In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
05-29-2005, 06:22 PM
#31
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
Ruel Smith proclaimed:
> calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Ferraris of the 50's, 60's and 70's were the performance cars of their
>>generation overall, hands down.
>>
>>They were not dragsters, certainly. But who cares, except for a few
>>stoplight losers? The Ferrari V12 engines were capable of putting out
>>more power than all but the rumpiest musclecar engines-but they were
>>turbine smooth and would make power from 1500 rpm all the way to
>>redline. They would run a very long time and were highly rebuildable
>>with cylinder liners and a hell-for-stout lower end. And the drivelines
>>were rugged, the brakes first rate...sure, there were Cinzano wrappers
>>for fuses in the early ones, but mechanically they were first class.
>>Ferrari's real bread and butter was, and is, foundry work...and it
>>shows.
>
>
> I'll point out again, the 308 GTB had a 0 to 60 time of 9 seconds.
You can "point it out" until your face turns blue, but according to
Road & Track you have been eating too much cascara without taking
the appropriate break.
Range is from 6.8 to 7.9, with the 7.9 being for the early smogged
models.
> calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Ferraris of the 50's, 60's and 70's were the performance cars of their
>>generation overall, hands down.
>>
>>They were not dragsters, certainly. But who cares, except for a few
>>stoplight losers? The Ferrari V12 engines were capable of putting out
>>more power than all but the rumpiest musclecar engines-but they were
>>turbine smooth and would make power from 1500 rpm all the way to
>>redline. They would run a very long time and were highly rebuildable
>>with cylinder liners and a hell-for-stout lower end. And the drivelines
>>were rugged, the brakes first rate...sure, there were Cinzano wrappers
>>for fuses in the early ones, but mechanically they were first class.
>>Ferrari's real bread and butter was, and is, foundry work...and it
>>shows.
>
>
> I'll point out again, the 308 GTB had a 0 to 60 time of 9 seconds.
You can "point it out" until your face turns blue, but according to
Road & Track you have been eating too much cascara without taking
the appropriate break.
Range is from 6.8 to 7.9, with the 7.9 being for the early smogged
models.
05-29-2005, 06:22 PM
#32
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
Ruel Smith proclaimed:
> calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Ferraris of the 50's, 60's and 70's were the performance cars of their
>>generation overall, hands down.
>>
>>They were not dragsters, certainly. But who cares, except for a few
>>stoplight losers? The Ferrari V12 engines were capable of putting out
>>more power than all but the rumpiest musclecar engines-but they were
>>turbine smooth and would make power from 1500 rpm all the way to
>>redline. They would run a very long time and were highly rebuildable
>>with cylinder liners and a hell-for-stout lower end. And the drivelines
>>were rugged, the brakes first rate...sure, there were Cinzano wrappers
>>for fuses in the early ones, but mechanically they were first class.
>>Ferrari's real bread and butter was, and is, foundry work...and it
>>shows.
>
>
> I'll point out again, the 308 GTB had a 0 to 60 time of 9 seconds.
You can "point it out" until your face turns blue, but according to
Road & Track you have been eating too much cascara without taking
the appropriate break.
Range is from 6.8 to 7.9, with the 7.9 being for the early smogged
models.
> calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Ferraris of the 50's, 60's and 70's were the performance cars of their
>>generation overall, hands down.
>>
>>They were not dragsters, certainly. But who cares, except for a few
>>stoplight losers? The Ferrari V12 engines were capable of putting out
>>more power than all but the rumpiest musclecar engines-but they were
>>turbine smooth and would make power from 1500 rpm all the way to
>>redline. They would run a very long time and were highly rebuildable
>>with cylinder liners and a hell-for-stout lower end. And the drivelines
>>were rugged, the brakes first rate...sure, there were Cinzano wrappers
>>for fuses in the early ones, but mechanically they were first class.
>>Ferrari's real bread and butter was, and is, foundry work...and it
>>shows.
>
>
> I'll point out again, the 308 GTB had a 0 to 60 time of 9 seconds.
You can "point it out" until your face turns blue, but according to
Road & Track you have been eating too much cascara without taking
the appropriate break.
Range is from 6.8 to 7.9, with the 7.9 being for the early smogged
models.
05-29-2005, 06:22 PM
#33
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
Ruel Smith proclaimed:
> calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Ferraris of the 50's, 60's and 70's were the performance cars of their
>>generation overall, hands down.
>>
>>They were not dragsters, certainly. But who cares, except for a few
>>stoplight losers? The Ferrari V12 engines were capable of putting out
>>more power than all but the rumpiest musclecar engines-but they were
>>turbine smooth and would make power from 1500 rpm all the way to
>>redline. They would run a very long time and were highly rebuildable
>>with cylinder liners and a hell-for-stout lower end. And the drivelines
>>were rugged, the brakes first rate...sure, there were Cinzano wrappers
>>for fuses in the early ones, but mechanically they were first class.
