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CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of prices from different manufacturers. My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? Thanks in advance, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I used a bestop seat bracket. Works like the original. I had a home built
one for years but now my kids are older I wanted to be able to flip the seat forward so they can get in easier, otherwise, I'd have kept the fixed units I made. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171117458.392649.176110@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com... > > I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I used a bestop seat bracket. Works like the original. I had a home built
one for years but now my kids are older I wanted to be able to flip the seat forward so they can get in easier, otherwise, I'd have kept the fixed units I made. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171117458.392649.176110@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com... > > I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I used a bestop seat bracket. Works like the original. I had a home built
one for years but now my kids are older I wanted to be able to flip the seat forward so they can get in easier, otherwise, I'd have kept the fixed units I made. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171117458.392649.176110@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com... > > I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I used a bestop seat bracket. Works like the original. I had a home built
one for years but now my kids are older I wanted to be able to flip the seat forward so they can get in easier, otherwise, I'd have kept the fixed units I made. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171117458.392649.176110@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com... > > I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Highcountry wrote:
> I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > Unless you're in an absolutely desperate situation I'd recommend ebay. Stock seat brackets are fairly common and relatively cheap. Damn sight cheaper than aftermarket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Seat-...spagenameZWDVW That search was for "cj seat brackets". Modifying the search may yield other results. Good luck. |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Highcountry wrote:
> I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > Unless you're in an absolutely desperate situation I'd recommend ebay. Stock seat brackets are fairly common and relatively cheap. Damn sight cheaper than aftermarket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Seat-...spagenameZWDVW That search was for "cj seat brackets". Modifying the search may yield other results. Good luck. |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Highcountry wrote:
> I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > Unless you're in an absolutely desperate situation I'd recommend ebay. Stock seat brackets are fairly common and relatively cheap. Damn sight cheaper than aftermarket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Seat-...spagenameZWDVW That search was for "cj seat brackets". Modifying the search may yield other results. Good luck. |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Highcountry wrote:
> I need to replace the seat mounting assemblies on my 86 CJ. It has > stock seats and the mounts are worn out. I have found all sorts of > prices from different manufacturers. > > My question is this: Has anyone found something they can recommend? > > Thanks in advance, Bruce > Unless you're in an absolutely desperate situation I'd recommend ebay. Stock seat brackets are fairly common and relatively cheap. Damn sight cheaper than aftermarket. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-...spagenameZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Seat-...spagenameZWDVW That search was for "cj seat brackets". Modifying the search may yield other results. Good luck. |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something useless! Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger and seat to show up the worn pivots! Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something useless! Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger and seat to show up the worn pivots! Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something useless! Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger and seat to show up the worn pivots! Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something useless! Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger and seat to show up the worn pivots! Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I've seen both. OMIX are ok but lightly built. They are made in China, ie
less quality, inch measurements converted to metric to build from then built by slave labor. Besttop are as good or better than OE. If you can find stock on Ebay go for it. I'd want to inspect them first. OE ones will have high mileage so carefully check the pivot points. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I've seen both. OMIX are ok but lightly built. They are made in China, ie
less quality, inch measurements converted to metric to build from then built by slave labor. Besttop are as good or better than OE. If you can find stock on Ebay go for it. I'd want to inspect them first. OE ones will have high mileage so carefully check the pivot points. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I've seen both. OMIX are ok but lightly built. They are made in China, ie
less quality, inch measurements converted to metric to build from then built by slave labor. Besttop are as good or better than OE. If you can find stock on Ebay go for it. I'd want to inspect them first. OE ones will have high mileage so carefully check the pivot points. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I've seen both. OMIX are ok but lightly built. They are made in China, ie
less quality, inch measurements converted to metric to build from then built by slave labor. Besttop are as good or better than OE. If you can find stock on Ebay go for it. I'd want to inspect them first. OE ones will have high mileage so carefully check the pivot points. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Plug weld the holes and redrill.
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Plug weld the holes and redrill.
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Plug weld the holes and redrill.
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Plug weld the holes and redrill.
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171130625.405197.229750@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com... > > I saw those Bestop versions, goodness they are expensive but would > most likely be as good or better than the originals! I also saw some > offered by Omix-Ada which were less expensive. However, not being > able to actually inspect them in person I am wary of buying something > useless! > > Mine old ones look brand new, but the pivot points are wallowed out > which lets the seat wobble around too much for my taste. I would be > paranoid of buying used ones, because when I removed mine from the > Jeep they appeared to be ok. It takes the weight of the passenger > and seat to show up the worn pivots! > > Thanks for the advice folks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Thanks to all for the options.
Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped down to about 3/8". I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would want to replace them eventually. Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If not, what brought you to that step? |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Thanks to all for the options.
Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped down to about 3/8". I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would want to replace them eventually. Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If not, what brought you to that step? |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Thanks to all for the options.
Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped down to about 3/8". I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would want to replace them eventually. Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If not, what brought you to that step? |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
Thanks to all for the options.
Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped down to about 3/8". I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would want to replace them eventually. Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If not, what brought you to that step? |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I did the Fuel injection install as part of an engine overhaul. The install
was very easy and the instructions are clear. I really liked the changes afterwards, better mileage and performance especially. I wanted to do the head as well but held off for a while. I'm one of those guys that sometimes waits for a "deal" to come along. I did and sure enough ran into a head for $200 if I remember that was completely rebuilt. I did the swap and it really improved things even more. If I had a stock 258 and was contemplating dong it again, I would if I lived in California still. Engine swaps in Commiefornia are real hard to get by the CARB. However, since I now live in Rude Island, I'd consider doing a swap for a fuel injected chevy 350. Do I regret it? Hell no. I have a very strong running 6cyl, that will put some V8's to shame, all with stock parts. If you decide to go that route, I'll be glad to help. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171200257.793066.230700@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > Thanks to all for the options. > > Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll > drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever > disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a > mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one > another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and > seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from > the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to > operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped > down to about 3/8". > > I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make > it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would > want to replace them eventually. > > Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I > would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the > description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the > MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If > not, what brought you to that step? > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I did the Fuel injection install as part of an engine overhaul. The install
was very easy and the instructions are clear. I really liked the changes afterwards, better mileage and performance especially. I wanted to do the head as well but held off for a while. I'm one of those guys that sometimes waits for a "deal" to come along. I did and sure enough ran into a head for $200 if I remember that was completely rebuilt. I did the swap and it really improved things even more. If I had a stock 258 and was contemplating dong it again, I would if I lived in California still. Engine swaps in Commiefornia are real hard to get by the CARB. However, since I now live in Rude Island, I'd consider doing a swap for a fuel injected chevy 350. Do I regret it? Hell no. I have a very strong running 6cyl, that will put some V8's to shame, all with stock parts. If you decide to go that route, I'll be glad to help. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171200257.793066.230700@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > Thanks to all for the options. > > Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll > drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever > disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a > mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one > another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and > seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from > the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to > operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped > down to about 3/8". > > I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make > it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would > want to replace them eventually. > > Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I > would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the > description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the > MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If > not, what brought you to that step? > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I did the Fuel injection install as part of an engine overhaul. The install
was very easy and the instructions are clear. I really liked the changes afterwards, better mileage and performance especially. I wanted to do the head as well but held off for a while. I'm one of those guys that sometimes waits for a "deal" to come along. I did and sure enough ran into a head for $200 if I remember that was completely rebuilt. I did the swap and it really improved things even more. If I had a stock 258 and was contemplating dong it again, I would if I lived in California still. Engine swaps in Commiefornia are real hard to get by the CARB. However, since I now live in Rude Island, I'd consider doing a swap for a fuel injected chevy 350. Do I regret it? Hell no. I have a very strong running 6cyl, that will put some V8's to shame, all with stock parts. If you decide to go that route, I'll be glad to help. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171200257.793066.230700@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > Thanks to all for the options. > > Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll > drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever > disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a > mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one > another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and > seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from > the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to > operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped > down to about 3/8". > > I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make > it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would > want to replace them eventually. > > Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I > would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the > description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the > MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If > not, what brought you to that step? > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I did the Fuel injection install as part of an engine overhaul. The install
