CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
12-07-2003, 08:03 PM
#31
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Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
this is...
Earle
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
stored
> in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
inside
> as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
use
> it to power my Nail gun too.
> KH
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > Paul Calman wrote:
> >
> > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> of a
> > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
liquid
> > > state.
> >
> > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> >
> > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> >
> > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> >
> > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> actually
> > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
The
> > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> scuba
> > > cyl.
> > >
> >
>
>
no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
this is...
Earle
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
stored
> in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
inside
> as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
use
> it to power my Nail gun too.
> KH
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > Paul Calman wrote:
> >
> > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> of a
> > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
liquid
> > > state.
> >
> > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> >
> > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> >
> > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> >
> > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> actually
> > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
The
> > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> scuba
> > > cyl.
> > >
> >
>
>
12-07-2003, 09:35 PM
#32
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Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Not likely in my rig, no weatherstripping, so even with the doors and
hard-top on, it is well ventillated.
The site say their bottle of CO2 will fill my tire size 16 times from 10 to
30 Lbs, so i guess I could figure 8 times with air, or 2 fillups. Hardly
worth the time or cost, and the welding shop is 35 miles away. I already own
an O2 bottle, havent checked to see if they fill air to high pressures, and
O2 won't do the job for me. Still in square 1, if i have to spend money I
will go back to the compressor method.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Not likely in my rig, no weatherstripping, so even with the doors and
hard-top on, it is well ventillated.
The site say their bottle of CO2 will fill my tire size 16 times from 10 to
30 Lbs, so i guess I could figure 8 times with air, or 2 fillups. Hardly
worth the time or cost, and the welding shop is 35 miles away. I already own
an O2 bottle, havent checked to see if they fill air to high pressures, and
O2 won't do the job for me. Still in square 1, if i have to spend money I
will go back to the compressor method.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
12-07-2003, 09:35 PM
#33
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Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Not likely in my rig, no weatherstripping, so even with the doors and
hard-top on, it is well ventillated.
The site say their bottle of CO2 will fill my tire size 16 times from 10 to
30 Lbs, so i guess I could figure 8 times with air, or 2 fillups. Hardly
worth the time or cost, and the welding shop is 35 miles away. I already own
an O2 bottle, havent checked to see if they fill air to high pressures, and
O2 won't do the job for me. Still in square 1, if i have to spend money I
will go back to the compressor method.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Not likely in my rig, no weatherstripping, so even with the doors and
hard-top on, it is well ventillated.
The site say their bottle of CO2 will fill my tire size 16 times from 10 to
30 Lbs, so i guess I could figure 8 times with air, or 2 fillups. Hardly
worth the time or cost, and the welding shop is 35 miles away. I already own
an O2 bottle, havent checked to see if they fill air to high pressures, and
O2 won't do the job for me. Still in square 1, if i have to spend money I
will go back to the compressor method.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
12-07-2003, 09:35 PM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Not likely in my rig, no weatherstripping, so even with the doors and
hard-top on, it is well ventillated.
The site say their bottle of CO2 will fill my tire size 16 times from 10 to
30 Lbs, so i guess I could figure 8 times with air, or 2 fillups. Hardly
worth the time or cost, and the welding shop is 35 miles away. I already own
an O2 bottle, havent checked to see if they fill air to high pressures, and
O2 won't do the job for me. Still in square 1, if i have to spend money I
will go back to the compressor method.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Not likely in my rig, no weatherstripping, so even with the doors and
hard-top on, it is well ventillated.
The site say their bottle of CO2 will fill my tire size 16 times from 10 to
30 Lbs, so i guess I could figure 8 times with air, or 2 fillups. Hardly
worth the time or cost, and the welding shop is 35 miles away. I already own
an O2 bottle, havent checked to see if they fill air to high pressures, and
O2 won't do the job for me. Still in square 1, if i have to spend money I
will go back to the compressor method.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
12-07-2003, 10:19 PM
#35
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Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
Well, I would be more worried about flying debris knocking the valve off
in an accident or roll over.
I took welding way back in school and watched the safety video. A tank
that gets the valve knocked off is a torpedo and it will blast right
through a concrete block and brick wall like it was paper.
My wife and i also worked for a scrap dealer in the 80's and we both did
a mess of cutting for him. All the metal had to be in 2' x4' chunks for
the shredder that filled up barges to go to Japan to build new cars. We
were using cryogenic liquid O2 and propane in the cutting torches.
