clutch or transmission trouble
02-24-2004, 06:47 PM
#31
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
WHOA!
I said that you had a master cylinder problem, but I said that before I got
to the part where you said you have a 25-year old Jeep. You ought to have a
mechanical linkage instead of a hydraulic one.
I think your troubles are rooted in the linkage and not the clutch itself.
"sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual
> transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift
> (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday,
> I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it
> to go into gear.
>
> Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level
> surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the
> way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st
> and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse!
>
> Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the
> way in!!!
>
> I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought
> I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple
> quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a
> transmission shop.
>
> This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
I said that you had a master cylinder problem, but I said that before I got
to the part where you said you have a 25-year old Jeep. You ought to have a
mechanical linkage instead of a hydraulic one.
I think your troubles are rooted in the linkage and not the clutch itself.
"sm3gurpal" <elambeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:88f4ec61.0402232000.2ac26e94@posting.google.c om...
> Over the last 2-3 days of moderate highway driving, my manual
> transmission jeep has gotten noticeably harder and harder to shift
> (not wanting to go into gear, especially the lower gears.) Yesterday,
> I was having to double, triple, and quadruple clutch just to get it
> to go into gear.
>
> Today I started it up and went to drive it, starting it on a level
> surface. In doing so I noticed that even when the clutch is all the
> way to the floor... the jeep is still pulling lightly forward in 1st
> and 2nd gear, and backward in reverse!
>
> Holy crap! It's not supposed to do that when the clutch is all the
> way in!!!
>
> I suspect I've probably got major transmission problems, but I thought
> I would ask here and see if there are any relatively simple
> quick-fixes I could try first, before I turn my wallet over to a
> transmission shop.
>
> This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
02-24-2004, 11:10 PM
#32
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
what am I looking for?
> You have a leak in your hydralic system. Slave, Master or both. Check your
> fluid level. Top it off and see what happens.
>
> Scott
>
anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
what am I looking for?
> You have a leak in your hydralic system. Slave, Master or both. Check your
> fluid level. Top it off and see what happens.
>
> Scott
>
02-24-2004, 11:10 PM
#33
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
what am I looking for?
> You have a leak in your hydralic system. Slave, Master or both. Check your
> fluid level. Top it off and see what happens.
>
> Scott
>
anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
what am I looking for?
> You have a leak in your hydralic system. Slave, Master or both. Check your
> fluid level. Top it off and see what happens.
>
> Scott
>
02-24-2004, 11:10 PM
#34
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
what am I looking for?
> You have a leak in your hydralic system. Slave, Master or both. Check your
> fluid level. Top it off and see what happens.
>
> Scott
>
anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
what am I looking for?
> You have a leak in your hydralic system. Slave, Master or both. Check your
> fluid level. Top it off and see what happens.
>
> Scott
>
02-24-2004, 11:12 PM
#35
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
> I suspect you have clutch issues not transmission. Does it grind when
> trying to go into reverse at a standstill?
>
Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have
been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running
to get it to go in.)
> > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
>
> That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics
> associated with the clutch.
Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much
newer than 79.
It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you
> release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the
> floorboard?
Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly
even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to
disengage.
> trying to go into reverse at a standstill?
>
Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have
been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running
to get it to go in.)
> > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
>
> That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics
> associated with the clutch.
Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much
newer than 79.
It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you
> release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the
> floorboard?
Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly
even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to
disengage.
02-24-2004, 11:12 PM
#36
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
> I suspect you have clutch issues not transmission. Does it grind when
> trying to go into reverse at a standstill?
>
Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have
been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running
to get it to go in.)
> > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
>
> That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics
> associated with the clutch.
Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much
newer than 79.
It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you
> release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the
> floorboard?
Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly
even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to
disengage.
> trying to go into reverse at a standstill?
>
Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have
been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running
to get it to go in.)
> > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
>
> That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics
> associated with the clutch.
Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much
newer than 79.
It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you
> release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the
> floorboard?
Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly
even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to
disengage.
02-24-2004, 11:12 PM
#37
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
> I suspect you have clutch issues not transmission. Does it grind when
> trying to go into reverse at a standstill?
>
Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have
been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running
to get it to go in.)
> > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
>
> That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics
> associated with the clutch.
Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much
newer than 79.
It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you
> release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the
> floorboard?
Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly
even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to
disengage.
> trying to go into reverse at a standstill?
>
Most definitely... assuming I can even get it into gear. (I have
been having to turn off the ignition and shift it with nothing running
to get it to go in.)
> > This is a 25 year old jeep, but the transmission and clutch (NV4500
> > and Centerforce III) are allegedly new as of 10,000 miles ago.
>
> That makes it a 79 model (or so), so there will not be any hydraulics
> associated with the clutch.
Yes but as I said, it is an aftermarket Centerforce III clutch, much
newer than 79.
It may just be a linkage adjustment. When you
> release the clutch, where does it begin to catch in relation to the
> floorboard?
Not sure I understand your question. It is still engaged slightly
even when the clutch is all the way depressed; I can't get it to
disengage.
02-24-2004, 11:49 PM
#38
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Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Many of us believe you should have the mechanical linkage, that
uses a pull rod from your clutch pedal and pulls through a bell crank
that pivots from the frame to the engine block, where the problem may be
the brass half bushing may have worn and fell out at number 8 of the
picture at: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ or look for breaks in the
levers from the cross bar. If you can't find the problem the readjust
the push rod at number 22.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sm3gurpal wrote:
>
> Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
> anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
> what am I looking for?
uses a pull rod from your clutch pedal and pulls through a bell crank
that pivots from the frame to the engine block, where the problem may be
the brass half bushing may have worn and fell out at number 8 of the
picture at: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ or look for breaks in the
levers from the cross bar. If you can't find the problem the readjust
the push rod at number 22.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sm3gurpal wrote:
>
> Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
> anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
> what am I looking for?
02-24-2004, 11:49 PM
#39
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Posts: n/a
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Many of us believe you should have the mechanical linkage, that
uses a pull rod from your clutch pedal and pulls through a bell crank
that pivots from the frame to the engine block, where the problem may be
the brass half bushing may have worn and fell out at number 8 of the
picture at: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ or look for breaks in the
levers from the cross bar. If you can't find the problem the readjust
the push rod at number 22.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sm3gurpal wrote:
>
> Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
> anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
> what am I looking for?
uses a pull rod from your clutch pedal and pulls through a bell crank
that pivots from the frame to the engine block, where the problem may be
the brass half bushing may have worn and fell out at number 8 of the
picture at: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ or look for breaks in the
levers from the cross bar. If you can't find the problem the readjust
the push rod at number 22.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sm3gurpal wrote:
>
> Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
> anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
> what am I looking for?
02-24-2004, 11:49 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: clutch or transmission trouble
Many of us believe you should have the mechanical linkage, that
uses a pull rod from your clutch pedal and pulls through a bell crank
that pivots from the frame to the engine block, where the problem may be
the brass half bushing may have worn and fell out at number 8 of the
picture at: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ or look for breaks in the
levers from the cross bar. If you can't find the problem the readjust
the push rod at number 22.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sm3gurpal wrote:
>
> Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
> anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
> what am I looking for?
uses a pull rod from your clutch pedal and pulls through a bell crank
that pivots from the frame to the engine block, where the problem may be
the brass half bushing may have worn and fell out at number 8 of the
picture at: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ or look for breaks in the
levers from the cross bar. If you can't find the problem the readjust
the push rod at number 22.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
sm3gurpal wrote:
>
> Not to sound like a total doofus, but, this is something I don't know
> anything about. Where should I look for the hydraulic cylinders, and
> what am I looking for?
