Clutch question
#31
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Re: Clutch question
Man I remember this old Western Star I learned to drive a semi on that
shifted worse if you used the clutch pedal....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Tell me about it. The V6 Jeeps used to regularly throw the a
> dampener spring and jam it in the pressure plate, if you spun them
> tight.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
> > engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
> > then limp home in 3rd.
> >
> > If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
> > engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
> > can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
> > is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
> > isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
> >
> > If yours has the clutch interlock, it might be at the pedal so you hold
> > the broken pedal down anyway so the starter turns. Or I believe you
> > have an empty fuse hole labeled auto trans and you just stick a fuse in
> > there to bypass the clutch interlock.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
shifted worse if you used the clutch pedal....
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Tell me about it. The V6 Jeeps used to regularly throw the a
> dampener spring and jam it in the pressure plate, if you spun them
> tight.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
> > engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
> > then limp home in 3rd.
> >
> > If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
> > engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
> > can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
> > is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
> > isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
> >
> > If yours has the clutch interlock, it might be at the pedal so you hold
> > the broken pedal down anyway so the starter turns. Or I believe you
> > have an empty fuse hole labeled auto trans and you just stick a fuse in
> > there to bypass the clutch interlock.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Clutch question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
> engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
> then limp home in 3rd.
>
> If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
> engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
> can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
> is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
> isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
>
> If yours has the clutch interlock, it might be at the pedal so you hold
> the broken pedal down anyway so the starter turns. Or I believe you
> have an empty fuse hole labeled auto trans and you just stick a fuse in
> there to bypass the clutch interlock.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
Mike,
Thanks, I didn't know that. Knowing that would have saved the tow bill. Now
I just need to borrow someone's jeep to practice...
Here's what I think happened: one of the two clips that hold the release
bearing to the release lever broke. The lever was then able to move past the
bearing, allowing the slave to extend past the point of its normal travel.
When I went to shift to second, the slave came apart. I've ordered new
master/slave cylinder assembly from the dealer. The dealer price was
actually $40 cheaper than the local napa!
Doug
#36
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Re: Clutch question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FB15B3D.E7019827@sympatico.ca...
> Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
> engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
> then limp home in 3rd.
>
> If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
> engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
> can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
> is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
> isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
>
> If yours has the clutch interlock, it might be at the pedal so you hold
> the broken pedal down anyway so the starter turns. Or I believe you
> have an empty fuse hole labeled auto trans and you just stick a fuse in
> there to bypass the clutch interlock.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
Mike,
Thanks, I didn't know that. Knowing that would have saved the tow bill. Now
I just need to borrow someone's jeep to practice...
Here's what I think happened: one of the two clips that hold the release
bearing to the release lever broke. The lever was then able to move past the
bearing, allowing the slave to extend past the point of its normal travel.
When I went to shift to second, the slave came apart. I've ordered new
master/slave cylinder assembly from the dealer. The dealer price was
actually $40 cheaper than the local napa!
Doug
#37
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Re: Clutch question
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FB15B3D.E7019827@sympatico.ca...
> Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
> engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
> then limp home in 3rd.
>
> If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
> engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
> can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
> is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
> isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
>
> If yours has the clutch interlock, it might be at the pedal so you hold
> the broken pedal down anyway so the starter turns. Or I believe you
> have an empty fuse hole labeled auto trans and you just stick a fuse in
> there to bypass the clutch interlock.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
Mike,
Thanks, I didn't know that. Knowing that would have saved the tow bill. Now
I just need to borrow someone's jeep to practice...
Here's what I think happened: one of the two clips that hold the release
bearing to the release lever broke. The lever was then able to move past the
bearing, allowing the slave to extend past the point of its normal travel.
When I went to shift to second, the slave came apart. I've ordered new
master/slave cylinder assembly from the dealer. The dealer price was
actually $40 cheaper than the local napa!
Doug
#38
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Re: Clutch question
In article <3FB15B3D.E7019827@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
>engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
>then limp home in 3rd.
>
>If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
>engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
>can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
>is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
>isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
I think you might be confused about "double clutching". Shifting without
pushing the clutch is not to be confused with double clutching. Double clutching
is when you push in the clutch, shift into neutral, let go of the clutch,
push in the clutch again to disengage syncros, shift into the next gear.
That's how you had to do driving the old VW bugs w/o syncros in the tranny.
I still double clutch to save wear on my syncros whenever possible.
