Re: converting from private to commercial
 

Nichollette,
You should be able to get BLACK window tint.
It is applied to the interior of the window and you cannot see through it.
As far as screwing plywood or some other unsuitable material on it sounds
pretty awful and would look like crap.

Please, specify year and model of your Jeep or maybe post a link to a
picture.
There is some confusion about if it's what we call a Cherokee or a Liberty
in the US and our northern neighbors in Canada.

When you say that the windows have been "blanked out" do you mean that they
are not transparent,, or do you mean that they have been removed completely
and the holes filled with another panel?

Another thing you might consider is going to a vinyl sign company and having
them make full custom window decals for you that would go along with the
commercial theme. They would not be transparent and you could put your
business name on it. That might assure their acceptance of your commercial
intent.
Something along these lines:
http://www.fleetsidegraphics.com/fle..._window.php?12

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


"nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
news:erhtss$qpm$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
I don't see the seats as a problem. They can be unscrewed, most likely.
It's the windows bit that bothers me. They have to be blanked out - and
surely there must be some sort of kit for this?? I see Jeeps all over
Ireland with the windows blanked out. I've asked the owners, and they
mainly say.. "bought it like that..."

So - conversion kit, maybe?

The model is a Cherokee limited, 1995, 4 litre.

Tks again..


"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:JKKdnX8S3slJ8kHYnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> <Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1172073307.630608.86180@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Feb 21, 11:02 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>> > It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like
>> > this.
>> > I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to actual
>> > commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of the
>> > citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life
>> > style.
>> > For shame.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You're Joking right?
>>
> If you have to ask, then the joke is on you.
>
> Earle
>
>

Re: converting from private to commercial
 

Nichollette,
You should be able to get BLACK window tint.
It is applied to the interior of the window and you cannot see through it.
As far as screwing plywood or some other unsuitable material on it sounds
pretty awful and would look like crap.

Please, specify year and model of your Jeep or maybe post a link to a
picture.
There is some confusion about if it's what we call a Cherokee or a Liberty
in the US and our northern neighbors in Canada.

When you say that the windows have been "blanked out" do you mean that they
are not transparent,, or do you mean that they have been removed completely
and the holes filled with another panel?

Another thing you might consider is going to a vinyl sign company and having
them make full custom window decals for you that would go along with the
commercial theme. They would not be transparent and you could put your
business name on it. That might assure their acceptance of your commercial
intent.
Something along these lines:
http://www.fleetsidegraphics.com/fle..._window.php?12

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


"nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
news:erhtss$qpm$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
I don't see the seats as a problem. They can be unscrewed, most likely.
It's the windows bit that bothers me. They have to be blanked out - and
surely there must be some sort of kit for this?? I see Jeeps all over
Ireland with the windows blanked out. I've asked the owners, and they
mainly say.. "bought it like that..."

So - conversion kit, maybe?

The model is a Cherokee limited, 1995, 4 litre.

Tks again..


"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:JKKdnX8S3slJ8kHYnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> <Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1172073307.630608.86180@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Feb 21, 11:02 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>> > It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like
>> > this.
>> > I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to actual
>> > commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of the
>> > citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life
>> > style.
>> > For shame.
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You're Joking right?
>>
> If you have to ask, then the joke is on you.
>
> Earle
>
>

Re: converting from private to commercial
 

Somebody is making the windows, but whether in a factory or not is anybody's
guess, as is how you get them. In the U.S. delivery vans, camper
conversions etc. are made in smallish factories that no one really knows
about unless you work there or are in the habit of buying this type of
vehicle. Sometimes they advertise in speciality magazines. Next time you
see one of the vehicles, ask the owner if you can take a look at the
windows, to see what they are made out of. Glass can be painted, or it
could be metal, plastic, plywood or any of a number of materials. If you
elect to paint the glass, it has to be cleaned properly before hand, or the
paint will fall off. Professional painters have access to materials that
will do this properly. There is a house painter in my village (it really is
a village) that is a wizard at painting anything. I think his secret is
that he reads directions.

If you find plywood or paneling that is the same thickness as the original
glass, you just remove the glass, or have it removed by a mechanic, and
install a piece of paneling cut to the proper size in its place, in the
original rubber frame. Appearance depends on the material that you use,
which is why I suggest sheet steel glued to the outside of the panel, before
it is installed. That will take paint really well, and it is possible to
get a "factory finish" if that is what you want.

