Re: consensus on new commander?
Bill Kearney wrote:
> > > I see way more of the new Grands than Commanders. The Commanders at the > > local dealer are also offering bigger discounts. One cow orker drove > > the Commander for one of those extended weekend road tests and ended up > > buying the Grand Cherokee instead because he fit better--and is build > > like a linebacker. > > Eh, even with a smaller build the Commander's just butt-ugly; inside and > out. > > I returned the 4.7 and tried the 3.7; it just doesn't have enough power. It > hunts through gears too much. I'd envision getting worse mileage from > having to kick it down all the time. So now it's a debate between the 4.7 > and hemi. Actually looks like I can get a better deal on the hemi, with a > few less options, than a 4.7. > > -Bill Kearney That 'hemi' is down right scary. They are using the tried and failed GM system I read 'but' they say 'they' have better mathematicians than GM had so it won't be an abortion like the Caddy engines were. Sure it wont...... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: consensus on new commander?
Bill Kearney wrote:
> > > I see way more of the new Grands than Commanders. The Commanders at the > > local dealer are also offering bigger discounts. One cow orker drove > > the Commander for one of those extended weekend road tests and ended up > > buying the Grand Cherokee instead because he fit better--and is build > > like a linebacker. > > Eh, even with a smaller build the Commander's just butt-ugly; inside and > out. > > I returned the 4.7 and tried the 3.7; it just doesn't have enough power. It > hunts through gears too much. I'd envision getting worse mileage from > having to kick it down all the time. So now it's a debate between the 4.7 > and hemi. Actually looks like I can get a better deal on the hemi, with a > few less options, than a 4.7. > > -Bill Kearney That 'hemi' is down right scary. They are using the tried and failed GM system I read 'but' they say 'they' have better mathematicians than GM had so it won't be an abortion like the Caddy engines were. Sure it wont...... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: consensus on new commander?
FWIW Consumer Reports did a write up on the Hemi Commander in July.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:451BDB47.890A7B82@sympatico.ca... > Bill Kearney wrote: >> >> > I see way more of the new Grands than Commanders. The Commanders at >> > the >> > local dealer are also offering bigger discounts. One cow orker drove >> > the Commander for one of those extended weekend road tests and ended up >> > buying the Grand Cherokee instead because he fit better--and is build >> > like a linebacker. >> >> Eh, even with a smaller build the Commander's just butt-ugly; inside and >> out. >> >> I returned the 4.7 and tried the 3.7; it just doesn't have enough power. >> It >> hunts through gears too much. I'd envision getting worse mileage from >> having to kick it down all the time. So now it's a debate between the >> 4.7 >> and hemi. Actually looks like I can get a better deal on the hemi, with >> a >> few less options, than a 4.7. >> >> -Bill Kearney > > That 'hemi' is down right scary. They are using the tried and failed GM > system I read 'but' they say 'they' have better mathematicians than GM > had so it won't be an abortion like the Caddy engines were. Sure it > wont...... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: consensus on new commander?
FWIW Consumer Reports did a write up on the Hemi Commander in July.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:451BDB47.890A7B82@sympatico.ca... > Bill Kearney wrote: >> >> > I see way more of the new Grands than Commanders. The Commanders at >> > the >> > local dealer are also offering bigger discounts. One cow orker drove >> > the Commander for one of those extended weekend road tests and ended up >> > buying the Grand Cherokee instead because he fit better--and is build >> > like a linebacker. >> >> Eh, even with a smaller build the Commander's just butt-ugly; inside and >> out. >> >> I returned the 4.7 and tried the 3.7; it just doesn't have enough power. >> It >> hunts through gears too much. I'd envision getting worse mileage from >> having to kick it down all the time. So now it's a debate between the >> 4.7 >> and hemi. Actually looks like I can get a better deal on the hemi, with >> a >> few less options, than a 4.7. >> >> -Bill Kearney > > That 'hemi' is down right scary. They are using the tried and failed GM > system I read 'but' they say 'they' have better mathematicians than GM > had so it won't be an abortion like the Caddy engines were. Sure it > wont...... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: consensus on new commander?