was very easy and the instructions are clear. I really liked the changes afterwards, better mileage and performance especially. I wanted to do the head as well but held off for a while. I'm one of those guys that sometimes waits for a "deal" to come along. I did and sure enough ran into a head for $200 if I remember that was completely rebuilt. I did the swap and it really improved things even more. If I had a stock 258 and was contemplating dong it again, I would if I lived in California still. Engine swaps in Commiefornia are real hard to get by the CARB. However, since I now live in Rude Island, I'd consider doing a swap for a fuel injected chevy 350. Do I regret it? Hell no. I have a very strong running 6cyl, that will put some V8's to shame, all with stock parts. If you decide to go that route, I'll be glad to help. -- Rich Harris 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver shackles, and a couple more fun tricks. "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1171200257.793066.230700@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > Thanks to all for the options. > > Curtis, my first reaction when I discovered the problem was "I'll > drill those suckers and use bronze bushings!". Well, if you ever > disassemble one of these contraptions, you will find it to be a > mousetrap! Some of the arms must be stationary with respect to one > another while allowing that "box section" to pivot on the floor and > seat mounts. Upon disassembly, you find that the PROBLEM stems from > the plastic bushing that is used for the pivot to make it easy to > operate and that hole is roughly 7/8" while the others are stepped > down to about 3/8". > > I can see where with some creative welding and rigging that I can make > it work, however I have kept my CJ as original as possible so I would > want to replace them eventually. > > Rich, thanks for the "Heads Up" on the Chinese garbage from Omix as I > would not install them if they were free! Also, looking at the > description of your CJ I was wondering how satisfied you are with the > MPFI conversion? Also, was it necessary to change the head? If > not, what brought you to that step? > > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins accelerating and builds speed. The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since my engine runs perfectly. Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it when the time comes. Thanks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins accelerating and builds speed. The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since my engine runs perfectly. Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it when the time comes. Thanks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins accelerating and builds speed. The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since my engine runs perfectly. Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it when the time comes. Thanks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins accelerating and builds speed. The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since my engine runs perfectly. Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it when the time comes. Thanks, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high
altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have to be gobbed up with glue or something.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Highcountry wrote: > I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they > change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it > would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 > completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the > throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I > am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is > great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" > tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply > full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins > accelerating and builds speed. > > The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan > on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 > feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up > for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since > my engine runs perfectly. > > Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it > when the time comes. > > Thanks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high
altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have to be gobbed up with glue or something.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Highcountry wrote: > I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they > change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it > would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 > completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the > throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I > am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is > great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" > tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply > full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins > accelerating and builds speed. > > The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan > on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 > feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up > for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since > my engine runs perfectly. > > Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it > when the time comes. > > Thanks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high
altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have to be gobbed up with glue or something.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Highcountry wrote: > I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they > change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it > would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 > completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the > throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I > am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is > great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" > tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply > full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins > accelerating and builds speed. > > The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan > on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 > feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up > for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since > my engine runs perfectly. > > Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it > when the time comes. > > Thanks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
If you are still running stock, there is a wire you ground for high
altitude mix control. It comes out of the loom near the dipstick. I personally can't imagine me 'trusting' gobs of glue to hold my coolant inside my engine like you have to do on the 4.0 head. The water passages in the rear don't match up and overhang the block so all these holes have to be gobbed up with glue or something.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Highcountry wrote: > I wasn't aware that the 4.0 head was an improvement, what did they > change? I definitely don't want to go the V8 route, even if I did it > would have to be an AMC. I had a new CJ in 1976 with the 304 > completely stock and it was TOO powerful. Any time you punched the > throttle in 1st gear you had both rear tires spinning instantly! I > am more into gobs of low end slow torque and even carbureted my 258 is > great at that. It has 3.31 gears, Manual Transmission and 30" > tires. On level roads I can have it Idling in High gear and apply > full throttle without any jerking or pinging, it just begins > accelerating and builds speed. > > The major reason I would like the Injection on my 258 is that I plan > on taking it to the Rockies and spend some time at 10,000 to 12,000 > feet which tends to cause an over rich mixture in a carburetor set up > for 300 feet like mine! I doubt I would need to change heads, since > my engine runs perfectly. > > Thank you so much for offering to help, and I WILL take you up on it > when the time comes. > > Thanks, Bruce > |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
That sounds scary! Well, I must get to work so check your responses tomorrow. Thanks again, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
That sounds scary! Well, I must get to work so check your responses tomorrow. Thanks again, Bruce |
Re: CJ Seat Mounting Recomendations?
That sounds scary! Well, I must get to work so check your responses tomorrow. Thanks again, Bruce |
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