Earle

"nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
news:erhtss$qpm$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> I don't see the seats as a problem. They can be unscrewed, most likely.
> It's the windows bit that bothers me. They have to be blanked out - and
> surely there must be some sort of kit for this?? I see Jeeps all over
> Ireland with the windows blanked out. I've asked the owners, and they
> mainly say.. "bought it like that..."
>
> So - conversion kit, maybe?
>
> The model is a Cherokee limited, 1995, 4 litre.
>
> Tks again..
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:JKKdnX8S3slJ8kHYnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > <Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1172073307.630608.86180@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> >> On Feb 21, 11:02 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> >> > It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like
> >> > this.
> >> > I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to
actual
> >> > commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of
the
> >> > citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life
> >> > style.
> >> > For shame.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> You're Joking right?
> >>
> > If you have to ask, then the joke is on you.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
>
>

Re: converting from private to commercial
 

Somebody is making the windows, but whether in a factory or not is anybody's
guess, as is how you get them. In the U.S. delivery vans, camper
conversions etc. are made in smallish factories that no one really knows
about unless you work there or are in the habit of buying this type of
vehicle. Sometimes they advertise in speciality magazines. Next time you
see one of the vehicles, ask the owner if you can take a look at the
windows, to see what they are made out of. Glass can be painted, or it
could be metal, plastic, plywood or any of a number of materials. If you
elect to paint the glass, it has to be cleaned properly before hand, or the
paint will fall off. Professional painters have access to materials that
will do this properly. There is a house painter in my village (it really is
a village) that is a wizard at painting anything. I think his secret is
that he reads directions.

If you find plywood or paneling that is the same thickness as the original
glass, you just remove the glass, or have it removed by a mechanic, and
install a piece of paneling cut to the proper size in its place, in the
original rubber frame. Appearance depends on the material that you use,
which is why I suggest sheet steel glued to the outside of the panel, before
it is installed. That will take paint really well, and it is possible to
get a "factory finish" if that is what you want.

Earle

"nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
news:erhtss$qpm$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> I don't see the seats as a problem. They can be unscrewed, most likely.
> It's the windows bit that bothers me. They have to be blanked out - and
> surely there must be some sort of kit for this?? I see Jeeps all over
> Ireland with the windows blanked out. I've asked the owners, and they
> mainly say.. "bought it like that..."
>
> So - conversion kit, maybe?
>
> The model is a Cherokee limited, 1995, 4 litre.
>
> Tks again..
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:JKKdnX8S3slJ8kHYnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > <Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1172073307.630608.86180@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> >> On Feb 21, 11:02 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> >> > It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like
> >> > this.
> >> > I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to
actual
> >> > commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of
the
> >> > citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life
> >> > style.
> >> > For shame.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> You're Joking right?
> >>
> > If you have to ask, then the joke is on you.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
>
>

Re: converting from private to commercial
 

Somebody is making the windows, but whether in a factory or not is anybody's
guess, as is how you get them. In the U.S. delivery vans, camper
conversions etc. are made in smallish factories that no one really knows
about unless you work there or are in the habit of buying this type of
vehicle. Sometimes they advertise in speciality magazines. Next time you
see one of the vehicles, ask the owner if you can take a look at the
windows, to see what they are made out of. Glass can be painted, or it
could be metal, plastic, plywood or any of a number of materials. If you
elect to paint the glass, it has to be cleaned properly before hand, or the
paint will fall off. Professional painters have access to materials that
will do this properly. There is a house painter in my village (it really is
a village) that is a wizard at painting anything. I think his secret is
that he reads directions.

If you find plywood or paneling that is the same thickness as the original
glass, you just remove the glass, or have it removed by a mechanic, and
install a piece of paneling cut to the proper size in its place, in the
original rubber frame. Appearance depends on the material that you use,
which is why I suggest sheet steel glued to the outside of the panel, before
it is installed. That will take paint really well, and it is possible to
get a "factory finish" if that is what you want.

