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Doug 11-10-2003 01:53 PM

Clutch question
 
All, I need some advice:

I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other day
on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it towed
home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
happened (or so I think I know!)

Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like a
retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much fluid
inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...

My questions are then:

Should the clutch be replaced?
How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?


Thanks!
Doug



jdarg 11-10-2003 03:19 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
The entire clutch hydraulic assembly, master/slave and line, pre-filled and
pre-bled from the factory, costs about $100 if this helps your decision at
all.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:y8Rrb.20109$y95.18585@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> All, I need some advice:
>
> I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other

day
> on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it

towed
> home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> happened (or so I think I know!)
>
> Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like

a
> retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
> slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much

fluid
> inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
>
> My questions are then:
>
> Should the clutch be replaced?
> How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
> the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Doug
>
>




jdarg 11-10-2003 03:19 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
The entire clutch hydraulic assembly, master/slave and line, pre-filled and
pre-bled from the factory, costs about $100 if this helps your decision at
all.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:y8Rrb.20109$y95.18585@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> All, I need some advice:
>
> I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other

day
> on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it

towed
> home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> happened (or so I think I know!)
>
> Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like

a
> retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
> slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much

fluid
> inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
>
> My questions are then:
>
> Should the clutch be replaced?
> How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
> the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Doug
>
>




jdarg 11-10-2003 03:19 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
The entire clutch hydraulic assembly, master/slave and line, pre-filled and
pre-bled from the factory, costs about $100 if this helps your decision at
all.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:y8Rrb.20109$y95.18585@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> All, I need some advice:
>
> I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other

day
> on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it

towed
> home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> happened (or so I think I know!)
>
> Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like

a
> retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
> slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much

fluid
> inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
>
> My questions are then:
>
> Should the clutch be replaced?
> How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
> the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Doug
>
>




CRWLR 11-10-2003 03:36 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
Pre- filled and bled from the factory? How do they do this and still ship
it?



"jdarg" <jdarg@spam.com> wrote in message
news:54ef076773b3351b669144a9551c810c@news.newsbin .com...
> The entire clutch hydraulic assembly, master/slave and line, pre-filled

and
> pre-bled from the factory, costs about $100 if this helps your decision at
> all.
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:y8Rrb.20109$y95.18585@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > All, I need some advice:
> >
> > I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> > around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other

> day
> > on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it

> towed
> > home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> > happened (or so I think I know!)
> >
> > Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks

like
> a
> > retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart.

The
> > slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much

> fluid
> > inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
> >
> > My questions are then:
> >
> > Should the clutch be replaced?
> > How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> > While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate

for
> > the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> > Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> > any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Doug
> >
> >

>
>



CRWLR 11-10-2003 03:36 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
Pre- filled and bled from the factory? How do they do this and still ship
it?



"jdarg" <jdarg@spam.com> wrote in message
news:54ef076773b3351b669144a9551c810c@news.newsbin .com...
> The entire clutch hydraulic assembly, master/slave and line, pre-filled

and
> pre-bled from the factory, costs about $100 if this helps your decision at
> all.
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:y8Rrb.20109$y95.18585@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > All, I need some advice:
> >
> > I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> > around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other

> day
> > on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it

> towed
> > home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> > happened (or so I think I know!)
> >
> > Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks

like
> a
> > retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart.

The
> > slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much

> fluid
> > inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
> >
> > My questions are then:
> >
> > Should the clutch be replaced?
> > How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> > While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate

for
> > the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> > Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> > any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Doug
> >
> >

>
>



CRWLR 11-10-2003 03:36 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
Pre- filled and bled from the factory? How do they do this and still ship
it?



"jdarg" <jdarg@spam.com> wrote in message
news:54ef076773b3351b669144a9551c810c@news.newsbin .com...
> The entire clutch hydraulic assembly, master/slave and line, pre-filled

and
> pre-bled from the factory, costs about $100 if this helps your decision at
> all.
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:y8Rrb.20109$y95.18585@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > All, I need some advice:
> >
> > I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> > around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other

> day
> > on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it

> towed
> > home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> > happened (or so I think I know!)
> >
> > Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks

like
> a
> > retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart.

The
> > slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much

> fluid
> > inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
> >
> > My questions are then:
> >
> > Should the clutch be replaced?
> > How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> > While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate

for
> > the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> > Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> > any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Doug
> >
> >

>
>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 04:02 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
Hi Doug,
What do you mean, "it decided it didn't want to go any further."
You mean the clutch was slipping or it wouldn't disengage, and you
didn't want to chance being stalled at a stop light? Anyway, while you
have it apart replace the disc, and inspect the pressure plate. I
believe the clips you write of are meant to break, they hold the
cylinder together during assembly: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> All, I need some advice:
>
> I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other day
> on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it towed
> home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> happened (or so I think I know!)
>
> Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like a
> retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
> slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much fluid
> inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
>
> My questions are then:
>
> Should the clutch be replaced?
> How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
> the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
>
> Thanks!
> Doug


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 04:02 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
Hi Doug,
What do you mean, "it decided it didn't want to go any further."
You mean the clutch was slipping or it wouldn't disengage, and you
didn't want to chance being stalled at a stop light? Anyway, while you
have it apart replace the disc, and inspect the pressure plate. I
believe the clips you write of are meant to break, they hold the
cylinder together during assembly: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> All, I need some advice:
>
> I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other day
> on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it towed
> home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> happened (or so I think I know!)
>
> Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like a
> retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
> slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much fluid
> inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
>
> My questions are then:
>
> Should the clutch be replaced?
> How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
> the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
>
> Thanks!
> Doug


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-10-2003 04:02 PM

Re: Clutch question
 
Hi Doug,
What do you mean, "it decided it didn't want to go any further."
You mean the clutch was slipping or it wouldn't disengage, and you
didn't want to chance being stalled at a stop light? Anyway, while you
have it apart replace the disc, and inspect the pressure plate. I
believe the clips you write of are meant to break, they hold the
cylinder together during assembly: http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> All, I need some advice:
>
> I have a '94 YJ with a 4.0 and 5sp transmission. I put a new clutch in
> around this time last year, with some advice from this group. The other day
> on the way home it decided it didn't want to go any further. I had it towed
> home, and was able to get things far enough apart where I can see what
> happened (or so I think I know!)
>
> Based on the parts I retrieved from inside the bell housing, it looks like a
> retaining clip broke, which allowed the slave cylinder to come apart. The
> slave cylinder was in several pieces, but there didn't seem to be much fluid
> inside the housing, so I'm hoping most leaked outside...
>
> My questions are then:
>
> Should the clutch be replaced?
> How can I tell if the fluid damaged it?
> While it is apart, anything else I should consider replacing? I'd hate for
> the next "thing" to break once its all back together!
> Should I replace the master/slave cylinder or rebuild it?
> any one have any experience doing either/which on is better?
>
> Thanks!
> Doug



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