Man, the regular gas tanks have zip on a tank filled with liquid O2.
Liquid O2 is serious nasty stuff! If it touches grease of any kind, it
explodes. Use a tank for a few hours steady and the shutoff valve
freezes solid, so if you have a hose or torch failure, there is no way
to shut the sucker down.
The gas company rep that was teaching us about it said if the above
happens, run like hell!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> > I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
> stored
> > in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
> inside
> > as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
> use
> > it to power my Nail gun too.
> > KH
> >
> > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > > Paul Calman wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> > of a
> > > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
> liquid
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> > >
> > > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> > >
> > > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> > >
> > > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> > actually
> > > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
> The
> > > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> > scuba
> > > > cyl.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
in an accident or roll over.
I took welding way back in school and watched the safety video. A tank
that gets the valve knocked off is a torpedo and it will blast right
through a concrete block and brick wall like it was paper.
My wife and i also worked for a scrap dealer in the 80's and we both did
a mess of cutting for him. All the metal had to be in 2' x4' chunks for
the shredder that filled up barges to go to Japan to build new cars. We
were using cryogenic liquid O2 and propane in the cutting torches.
Man, the regular gas tanks have zip on a tank filled with liquid O2.
Liquid O2 is serious nasty stuff! If it touches grease of any kind, it
explodes. Use a tank for a few hours steady and the shutoff valve
freezes solid, so if you have a hose or torch failure, there is no way
to shut the sucker down.
The gas company rep that was teaching us about it said if the above
happens, run like hell!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> > I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
> stored
> > in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
> inside
> > as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
> use
> > it to power my Nail gun too.
> > KH
> >
> > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > > Paul Calman wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> > of a
> > > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
> liquid
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> > >
> > > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> > >
> > > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> > >
> > > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> > actually
> > > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
> The
> > > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> > scuba
> > > > cyl.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-07-2003, 10:19 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
Well, I would be more worried about flying debris knocking the valve off
in an accident or roll over.
I took welding way back in school and watched the safety video. A tank
that gets the valve knocked off is a torpedo and it will blast right
through a concrete block and brick wall like it was paper.
My wife and i also worked for a scrap dealer in the 80's and we both did
a mess of cutting for him. All the metal had to be in 2' x4' chunks for
the shredder that filled up barges to go to Japan to build new cars. We
were using cryogenic liquid O2 and propane in the cutting torches.
Man, the regular gas tanks have zip on a tank filled with liquid O2.
Liquid O2 is serious nasty stuff! If it touches grease of any kind, it
explodes. Use a tank for a few hours steady and the shutoff valve
freezes solid, so if you have a hose or torch failure, there is no way
to shut the sucker down.
The gas company rep that was teaching us about it said if the above
happens, run like hell!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> > I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
> stored
> > in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
> inside
> > as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
> use
> > it to power my Nail gun too.
> > KH
> >
> > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > > Paul Calman wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> > of a
> > > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
> liquid
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> > >
> > > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> > >
> > > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> > >
> > > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> > actually
> > > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
> The
> > > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> > scuba
> > > > cyl.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
in an accident or roll over.
I took welding way back in school and watched the safety video. A tank
that gets the valve knocked off is a torpedo and it will blast right
through a concrete block and brick wall like it was paper.
My wife and i also worked for a scrap dealer in the 80's and we both did
a mess of cutting for him. All the metal had to be in 2' x4' chunks for
the shredder that filled up barges to go to Japan to build new cars. We
were using cryogenic liquid O2 and propane in the cutting torches.
Man, the regular gas tanks have zip on a tank filled with liquid O2.
Liquid O2 is serious nasty stuff! If it touches grease of any kind, it
explodes. Use a tank for a few hours steady and the shutoff valve
freezes solid, so if you have a hose or torch failure, there is no way
to shut the sucker down.
The gas company rep that was teaching us about it said if the above
happens, run like hell!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> > I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
> stored
> > in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
> inside
> > as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
> use
> > it to power my Nail gun too.
> > KH
> >
> > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > > Paul Calman wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> > of a
> > > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
> liquid
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> > >
> > > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> > >
> > > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> > >
> > > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> > actually
> > > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
> The
> > > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> > scuba
> > > > cyl.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-07-2003, 10:19 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
Well, I would be more worried about flying debris knocking the valve off
in an accident or roll over.