Earle

"nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
news:erhtss$qpm$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> I don't see the seats as a problem. They can be unscrewed, most likely.
> It's the windows bit that bothers me. They have to be blanked out - and
> surely there must be some sort of kit for this?? I see Jeeps all over
> Ireland with the windows blanked out. I've asked the owners, and they
> mainly say.. "bought it like that..."
>
> So - conversion kit, maybe?
>
> The model is a Cherokee limited, 1995, 4 litre.
>
> Tks again..
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:JKKdnX8S3slJ8kHYnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > <Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1172073307.630608.86180@v33g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> >> On Feb 21, 11:02 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> >> > It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like
> >> > this.
> >> > I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to
actual
> >> > commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of
the
> >> > citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life
> >> > style.
> >> > For shame.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> You're Joking right?
> >>
> > If you have to ask, then the joke is on you.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> >
>
>

Re: converting from private to commercial
 

LOL Except commercial plates are a lot more expensive in Kalifornia, but
you can legally park in loading zones, which are many times the only spaces
available.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:2LydnUOAOaqw90HYnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like this.
> I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to actual
> commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of the
> citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life style.
> For shame.
>
> Any mechanic who is not an idiot can replace the rear windows with plywood
> panels of the proper thickness. For extra durability sheet steel can be
> glued or fastened to the outside of the panels. It can be done in such a
> way that it looks like a factory job. Plastic is another option, and
takes
> paint well. Rear seat removal is easy. I can't overemphasize how easy it
> is. The people you have talked to just don't want the work.
>
> Earle
>
> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> > Hi,
> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug
> of
> > cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if
I
> > had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing
> the
> > two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing
the
> > rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it
> to
> > do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep
> > dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone
> know
> > anything about this?
> >
> > Tks
> >
> > Nichollette
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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Re: converting from private to commercial
 

LOL Except commercial plates are a lot more expensive in Kalifornia, but
you can legally park in loading zones, which are many times the only spaces
available.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:2LydnUOAOaqw90HYnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like this.
> I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to actual
> commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of the
> citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life style.
> For shame.
>
> Any mechanic who is not an idiot can replace the rear windows with plywood
> panels of the proper thickness. For extra durability sheet steel can be
> glued or fastened to the outside of the panels. It can be done in such a
> way that it looks like a factory job. Plastic is another option, and
takes
> paint well. Rear seat removal is easy. I can't overemphasize how easy it
> is. The people you have talked to just don't want the work.
>
> Earle
>
> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> > Hi,
> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug
> of
> > cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if
I
> > had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing
> the
> > two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing
the
> > rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it
> to
> > do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep
> > dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone
> know
> > anything about this?
> >
> > Tks
> >
> > Nichollette
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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Re: converting from private to commercial
 

LOL Except commercial plates are a lot more expensive in Kalifornia, but
you can legally park in loading zones, which are many times the only spaces
available.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:2LydnUOAOaqw90HYnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It is shocking that a citizen would try to cheat the tax system like this.
> I am sure that you have no intention of putting your Cherokee to actual
> commercial use, for which this exemption is intended. The rest of the
> citizens in your community will be supporting your luxurious life style.
> For shame.
>
> Any mechanic who is not an idiot can replace the rear windows with plywood
> panels of the proper thickness. For extra durability sheet steel can be
> glued or fastened to the outside of the panels. It can be done in such a
> way that it looks like a factory job. Plastic is another option, and
takes
> paint well. Rear seat removal is easy. I can't overemphasize how easy it
> is. The people you have talked to just don't want the work.
>
> Earle
>
> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message
> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> > Hi,
> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug
> of
> > cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if
I
> > had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing
> the
> > two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing
the
> > rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it
> to
> > do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep
> > dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone
> know
> > anything about this?
> >
> > Tks
> >
> > Nichollette
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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Re: converting from private to commercial
 

http://www.texasescapes.com/Signs/Fa...dStore1938.jpg
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172077163.980693.110490@l53g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The dichotomy between "luxury" and tooling around with a 2-seater
> Cherokee with tec-screwed plywood rear windows blew your cover.
> ...though the Liberty/Cherokee factor really kills the hillbilly image
> in my head.
>



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Re: converting from private to commercial
 

http://www.texasescapes.com/Signs/Fa...dStore1938.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172077163.980693.110490@l53g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The dichotomy between "luxury" and tooling around with a 2-seater
> Cherokee with tec-screwed plywood rear windows blew your cover.
> ...though the Liberty/Cherokee factor really kills the hillbilly image
> in my head.
>



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