Did you even read the rest of that post?
you said most dealership mechanics make $83,000 a year. here, ill quote
you:
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET
"Most mechanics turned around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from
8 AM to 5 PM, with an hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk =
$83,200 per year while working 40 hrs. a week."
to even suggest that a dealership mechanic is pulling in anywhere near $80k+
a year is laughable at best and downright sad on the other end. the rest of
your post/argument just doesnt matter. that you would further defend such an
assinine statement tells me everything i need to know. its just not worth
arguing with a brick wall. if this is what you believe then fine and well.
i do honestly wish you the best of luck in persuing your goal of being a
dealership mechanic.
as for what makes middle class, i suggest you get more familiar with
economics. $20 an hour is lower middle class. not that theres anything
wrong with lower middle class, but that is indeed where it falls.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#313
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:4331f$42992da8$422aaa8f$14202@FUSE.NET...
> Did you even read the rest of that post?
you said most dealership mechanics make $83,000 a year. here, ill quote
you:
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET
"Most mechanics turned around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from
8 AM to 5 PM, with an hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk =
$83,200 per year while working 40 hrs. a week."
to even suggest that a dealership mechanic is pulling in anywhere near $80k+
a year is laughable at best and downright sad on the other end. the rest of
your post/argument just doesnt matter. that you would further defend such an
assinine statement tells me everything i need to know. its just not worth
arguing with a brick wall. if this is what you believe then fine and well.
i do honestly wish you the best of luck in persuing your goal of being a
dealership mechanic.
as for what makes middle class, i suggest you get more familiar with
economics. $20 an hour is lower middle class. not that theres anything
wrong with lower middle class, but that is indeed where it falls.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:4331f$42992da8$422aaa8f$14202@FUSE.NET...
> Did you even read the rest of that post?
you said most dealership mechanics make $83,000 a year. here, ill quote
you:
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET
"Most mechanics turned around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from
8 AM to 5 PM, with an hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk =
$83,200 per year while working 40 hrs. a week."
to even suggest that a dealership mechanic is pulling in anywhere near $80k+
a year is laughable at best and downright sad on the other end. the rest of
your post/argument just doesnt matter. that you would further defend such an
assinine statement tells me everything i need to know. its just not worth
arguing with a brick wall. if this is what you believe then fine and well.
i do honestly wish you the best of luck in persuing your goal of being a
dealership mechanic.
as for what makes middle class, i suggest you get more familiar with
economics. $20 an hour is lower middle class. not that theres anything
wrong with lower middle class, but that is indeed where it falls.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
#314
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
#315
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
#316
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
#317
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
in any Bible:
http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31
And I am a Christian.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Salem was before the Bible?
>
> Actually, most of your ancestors were probably
> single-celled organisms...
>
> You're not religious... you're evil!
> __
> Steve
> .
#318
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
And what was wrong with these "Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the
60 degree V6's"?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> There were a lot of them. There still are.
>
> GM made the Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the 60 degree V6's, in fact
> they did not build a single decent small car for a roughly twenty year
> period.It wasn't until the Saturn GM had a small car it could look to
> with any self-respect at all. Chrysler built and still builds an
> entire generation of minivans with marginal transmissions and the
> horrible Neon.
>
> For what it's worth, for the weight and money, if new car buyers
> bought strictly according to reliability and cost per mile, Detroit's
> passenger car line would be in even worse shape than it is. And their
> big truck lines are selling mostly on the basis of macho and status
> rather than as work trucks-most people do not need that big a truck.
> Somewhere between a Ford Ranger and a Dodge Dakota is the right size.
> If they would offer a Dakota size pickup with the 4 cylinder Cummins
> and a full tilt fiberglass hood like a Freightliner, it would probably
> be the best selling _work_ truck for fleet use in the country-that's
> who's buying Rangers. If you need a "full size pickup" for actual
> work, you probably need a _medium duty truck_ and not a pickup, like
> the small Internationals, the Isuzu Chevy forward cabs, or similar.
>
> And another thing, the toughest industrial engines are Toyotas. Based
> on my company's record with forklifts, I would buy no other brand of
> lift truck. Hyster and Clark simply cannot compete on downtime and
> overall operating expense.
60 degree V6's"?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> There were a lot of them. There still are.
>
> GM made the Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the 60 degree V6's, in fact
> they did not build a single decent small car for a roughly twenty year
> period.It wasn't until the Saturn GM had a small car it could look to
> with any self-respect at all. Chrysler built and still builds an
> entire generation of minivans with marginal transmissions and the
> horrible Neon.
>
> For what it's worth, for the weight and money, if new car buyers
> bought strictly according to reliability and cost per mile, Detroit's
> passenger car line would be in even worse shape than it is. And their
> big truck lines are selling mostly on the basis of macho and status
> rather than as work trucks-most people do not need that big a truck.
> Somewhere between a Ford Ranger and a Dodge Dakota is the right size.
> If they would offer a Dakota size pickup with the 4 cylinder Cummins
> and a full tilt fiberglass hood like a Freightliner, it would probably
> be the best selling _work_ truck for fleet use in the country-that's
> who's buying Rangers. If you need a "full size pickup" for actual
> work, you probably need a _medium duty truck_ and not a pickup, like
> the small Internationals, the Isuzu Chevy forward cabs, or similar.
>
> And another thing, the toughest industrial engines are Toyotas. Based
> on my company's record with forklifts, I would buy no other brand of
> lift truck. Hyster and Clark simply cannot compete on downtime and
> overall operating expense.