I took welding way back in school and watched the safety video. A tank
that gets the valve knocked off is a torpedo and it will blast right
through a concrete block and brick wall like it was paper.
My wife and i also worked for a scrap dealer in the 80's and we both did
a mess of cutting for him. All the metal had to be in 2' x4' chunks for
the shredder that filled up barges to go to Japan to build new cars. We
were using cryogenic liquid O2 and propane in the cutting torches.
Man, the regular gas tanks have zip on a tank filled with liquid O2.
Liquid O2 is serious nasty stuff! If it touches grease of any kind, it
explodes. Use a tank for a few hours steady and the shutoff valve
freezes solid, so if you have a hose or torch failure, there is no way
to shut the sucker down.
The gas company rep that was teaching us about it said if the above
happens, run like hell!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> > I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
> stored
> > in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
> inside
> > as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
> use
> > it to power my Nail gun too.
> > KH
> >
> > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > > Paul Calman wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> > of a
> > > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
> liquid
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> > >
> > > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> > >
> > > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> > >
> > > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> > actually
> > > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
> The
> > > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> > scuba
> > > > cyl.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
in an accident or roll over.
I took welding way back in school and watched the safety video. A tank
that gets the valve knocked off is a torpedo and it will blast right
through a concrete block and brick wall like it was paper.
My wife and i also worked for a scrap dealer in the 80's and we both did
a mess of cutting for him. All the metal had to be in 2' x4' chunks for
the shredder that filled up barges to go to Japan to build new cars. We
were using cryogenic liquid O2 and propane in the cutting torches.
Man, the regular gas tanks have zip on a tank filled with liquid O2.
Liquid O2 is serious nasty stuff! If it touches grease of any kind, it
explodes. Use a tank for a few hours steady and the shutoff valve
freezes solid, so if you have a hose or torch failure, there is no way
to shut the sucker down.
The gas company rep that was teaching us about it said if the above
happens, run like hell!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
> > I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
> stored
> > in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
> inside
> > as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
> use
> > it to power my Nail gun too.
> > KH
> >
> > "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> > news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
> > > Paul Calman wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
> > of a
> > > > cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
> liquid
> > > > state.
> > >
> > > Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
> > > evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
> > >
> > > Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
> > >
> > > Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
> > >
> > > > That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
> > actually
> > > > deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
> The
> > > > sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
> > scuba
> > > > cyl.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
12-07-2003, 10:54 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
Earle Horton wrote:
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Heh. That's why you need to carry also an oxygen tank! ;-) Just kidding!
Depends on the size of the leak. Like anything else, the seals and
valves should be checked and maintained. If it's leaking, it's outta there.
Also, it's less of a problem when the Jeep top is off, but I could see
how a winter hard top could collect enough C02 from a leaky tank and
suffocate someone. Hmmm...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
>
>>I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
>
> stored
>
>>in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
>
> inside
>
>>as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
>
> use
>
>>it to power my Nail gun too.
>>KH
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Paul Calman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
>>
>>of a
>>
>>>>cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
>
> liquid
>
>>>>state.
>>>
>>>Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
>>>evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
>>>
>>>Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
>>>
>>>Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
>>
>>actually
>>
>>>>deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
>
> The
>
>>>>sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
>>
>>scuba
>>
>>>>cyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Heh. That's why you need to carry also an oxygen tank! ;-) Just kidding!
Depends on the size of the leak. Like anything else, the seals and
valves should be checked and maintained. If it's leaking, it's outta there.
Also, it's less of a problem when the Jeep top is off, but I could see
how a winter hard top could collect enough C02 from a leaky tank and
suffocate someone. Hmmm...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
>
>>I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
>
> stored
>
>>in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
>
> inside
>
>>as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
>
> use
>
>>it to power my Nail gun too.
>>KH
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Paul Calman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
>>
>>of a
>>
>>>>cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
>
> liquid
>
>>>>state.
>>>
>>>Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
>>>evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
>>>
>>>Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
>>>
>>>Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
>>
>>actually
>>
>>>>deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
>
> The
>
>>>>sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
>>
>>scuba
>>
>>>>cyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
12-07-2003, 10:54 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
Earle Horton wrote:
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Heh. That's why you need to carry also an oxygen tank! ;-) Just kidding!
Depends on the size of the leak. Like anything else, the seals and
valves should be checked and maintained. If it's leaking, it's outta there.