>>Ferrari's real bread and butter was, and is, foundry work...and it
>>shows.
>
>
> I'll point out again, the 308 GTB had a 0 to 60 time of 9 seconds.
You can "point it out" until your face turns blue, but according to
Road & Track you have been eating too much cascara without taking
the appropriate break.
Range is from 6.8 to 7.9, with the 7.9 being for the early smogged
models.
> calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Ferraris of the 50's, 60's and 70's were the performance cars of their
>>generation overall, hands down.
>>
>>They were not dragsters, certainly. But who cares, except for a few
>>stoplight losers? The Ferrari V12 engines were capable of putting out
>>more power than all but the rumpiest musclecar engines-but they were
>>turbine smooth and would make power from 1500 rpm all the way to
>>redline. They would run a very long time and were highly rebuildable
>>with cylinder liners and a hell-for-stout lower end. And the drivelines
>>were rugged, the brakes first rate...sure, there were Cinzano wrappers
>>for fuses in the early ones, but mechanically they were first class.
>>Ferrari's real bread and butter was, and is, foundry work...and it
>>shows.
>
>
> I'll point out again, the 308 GTB had a 0 to 60 time of 9 seconds.
You can "point it out" until your face turns blue, but according to
Road & Track you have been eating too much cascara without taking
the appropriate break.
Range is from 6.8 to 7.9, with the 7.9 being for the early smogged
models.
05-29-2005, 11:44 PM
#34
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
05-29-2005, 11:44 PM
#35
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
05-29-2005, 11:44 PM
#36
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
05-29-2005, 11:44 PM
#37
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
it his way.
The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
Drag Night, is what performance is about.
05-30-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
You may buy a new Ford GT 40 that beat the pants off ferrari:
http://www.autointell.com/nao_compan...d-gt-40-02.htm
Or just take a ride in the new one:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/m...=CURRENT_VIDEO
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
> good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
> builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
> loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
> everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
> beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
> it his way.
>
> The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
> cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
> couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
> a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
>
> I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
> Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
> Drag Night, is what performance is about.
http://www.autointell.com/nao_compan...d-gt-40-02.htm
Or just take a ride in the new one:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/m...=CURRENT_VIDEO
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
> good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
> builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
> loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
> everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
> beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
> it his way.
>
> The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
> cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
> couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
> a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
>
> I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
> Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
> Drag Night, is what performance is about.
05-30-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
You may buy a new Ford GT 40 that beat the pants off ferrari:
http://www.autointell.com/nao_compan...d-gt-40-02.htm
Or just take a ride in the new one:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/m...=CURRENT_VIDEO
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
> good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
> builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
> loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
> everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
> beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
> it his way.
>
> The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
> cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
> couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
> a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
>
> I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
> Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
> Drag Night, is what performance is about.
http://www.autointell.com/nao_compan...d-gt-40-02.htm
Or just take a ride in the new one:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/m...=CURRENT_VIDEO
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
> good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
> builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
> loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
> everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
> beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
> it his way.
>
> The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
> cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
> couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
> a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
>
> I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
> Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
> Drag Night, is what performance is about.
05-30-2005, 12:19 AM
#40
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Re: In Defense of Enzo, who loved Jeeps
You may buy a new Ford GT 40 that beat the pants off ferrari:
http://www.autointell.com/nao_compan...d-gt-40-02.htm
Or just take a ride in the new one:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/m...=CURRENT_VIDEO
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
> good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
> builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
> loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
> everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
> beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
> it his way.
>
> The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
> cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
> couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
> a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
>
> I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
> Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
> Drag Night, is what performance is about.
http://www.autointell.com/nao_compan...d-gt-40-02.htm
Or just take a ride in the new one:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/m...=CURRENT_VIDEO
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't think Enzo loved cars per se, he loved engineering, he loved
> good workmanship-and he thought of himself as a engine and chassis
> builder, preferring to leave coachwork elsewhere-and most of all he
> loved winning. Ford beat him, once or twice, Colin Chapman ditto,
> everyone else ditto. Enzo went the distance. Even Shel never really
> beat him-no one did. He's the Sinatra of fast cars. He really did do
> it his way.
>
> The 308 was, I think, really a Dino to Enzo-a Ferrari was a twelve
> cylinder automobile. The 365BB is to me the ultimate Ferrari, he
> couldn't sell it in America, but he'd made his point. The 308 is still
> a fun car to drive-yes, I have-but it has a 90 degree flat crank V8.
>
> I'd like to see a Chevelle (not gutted out and NASCARized) beat any
> Ferrari ever built around the Nürburgring. THAT, and not High School
> Drag Night, is what performance is about.