You're right, those whom have already have made a fortune need not
worry, it's just the idea of being surrounded by traitors, that pisses
me off. I just wish Japan and Germany would buy a few more worthless T
Bills to drive up their interest rate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ruel Smith wrote:
>
> BTW, who's whining about it? I only commented on the original post and after
> several back and forth responses it turned into this conversation. It was
> not a whine session, only informative.
>
> --
>
> Registered Linux user #378193

 

You're right, those whom have already have made a fortune need not
worry, it's just the idea of being surrounded by traitors, that pisses
me off. I just wish Japan and Germany would buy a few more worthless T
Bills to drive up their interest rate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ruel Smith wrote:
>
> BTW, who's whining about it? I only commented on the original post and after
> several back and forth responses it turned into this conversation. It was
> not a whine session, only informative.
>
> --
>
> Registered Linux user #378193

 

You're right, those whom have already have made a fortune need not
worry, it's just the idea of being surrounded by traitors, that pisses
me off. I just wish Japan and Germany would buy a few more worthless T
Bills to drive up their interest rate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ruel Smith wrote:
>
> BTW, who's whining about it? I only commented on the original post and after
> several back and forth responses it turned into this conversation. It was
> not a whine session, only informative.
>
> --
>
> Registered Linux user #378193

 

"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.

$20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.

> Most mechanics turned
> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with an
> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
> while
> working 40 hrs. a week.

if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year then
you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works. for
starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see anywhere
near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it isnt really
$20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for a repair and
pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour for changing an
alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it. no matter how
long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they allowed. you might
know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week but you can bet your
******* that they arent getting paid for it.


> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
> sound like lower middle income to me.

thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts yet.
:-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.

$20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.

> Most mechanics turned
> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with an
> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
> while
> working 40 hrs. a week.

if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year then
you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works. for
starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see anywhere
near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it isnt really
$20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for a repair and
pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour for changing an
alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it. no matter how
long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they allowed. you might
know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week but you can bet your
******* that they arent getting paid for it.


> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
> sound like lower middle income to me.

thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts yet.
:-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.

$20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.

> Most mechanics turned
> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with an
> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
> while
> working 40 hrs. a week.

if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year then
you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works. for
starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see anywhere
near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it isnt really
$20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for a repair and
pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour for changing an
alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it. no matter how
long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they allowed. you might
know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week but you can bet your
******* that they arent getting paid for it.


> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
> sound like lower middle income to me.

thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts yet.
:-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.

$20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.

> Most mechanics turned
> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with an
> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
> while
> working 40 hrs. a week.

if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year then
you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works. for
starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see anywhere
near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it isnt really
$20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for a repair and
pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour for changing an
alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it. no matter how
long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they allowed. you might
know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week but you can bet your
******* that they arent getting paid for it.


> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
> sound like lower middle income to me.

thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts yet.
:-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:119fh8jitg1p5b8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
>> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.
>
> $20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.
>
>> Most mechanics turned
>> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with
>> an
>> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
>> while
>> working 40 hrs. a week.
>
> if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year
> then you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works.
> for starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see
> anywhere near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it
> isnt really $20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for
> a repair and pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour
> for changing an alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it.
> no matter how long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they
> allowed. you might know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week
> but you can bet your ******* that they arent getting paid for it.
>
>
>> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
>> sound like lower middle income to me.
>
> thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts
> yet.

High end imprt techs (MB, BMW, JAGUAR, Porsche, etc.) are making far more
than $20 an hour, partiularly in large metro ares. Further, it's considered
a fairly common benchmark that techs efficiency should be around 120%. That
is, they should "flag" about 20% more flat rate time than they actually
work. Before everyone loses their composure, Nathan is quite right, time for
warranty repairs are set by the factories, and one can lose their shirt on a
complex diagnosis, etc. It is assumed, however, that one can make up the
time less comlicated repairs or maintenance services. It is not uncommon to
find experienced techs running 150% or more efficiency.

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:119fh8jitg1p5b8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
>> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.
>
> $20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.
>
>> Most mechanics turned
>> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with
>> an
>> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
>> while
>> working 40 hrs. a week.
>
> if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year
> then you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works.
> for starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see
> anywhere near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it
> isnt really $20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for
> a repair and pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour
> for changing an alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it.
> no matter how long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they
> allowed. you might know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week
> but you can bet your ******* that they arent getting paid for it.
>
>
>> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
>> sound like lower middle income to me.
>
> thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts
> yet.

High end imprt techs (MB, BMW, JAGUAR, Porsche, etc.) are making far more
than $20 an hour, partiularly in large metro ares. Further, it's considered
a fairly common benchmark that techs efficiency should be around 120%. That
is, they should "flag" about 20% more flat rate time than they actually
work. Before everyone loses their composure, Nathan is quite right, time for
warranty repairs are set by the factories, and one can lose their shirt on a
complex diagnosis, etc. It is assumed, however, that one can make up the
time less comlicated repairs or maintenance services. It is not uncommon to
find experienced techs running 150% or more efficiency.

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:119fh8jitg1p5b8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:47544$429786a3$422aaa63$24236@FUSE.NET...
>> $20+/hr on a flat rate = a handsome income.
>
> $20 per hour = $41,600 per year GROSS = lower medium income.
>
>> Most mechanics turned
>> around 80 book hrs. a week working a 5 day week from 8 AM to 5 PM, with
>> an
>> hour lunch. Do the math: $20 x 80 = $1600 gross/wk = $83,200 per year
>> while
>> working 40 hrs. a week.
>
> if you honestly believe _any_ dealership mechanic is making $83k a year
> then you have no idea at just how ignorant you are to how it really works.
> for starters, unless youve been there 15 years you arent going to see
> anywhere near $20 an hour. assuming you do eventually see $20 an hour it
> isnt really $20 an hour. manufacturers set how many hours they allow for
> a repair and pay you accordingly. for example, they may authorize 1 hour
> for changing an alternator even though it takes you 3 hours to change it.
> no matter how long it takes, youre getting paid for that 1 hour they
> allowed. you might know dealership mechanics who work 80 hours per week
> but you can bet your ******* that they arent getting paid for it.
>
>
>> Like I said, $20 PLUS per hour FLAT RATE. Doesn't
>> sound like lower middle income to me.
>
> thats just because real life hasnt jumped up and kicked you in the nuts
> yet.

High end imprt techs (MB, BMW, JAGUAR, Porsche, etc.) are making far more
than $20 an hour, partiularly in large metro ares. Further, it's considered
a fairly common benchmark that techs efficiency should be around 120%. That
is, they should "flag" about 20% more flat rate time than they actually
work. Before everyone loses their composure, Nathan is quite right, time for
warranty repairs are set by the factories, and one can lose their shirt on a
complex diagnosis, etc. It is assumed, however, that one can make up the
time less comlicated repairs or maintenance services. It is not uncommon to
find experienced techs running 150% or more efficiency.