#319
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
And what was wrong with these "Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the
60 degree V6's"?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> There were a lot of them. There still are.
>
> GM made the Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the 60 degree V6's, in fact
> they did not build a single decent small car for a roughly twenty year
> period.It wasn't until the Saturn GM had a small car it could look to
> with any self-respect at all. Chrysler built and still builds an
> entire generation of minivans with marginal transmissions and the
> horrible Neon.
>
> For what it's worth, for the weight and money, if new car buyers
> bought strictly according to reliability and cost per mile, Detroit's
> passenger car line would be in even worse shape than it is. And their
> big truck lines are selling mostly on the basis of macho and status
> rather than as work trucks-most people do not need that big a truck.
> Somewhere between a Ford Ranger and a Dodge Dakota is the right size.
> If they would offer a Dakota size pickup with the 4 cylinder Cummins
> and a full tilt fiberglass hood like a Freightliner, it would probably
> be the best selling _work_ truck for fleet use in the country-that's
> who's buying Rangers. If you need a "full size pickup" for actual
> work, you probably need a _medium duty truck_ and not a pickup, like
> the small Internationals, the Isuzu Chevy forward cabs, or similar.
>
> And another thing, the toughest industrial engines are Toyotas. Based
> on my company's record with forklifts, I would buy no other brand of
> lift truck. Hyster and Clark simply cannot compete on downtime and
> overall operating expense.
60 degree V6's"?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> There were a lot of them. There still are.
>
> GM made the Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the 60 degree V6's, in fact
> they did not build a single decent small car for a roughly twenty year
> period.It wasn't until the Saturn GM had a small car it could look to
> with any self-respect at all. Chrysler built and still builds an
> entire generation of minivans with marginal transmissions and the
> horrible Neon.
>
> For what it's worth, for the weight and money, if new car buyers
> bought strictly according to reliability and cost per mile, Detroit's
> passenger car line would be in even worse shape than it is. And their
> big truck lines are selling mostly on the basis of macho and status
> rather than as work trucks-most people do not need that big a truck.
> Somewhere between a Ford Ranger and a Dodge Dakota is the right size.
> If they would offer a Dakota size pickup with the 4 cylinder Cummins
> and a full tilt fiberglass hood like a Freightliner, it would probably
> be the best selling _work_ truck for fleet use in the country-that's
> who's buying Rangers. If you need a "full size pickup" for actual
> work, you probably need a _medium duty truck_ and not a pickup, like
> the small Internationals, the Isuzu Chevy forward cabs, or similar.
>
> And another thing, the toughest industrial engines are Toyotas. Based
> on my company's record with forklifts, I would buy no other brand of
> lift truck. Hyster and Clark simply cannot compete on downtime and
> overall operating expense.
#320
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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
And what was wrong with these "Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the
60 degree V6's"?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> There were a lot of them. There still are.
>
> GM made the Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the 60 degree V6's, in fact
> they did not build a single decent small car for a roughly twenty year
> period.It wasn't until the Saturn GM had a small car it could look to
> with any self-respect at all. Chrysler built and still builds an
> entire generation of minivans with marginal transmissions and the
> horrible Neon.
>
> For what it's worth, for the weight and money, if new car buyers
> bought strictly according to reliability and cost per mile, Detroit's
> passenger car line would be in even worse shape than it is. And their
> big truck lines are selling mostly on the basis of macho and status
> rather than as work trucks-most people do not need that big a truck.
> Somewhere between a Ford Ranger and a Dodge Dakota is the right size.
> If they would offer a Dakota size pickup with the 4 cylinder Cummins
> and a full tilt fiberglass hood like a Freightliner, it would probably
> be the best selling _work_ truck for fleet use in the country-that's
> who's buying Rangers. If you need a "full size pickup" for actual
> work, you probably need a _medium duty truck_ and not a pickup, like
> the small Internationals, the Isuzu Chevy forward cabs, or similar.
>
> And another thing, the toughest industrial engines are Toyotas. Based
> on my company's record with forklifts, I would buy no other brand of
> lift truck. Hyster and Clark simply cannot compete on downtime and
> overall operating expense.
60 degree V6's"?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> There were a lot of them. There still are.
>
> GM made the Vega, the Monza, the X-bodies, the 60 degree V6's, in fact
> they did not build a single decent small car for a roughly twenty year
> period.It wasn't until the Saturn GM had a small car it could look to
> with any self-respect at all. Chrysler built and still builds an
> entire generation of minivans with marginal transmissions and the
> horrible Neon.
>
> For what it's worth, for the weight and money, if new car buyers
> bought strictly according to reliability and cost per mile, Detroit's
> passenger car line would be in even worse shape than it is. And their
> big truck lines are selling mostly on the basis of macho and status
> rather than as work trucks-most people do not need that big a truck.
> Somewhere between a Ford Ranger and a Dodge Dakota is the right size.
> If they would offer a Dakota size pickup with the 4 cylinder Cummins
> and a full tilt fiberglass hood like a Freightliner, it would probably
> be the best selling _work_ truck for fleet use in the country-that's
> who's buying Rangers. If you need a "full size pickup" for actual
> work, you probably need a _medium duty truck_ and not a pickup, like
> the small Internationals, the Isuzu Chevy forward cabs, or similar.
>
> And another thing, the toughest industrial engines are Toyotas. Based
> on my company's record with forklifts, I would buy no other brand of
> lift truck. Hyster and Clark simply cannot compete on downtime and
> overall operating expense.