Since the OP lost his clutch usage, he would have to shift as you described
and that is without any load at a certain RPM. Truckers do this all the
time since they only use the clutch to start out from a dead stop.
Right Bill? :) huh? huh? huh? :)
Real Truckers don't use clutches....
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
>engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
>then limp home in 3rd.
>
>If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
>engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
>can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
>is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
>isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
I think you might be confused about "double clutching". Shifting without
pushing the clutch is not to be confused with double clutching. Double clutching
is when you push in the clutch, shift into neutral, let go of the clutch,
push in the clutch again to disengage syncros, shift into the next gear.
That's how you had to do driving the old VW bugs w/o syncros in the tranny.
I still double clutch to save wear on my syncros whenever possible.
Since the OP lost his clutch usage, he would have to shift as you described
and that is without any load at a certain RPM. Truckers do this all the
time since they only use the clutch to start out from a dead stop.
Right Bill? :) huh? huh? huh? :)
Real Truckers don't use clutches....
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Re: Clutch question
In article <3FB15B3D.E7019827@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
>engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
>then limp home in 3rd.
>
>If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
>engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
>can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
>is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
>isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
I think you might be confused about "double clutching". Shifting without
pushing the clutch is not to be confused with double clutching. Double clutching
is when you push in the clutch, shift into neutral, let go of the clutch,
push in the clutch again to disengage syncros, shift into the next gear.
That's how you had to do driving the old VW bugs w/o syncros in the tranny.
I still double clutch to save wear on my syncros whenever possible.
Since the OP lost his clutch usage, he would have to shift as you described
and that is without any load at a certain RPM. Truckers do this all the
time since they only use the clutch to start out from a dead stop.
Right Bill? :) huh? huh? huh? :)
Real Truckers don't use clutches....
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
>engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
>then limp home in 3rd.
>
>If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
>engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
>can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
>is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
>isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
I think you might be confused about "double clutching". Shifting without
pushing the clutch is not to be confused with double clutching. Double clutching
is when you push in the clutch, shift into neutral, let go of the clutch,
push in the clutch again to disengage syncros, shift into the next gear.
That's how you had to do driving the old VW bugs w/o syncros in the tranny.
I still double clutch to save wear on my syncros whenever possible.
Since the OP lost his clutch usage, he would have to shift as you described
and that is without any load at a certain RPM. Truckers do this all the
time since they only use the clutch to start out from a dead stop.
Right Bill? :) huh? huh? huh? :)
Real Truckers don't use clutches....
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Re: Clutch question
In article <3FB15B3D.E7019827@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
>engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
>then limp home in 3rd.
>
>If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
>engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
>can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
>is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
>isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
I think you might be confused about "double clutching". Shifting without
pushing the clutch is not to be confused with double clutching. Double clutching
is when you push in the clutch, shift into neutral, let go of the clutch,
push in the clutch again to disengage syncros, shift into the next gear.
That's how you had to do driving the old VW bugs w/o syncros in the tranny.
I still double clutch to save wear on my syncros whenever possible.
Since the OP lost his clutch usage, he would have to shift as you described
and that is without any load at a certain RPM. Truckers do this all the
time since they only use the clutch to start out from a dead stop.
Right Bill? :) huh? huh? huh? :)
Real Truckers don't use clutches....
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Just a thought for you, but you do know you can just be stopped with the
>engine off and put it in 3rd then hit the starter and go eh.... You can
>then limp home in 3rd.
>
>If you need to stop, you can let off the gas so it isn't pulling or
>engine braking and bang the shifter to neutral. If you are good, you
>can even shift up to 4th this way with a rev in the neutral point. That
>is called 'double clutching' if the clutch is in there, but a clutch
>isn't needed, a power shift can be done with a little practice.
I think you might be confused about "double clutching". Shifting without
pushing the clutch is not to be confused with double clutching. Double clutching
is when you push in the clutch, shift into neutral, let go of the clutch,
push in the clutch again to disengage syncros, shift into the next gear.
That's how you had to do driving the old VW bugs w/o syncros in the tranny.
I still double clutch to save wear on my syncros whenever possible.
Since the OP lost his clutch usage, he would have to shift as you described
and that is without any load at a certain RPM. Truckers do this all the
time since they only use the clutch to start out from a dead stop.
Right Bill? :) huh? huh? huh? :)
Real Truckers don't use clutches....
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