SoK66

Could be I have it reversed, regardless it's a shame if thr Steelhorse
legacy continues.

It seems 4 Wheel Parts, 4WD Hardware, Quadratec and some others have
offshore sources making really bogus knock-offs. Brands like Rock Krusher,
Warrior, etc. are consistent crap, and even a formerly quality outfit like
Warn is peddling some cheap looking stuff that must be coming from East
Mogahacha.


"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SJ1Bd.728500$mD.257471@attbi_s02...
>I think Steel is now Outland (employee purchase) and has purchased
>Smittybuilt.
>
> Andy
>
> "SoK66" <SoK66@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:cqvllo01520@enews3.newsguy.com...
>> FYI, Steelhorse was bought out by Smittybuilt a year or so ago. From your
>> comments Smittybuilt have by now re-branded the same useless junk under
>> their own name. It's a shame, I was hoping the Steelhorse crap would
>> never again be foisted on the public, but apprently it's just a shell
>> game.
>>
>> I spoke with the Quadratec people at Moab two years ago about the
>> Steelhorse branded junk they were selling as CJ replacement parts. At the
>> time I was in the middle of a restoration on a '76 CJ5 and I'd returned
>> numerous Steelhorse branded items to them which turned out to be junk.
>> Their reps assured me they had severed all business ties to the offshore
>> mfr that made Steelhorse. Apprently the curse is back: Caveat Emptor!
>>
>>
>> "M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com...
>>> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
>>> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
>>> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
>>> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
>>> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
>>> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
>>> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
>>> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
>>> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
>>> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
>>> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
>>> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
>>> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
>>> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
>>> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
>>> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
>>> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
>>> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
>>> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
>>> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
>>> make the install.
>>> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
>>> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
>>> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
>>> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?
>>
>>
>
>

Cal

The easiest way to get to the harness, if you haven't already done so, is
through the wheel well. I'm guessing you are talking about the right rear
tail light. there is one plastic connector at the rear of the well that you
remove. That part of the plastic well will bend down, allowing good access.

cal


"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com...
> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
> make the install.
> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?

Cal

The easiest way to get to the harness, if you haven't already done so, is
through the wheel well. I'm guessing you are talking about the right rear
tail light. there is one plastic connector at the rear of the well that you
remove. That part of the plastic well will bend down, allowing good access.

cal


"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com...
> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
> make the install.
> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?

Cal

The easiest way to get to the harness, if you haven't already done so, is
through the wheel well. I'm guessing you are talking about the right rear
tail light. there is one plastic connector at the rear of the well that you
remove. That part of the plastic well will bend down, allowing good access.

cal


"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com...
> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
> make the install.
> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?

M. E. Bye

Thanks, Cal. I worked on that yesterday in the freezing rain here.
WOW! After they got the roads sanded today, I was off for my local
hardware store for a replacement fastener that I had to cut to get up
into the wheel well.

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ


On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:08:26 GMT, "Cal"
<codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote:

>The easiest way to get to the harness, if you haven't already done so, is
>through the wheel well. I'm guessing you are talking about the right rear
>tail light. there is one plastic connector at the rear of the well that you
>remove. That part of the plastic well will bend down, allowing good access.
>
>cal
>
>
>"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com.. .
>> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
>> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
>> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
>> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
>> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
>> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
>> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
>> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
>> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
>> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
>> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
>> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
>> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
>> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
>> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
>> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
>> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
>> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
>> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
>> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
>> make the install.
>> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
>> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
>> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
>> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?
>

M. E. Bye

Thanks, Cal. I worked on that yesterday in the freezing rain here.
WOW! After they got the roads sanded today, I was off for my local
hardware store for a replacement fastener that I had to cut to get up
into the wheel well.

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ


On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:08:26 GMT, "Cal"
<codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote:

>The easiest way to get to the harness, if you haven't already done so, is
>through the wheel well. I'm guessing you are talking about the right rear
>tail light. there is one plastic connector at the rear of the well that you
>remove. That part of the plastic well will bend down, allowing good access.
>
>cal
>
>
>"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com.. .
>> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
>> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
>> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
>> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
>> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
>> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
>> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
>> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
>> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
>> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
>> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
>> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
>> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
>> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
>> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
>> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
>> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
>> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
>> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
>> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
>> make the install.
>> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
>> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
>> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
>> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?
>

M. E. Bye

Thanks, Cal. I worked on that yesterday in the freezing rain here.
WOW! After they got the roads sanded today, I was off for my local
hardware store for a replacement fastener that I had to cut to get up
into the wheel well.

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ


On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:08:26 GMT, "Cal"
<codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote:

>The easiest way to get to the harness, if you haven't already done so, is
>through the wheel well. I'm guessing you are talking about the right rear
>tail light. there is one plastic connector at the rear of the well that you
>remove. That part of the plastic well will bend down, allowing good access.
>
>cal
>
>
>"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3a66t0p29o4046docpbkptd21c3u9v82bi@4ax.com.. .
>> I'd heard that Steelhorse accessories were junk, but the Smittybuilt
>> stuff my fiancee bought me for Christmas from your outfit is running a
>> close "second" in that department, in my opinion. One item she bought
>> me (and which is being sent back for credit) was the billet gas hatch
>> cover (15006.100). Just how long do you (or Smittybuilt) figure the
>> weak little spring that holds the cover in the open and closed
>> position will last... especially when it would be under a constant
>> barrage of road salt during long, northern Wisconsin winters? Had I
>> known that the other item, Euro Guard Rear Light Guards (13007.08),
>> were going to be such a pain in the *** to install, they'd be on their
>> way back, too. First off, there were no installation instructions.
>> It would have been nice to know that I had to pull the wiring harness
>> out and unplug the light fixtures before they could be installed (the
>> harness on the passenger side would not pull out far enough for me to
>> get to the connection... it did disconnect, however, inside of the
>> bodywork and at this time I have absolutely no idea how I am going to
>> retrieve it). It also would have been a good idea to send along the
>> CORRECT size screws for installation. The screws included were way
>> too short and not near the proper girth. I had to make a special trip
>> to the hardware store to purchase $3.60 worth of screws and washers to
>> make the install.
>> Right now, I'm not a very satisfied customer. In future catalogs, how
>> 'bout indicating the manufacturer's name on ALL items. You do it for
>> the quality names such as Bestop, why not do it for the crap
>> manufacturers so that people can avoid it if they want to?
>