Also, it's less of a problem when the Jeep top is off, but I could see
how a winter hard top could collect enough C02 from a leaky tank and
suffocate someone. Hmmm...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
>
>>I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
>
> stored
>
>>in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
>
> inside
>
>>as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
>
> use
>
>>it to power my Nail gun too.
>>KH
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Paul Calman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
>>
>>of a
>>
>>>>cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
>
> liquid
>
>>>>state.
>>>
>>>Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
>>>evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
>>>
>>>Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
>>>
>>>Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
>>
>>actually
>>
>>>>deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
>
> The
>
>>>>sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
>>
>>scuba
>>
>>>>cyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Heh. That's why you need to carry also an oxygen tank! ;-) Just kidding!
Depends on the size of the leak. Like anything else, the seals and
valves should be checked and maintained. If it's leaking, it's outta there.
Also, it's less of a problem when the Jeep top is off, but I could see
how a winter hard top could collect enough C02 from a leaky tank and
suffocate someone. Hmmm...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
>
>>I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
>
> stored
>
>>in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
>
> inside
>
>>as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
>
> use
>
>>it to power my Nail gun too.
>>KH
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Paul Calman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
>>
>>of a
>>
>>>>cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
>
> liquid
>
>>>>state.
>>>
>>>Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
>>>evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
>>>
>>>Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
>>>
>>>Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
>>
>>actually
>>
>>>>deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
>
> The
>
>>>>sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
>>
>>scuba
>>
>>>>cyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
12-07-2003, 10:54 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CO2 Vs. Scuba tank?
Earle Horton wrote:
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Heh. That's why you need to carry also an oxygen tank! ;-) Just kidding!
Depends on the size of the leak. Like anything else, the seals and
valves should be checked and maintained. If it's leaking, it's outta there.
Also, it's less of a problem when the Jeep top is off, but I could see
how a winter hard top could collect enough C02 from a leaky tank and
suffocate someone. Hmmm...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
>
>>I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
>
> stored
>
>>in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
>
> inside
>
>>as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
>
> use
>
>>it to power my Nail gun too.
>>KH
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Paul Calman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
>>
>>of a
>>
>>>>cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
>
> liquid
>
>>>>state.
>>>
>>>Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
>>>evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
>>>
>>>Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
>>>
>>>Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
>>
>>actually
>>
>>>>deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
>
> The
>
>>>>sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
>>
>>scuba
>>
>>>>cyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> There is a notice at the business where I exchange my tanks that says that
> no compressed gas should ever be transported inside a vehicle. If your CO2
> tank should leak from the valve it could fill the vehicle's interior with
> CO2 and displace all the oxygen, which you need. I don't know how likely
> this is...
Heh. That's why you need to carry also an oxygen tank! ;-) Just kidding!
Depends on the size of the leak. Like anything else, the seals and
valves should be checked and maintained. If it's leaking, it's outta there.
Also, it's less of a problem when the Jeep top is off, but I could see
how a winter hard top could collect enough C02 from a leaky tank and
suffocate someone. Hmmm...
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2IPAb.29647$Bk1.25862@fed1read05...
>
>>I use CO2. I have 10 lb tanks I rotate out. Cheap to fill and safely
>
> stored
>
>>in my HD rack mounted inside the XJ. I have no real fear of it being
>
> inside
>
>>as long as it is secure. I love the thing. Once in a while I grab it and
>
> use
>
>>it to power my Nail gun too.
>>KH
>>
>>"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>>news:br015t$un7$1@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>>Paul Calman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's where it gets wierd. one company is saying they get 84 Ft^2 out
>>
>>of a
>>
>>>>cylinder the same size as a 40 Ft^2 O2 cyl, because it's CO2 in a
>
> liquid
>
>>>>state.
>>>
>>>Heh. Forgot about that. Absolutely right. A lot more gas is generated by
>>>evaporating C02 than you can get out of a scuba tank.
>>>
>>>Go with the C02, or nitrogen.
>>>
>>>Just don't lay the tank on its' side while filling your tires.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's what I'm trying to figure, is a tank under 2000 PSI going to
>>
>>actually
>>
>>>>deliver only 40 Ft^2 when an 800 Psi tank of CO2 will deliver 84 ?
>
> The
>
>>>>sites of CO2 tank makers only compare with a 150 Psi air tank, not a
>>
>>scuba
>>
>>>>cyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