FWIW Consumer Reports did a write up on the Hemi Commander in July.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:451BDB47.890A7B82@sympatico.ca... > Bill Kearney wrote: >> >> > I see way more of the new Grands than Commanders. The Commanders at >> > the >> > local dealer are also offering bigger discounts. One cow orker drove >> > the Commander for one of those extended weekend road tests and ended up >> > buying the Grand Cherokee instead because he fit better--and is build >> > like a linebacker. >> >> Eh, even with a smaller build the Commander's just butt-ugly; inside and >> out. >> >> I returned the 4.7 and tried the 3.7; it just doesn't have enough power. >> It >> hunts through gears too much. I'd envision getting worse mileage from >> having to kick it down all the time. So now it's a debate between the >> 4.7 >> and hemi. Actually looks like I can get a better deal on the hemi, with >> a >> few less options, than a 4.7. >> >> -Bill Kearney > > That 'hemi' is down right scary. They are using the tried and failed GM > system I read 'but' they say 'they' have better mathematicians than GM > had so it won't be an abortion like the Caddy engines were. Sure it > wont...... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: consensus on new commander?
In article <bLuSg.7030$Iq5.4042@trndny02>,
Steve Foley <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote: >"John Murphy" <tj0llll0@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:451A32DB.A3E2DAA7@yahoo.com... >> I went to the dealer to look at one, told the salseman I wante to see >> the new JEEP. He looked at my JEEP and told me I wouldnt like it. Said I >> would like the GC with ind suspension. Told him That I wouldnt and went >> home. >> >> John in Vegas >> >> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: > >I went to the dealer to BUY a brand new YJ. I spent 1/2 hour waiting for the >salesman BS with some guy who plainly said "I wish they came out with this >last month before I bought my Ford". > >I went to another dealer. > >The best one I heard was when my brother tried to buy a Honda motorcycle >from the local arrogant Honda dealer. They wouldn't sell him what he wanted, >so he went to another dealer. > >He took the brand new bike back to the first place for the state inspection. > > Heheh. That's like sticking it up their a$$. :) The service department is normally neutral and hate the sales department at least in a auto dealership. You can then just walk around the sales floor and be smug. :) -- Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice... |
Re: consensus on new commander?
In article <bLuSg.7030$Iq5.4042@trndny02>,
Steve Foley <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote: >"John Murphy" <tj0llll0@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:451A32DB.A3E2DAA7@yahoo.com... >> I went to the dealer to look at one, told the salseman I wante to see >> the new JEEP. He looked at my JEEP and told me I wouldnt like it. Said I >> would like the GC with ind suspension. Told him That I wouldnt and went >> home. >> >> John in Vegas >> >> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: > >I went to the dealer to BUY a brand new YJ. I spent 1/2 hour waiting for the >salesman BS with some guy who plainly said "I wish they came out with this >last month before I bought my Ford". > >I went to another dealer. > >The best one I heard was when my brother tried to buy a Honda motorcycle >from the local arrogant Honda dealer. They wouldn't sell him what he wanted, >so he went to another dealer. > >He took the brand new bike back to the first place for the state inspection. > > Heheh. That's like sticking it up their a$$. :) The service department is normally neutral and hate the sales department at least in a auto dealership. You can then just walk around the sales floor and be smug. :) -- Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice... |
Re: consensus on new commander?
In article <bLuSg.7030$Iq5.4042@trndny02>,
Steve Foley <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote: >"John Murphy" <tj0llll0@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:451A32DB.A3E2DAA7@yahoo.com... >> I went to the dealer to look at one, told the salseman I wante to see >> the new JEEP. He looked at my JEEP and told me I wouldnt like it. Said I >> would like the GC with ind suspension. Told him That I wouldnt and went >> home. >> >> John in Vegas >> >> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: > >I went to the dealer to BUY a brand new YJ. I spent 1/2 hour waiting for the >salesman BS with some guy who plainly said "I wish they came out with this >last month before I bought my Ford". > >I went to another dealer. > >The best one I heard was when my brother tried to buy a Honda motorcycle >from the local arrogant Honda dealer. They wouldn't sell him what he wanted, >so he went to another dealer. > >He took the brand new bike back to the first place for the state inspection. > > Heheh. That's like sticking it up their a$$. :) The service department is normally neutral and hate the sales department at least in a auto dealership. You can then just walk around the sales floor and be smug. :) -- Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice... |
Re: consensus on new commander?
In article <45195B26.D4CC53C7@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: >Bill Kearney wrote: >> >> > A few other familiar names that Studebaker used first... >> >> Who cares? > > At least it is more or less on topic unlike most of the -------- posted >here these days. ROFLMAO! Exactly. It's a welcome change to read the Studebaker OT and how it was similiar to the topic. -- Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice... |
Re: consensus on new commander?
In article <45195B26.D4CC53C7@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote: >Bill Kearney wrote: >> >> > A few other familiar names that Studebaker used first... >> >> Who cares? > > At least it is more or less on topic unlike most of the -------- posted >here these days. ROFLMAO! Exactly. It's a welcome change to read the Studebaker OT and how it was similiar to the topic. -- Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice... |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:43 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands