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Dave Milne 07-30-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
 
Exactly where has Jeff claimed that he is a "johny come lately flash in the
pan know it all" ?

Dave Milne, Scotland


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a

moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.

>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




c 07-30-2007 11:12 AM

Re: detroit locker problem
 
bonsai4tim@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, you should be able to pull the locker without altering the gear mesh
>> settings. If you have the EZ Locker, then you are at a cross-road. You have
>> to consider putting in another EZ Locker, or upgrading to the Full Detroit
>> that can handle the loads placed upon it.

>
> Yes, its a dana 35 (key error)
>
> Its not an EZ locker, it's the Full Detroit style.
>
> tim
>


You may also want to check your tires. This is a bit unrelated, but I
have a 9" Ford in my truck with a lock-rite locker. Normally going down
the road it never made the ratcheting sound that it makes when going
around a corner. Eventually I started hearing one ratchet click every
once in a while as I went straight on a paved road. I had a rear tire
low on air, and the difference in tire diameters was causing the
ratcheting. Aired the tire up, and the ratcheting stopped.

Chris

c 07-30-2007 11:12 AM

Re: detroit locker problem
 
bonsai4tim@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, you should be able to pull the locker without altering the gear mesh
>> settings. If you have the EZ Locker, then you are at a cross-road. You have
>> to consider putting in another EZ Locker, or upgrading to the Full Detroit
>> that can handle the loads placed upon it.

>
> Yes, its a dana 35 (key error)
>
> Its not an EZ locker, it's the Full Detroit style.
>
> tim
>


You may also want to check your tires. This is a bit unrelated, but I
have a 9" Ford in my truck with a lock-rite locker. Normally going down
the road it never made the ratcheting sound that it makes when going
around a corner. Eventually I started hearing one ratchet click every
once in a while as I went straight on a paved road. I had a rear tire
low on air, and the difference in tire diameters was causing the
ratcheting. Aired the tire up, and the ratcheting stopped.

Chris

c 07-30-2007 11:12 AM

Re: detroit locker problem
 
bonsai4tim@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, you should be able to pull the locker without altering the gear mesh
>> settings. If you have the EZ Locker, then you are at a cross-road. You have
>> to consider putting in another EZ Locker, or upgrading to the Full Detroit
>> that can handle the loads placed upon it.

>
> Yes, its a dana 35 (key error)
>
> Its not an EZ locker, it's the Full Detroit style.
>
> tim
>


You may also want to check your tires. This is a bit unrelated, but I
have a 9" Ford in my truck with a lock-rite locker. Normally going down
the road it never made the ratcheting sound that it makes when going
around a corner. Eventually I started hearing one ratchet click every
once in a while as I went straight on a paved road. I had a rear tire
low on air, and the difference in tire diameters was causing the
ratcheting. Aired the tire up, and the ratcheting stopped.

Chris

c 07-30-2007 11:12 AM

Re: detroit locker problem
 
bonsai4tim@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, you should be able to pull the locker without altering the gear mesh
>> settings. If you have the EZ Locker, then you are at a cross-road. You have
>> to consider putting in another EZ Locker, or upgrading to the Full Detroit
>> that can handle the loads placed upon it.

>
> Yes, its a dana 35 (key error)
>
> Its not an EZ locker, it's the Full Detroit style.
>
> tim
>


You may also want to check your tires. This is a bit unrelated, but I
have a 9" Ford in my truck with a lock-rite locker. Normally going down
the road it never made the ratcheting sound that it makes when going
around a corner. Eventually I started hearing one ratchet click every
once in a while as I went straight on a paved road. I had a rear tire
low on air, and the difference in tire diameters was causing the
ratcheting. Aired the tire up, and the ratcheting stopped.

Chris

Jeff Strickland 08-02-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>>
>>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>>
>>You should stick to stuff you know about.

>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.




I've seen all of that too, but none of it seems to be part of the discussion
here. That is, the OP hasn't raised any of those issues. Except for you
creating troubles where troubles do not exist, the carrier is not a problem
here.

I'm not sure how arrive at "people like me." I made on pretense that
upgrading the axle fixes all problems with a rear end.

PS
The D35 is nowhere near being bullet proof under any condition.











Jeff Strickland 08-02-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>>
>>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>>
>>You should stick to stuff you know about.

>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.




I've seen all of that too, but none of it seems to be part of the discussion
here. That is, the OP hasn't raised any of those issues. Except for you
creating troubles where troubles do not exist, the carrier is not a problem
here.

I'm not sure how arrive at "people like me." I made on pretense that
upgrading the axle fixes all problems with a rear end.

PS
The D35 is nowhere near being bullet proof under any condition.











Jeff Strickland 08-02-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>>
>>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>>
>>You should stick to stuff you know about.

>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.




I've seen all of that too, but none of it seems to be part of the discussion
here. That is, the OP hasn't raised any of those issues. Except for you
creating troubles where troubles do not exist, the carrier is not a problem
here.

I'm not sure how arrive at "people like me." I made on pretense that
upgrading the axle fixes all problems with a rear end.

PS
The D35 is nowhere near being bullet proof under any condition.











Jeff Strickland 08-02-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
 

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>>
>>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>>
>>You should stick to stuff you know about.

>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.




I've seen all of that too, but none of it seems to be part of the discussion
here. That is, the OP hasn't raised any of those issues. Except for you
creating troubles where troubles do not exist, the carrier is not a problem
here.

I'm not sure how arrive at "people like me." I made on pretense that
upgrading the axle fixes all problems with a rear end.

PS
The D35 is nowhere near being bullet proof under any condition.












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