Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
That sounds scary! Well, I must get to work so check your responses tomorrow. Thanks again, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine
shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read this: http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it you'll like it... :-) Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high altitude trails whithout a burp. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45d08961$0$21646$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high > altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. > > I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant > inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages > in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have > to be gobbed up with glue or something.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Highcountry wrote: >> I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they >> change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it >> would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 >> completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the >> throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I >> am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is >> great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" >> tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply >> full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins >> accelerating and builds speed. >> >> The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan >> on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 >> feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up >> for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since >> my engine runs perfectly. >> >> Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it >> when the time comes. >> >> Thanks, Bruce >> |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine
shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read this: http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it you'll like it... :-) Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high altitude trails whithout a burp. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45d08961$0$21646$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high > altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. > > I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant > inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages > in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have > to be gobbed up with glue or something.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Highcountry wrote: >> I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they >> change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it >> would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 >> completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the >> throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I >> am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is >> great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" >> tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply >> full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins >> accelerating and builds speed. >> >> The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan >> on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 >> feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up >> for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since >> my engine runs perfectly. >> >> Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it >> when the time comes. >> >> Thanks, Bruce >> |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine
shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read this: http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it you'll like it... :-) Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high altitude trails whithout a burp. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45d08961$0$21646$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high > altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. > > I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant > inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages > in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have > to be gobbed up with glue or something.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Highcountry wrote: >> I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they >> change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it >> would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 >> completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the >> throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I >> am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is >> great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" >> tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply >> full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins >> accelerating and builds speed. >> >> The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan >> on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 >> feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up >> for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since >> my engine runs perfectly. >> >> Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it >> when the time comes. >> >> Thanks, Bruce >> |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine
shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read this: http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it you'll like it... :-) Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high altitude trails whithout a burp. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45d08961$0$21646$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com... > If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high > altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. > > I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant > inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages > in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have > to be gobbed up with glue or something.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Highcountry wrote: >> I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they >> change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it >> would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 >> completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the >> throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I >> am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is >> great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" >> tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply >> full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins >> accelerating and builds speed. >> >> The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan >> on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 >> feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up >> for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since >> my engine runs perfectly. >> >> Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it >> when the time comes. >> >> Thanks, Bruce >> |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I have a spare 258 sitting in the garage and a spare 4.0 sitting in
front under my 'shade tree' already stripped ready to pull..... I could use the 258 guts in the 4.0 and drop a nice carb and intake and headers on and just rock with a 4.7 or so stroker.... If I am gonna build, I am gonna build... Mike Rich wrote: > MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine > shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of > the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod > and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never > have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not > to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big > difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read > this: > http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm > I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it > you'll like it... :-) > Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high > altitude trails whithout a burp. > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I have a spare 258 sitting in the garage and a spare 4.0 sitting in
front under my 'shade tree' already stripped ready to pull..... I could use the 258 guts in the 4.0 and drop a nice carb and intake and headers on and just rock with a 4.7 or so stroker.... If I am gonna build, I am gonna build... Mike Rich wrote: > MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine > shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of > the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod > and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never > have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not > to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big > difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read > this: > http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm > I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it > you'll like it... :-) > Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high > altitude trails whithout a burp. > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I have a spare 258 sitting in the garage and a spare 4.0 sitting in
front under my 'shade tree' already stripped ready to pull..... I could use the 258 guts in the 4.0 and drop a nice carb and intake and headers on and just rock with a 4.7 or so stroker.... If I am gonna build, I am gonna build... Mike Rich wrote: > MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine > shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of > the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod > and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never > have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not > to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big > difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read > this: > http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm > I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it > you'll like it... :-) > Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high > altitude trails whithout a burp. > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I have a spare 258 sitting in the garage and a spare 4.0 sitting in
front under my 'shade tree' already stripped ready to pull..... I could use the 258 guts in the 4.0 and drop a nice carb and intake and headers on and just rock with a 4.7 or so stroker.... If I am gonna build, I am gonna build... Mike Rich wrote: > MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine > shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of > the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod > and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never > have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not > to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big > difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read > this: > http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm > I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it > you'll like it... :-) > Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high > altitude trails whithout a burp. > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Rich, linky don't work.
Rich wrote: > MIke, I wouldn't trust "gobs of Glue" either. I took my head to a machine > shop and had freezeplugs put in. The passages in question are on one side of > the head not in the back. I've known a number of folks who've done the mod > and I've been privy to welded, and JB welded as well as freeze plugs. Never > have I known of anyone who had a problem with any of those methods.... Not > to say no one ever has, but if you do it right you are fine. There is a big > difference between both heads as far a economy of performance goes. read > this: > http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm > I used this article as a guide to do my work. Mike don't be jealous.. try it > you'll like it... :-) > Since doing the mod, I've been to Colorado and hit a few pretty high > altitude trails whithout a burp. > > |
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