Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
#71
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
And on average S-Class Mercs put in very high annual mileages because senior
execs use them.
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
execs use them.
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
#72
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
And on average S-Class Mercs put in very high annual mileages because senior
execs use them.
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
execs use them.
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
#73
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
And on average S-Class Mercs put in very high annual mileages because senior
execs use them.
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
execs use them.
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> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
>
#74
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Now that IS poppycock.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
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> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
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> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
#75
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
Now that IS poppycock.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
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"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
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> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
DAS
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"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
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> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
#76
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
Now that IS poppycock.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
DAS
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"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
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> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
DAS
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"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
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[...]
> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
#77
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
Now that IS poppycock.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
DAS
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"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
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[...]
> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
1. Germany does not NEED to put in general speed limits. The environmental
impact is not as great as some people like to think. Anyway, huge chunks of
the German motorway network are already limited (to 130 km/h or less) and
much of the time in certain sections traffic is too heavy to go much above
the speed limit.
Furthermore, stretches of motorway have a guide max of 130 km/h. Whilst
that is not a legal limit, it could have insurance payout implications when
having an accident above that.
2. Mercedes is not only for the rich. It is for everyone. Even omitting
the A and B Classes, in Germany the C is a top-selling car and has been for
years, as is the BMW 3. (around number 5 or better).
DAS
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"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
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[...]
> Not de-tuned here, but hopefully tuned for our driving speeds else the
> mileage at our much lower speeds is poor.
> Germany needs to put some limits on the Autobahn speeds. which are very
> bad for the environment and unfortunately sometimes bad for those in
> the very fast moving cars.
>
> I shake my head and chuckle when I see someone here driving a car
> designed for twice our speeds, just tooling along here.
> What a waste of money and a misapplication of technology.
>
> It's not how to drive a Mercedes, it's just that the rich who buy them
> here are gentle mature drivers who seldom even go on the highway and
> never in snow; thankfully.
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> However most Mercedes buyers don't buy for performance, just image.
>> We have many Mercedes vehicles around here and they just put along in
>> the city and seldom are seen on the highway.
>
> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
100+ mph is still the norm on rural autobahn for the larger cars, the
ubiquitous econoboxes kept around 120kph, and speed limits in the cities. I
was there last month, rented a BMW 3-series *diesel,* what a great car that
was. Had it up to 228KPH (about 140mph) at one time but usually I kept it
around 160-170KPH (100mph) and still returned about 26mpg. The only cars
passing me were the big Audis and Mercedes.
No diesel smell, no clattering, very smooth. When will these diesels be
available in the US?
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> However most Mercedes buyers don't buy for performance, just image.
>> We have many Mercedes vehicles around here and they just put along in
>> the city and seldom are seen on the highway.
>
> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
100+ mph is still the norm on rural autobahn for the larger cars, the
ubiquitous econoboxes kept around 120kph, and speed limits in the cities. I
was there last month, rented a BMW 3-series *diesel,* what a great car that
was. Had it up to 228KPH (about 140mph) at one time but usually I kept it
around 160-170KPH (100mph) and still returned about 26mpg. The only cars
passing me were the big Audis and Mercedes.
No diesel smell, no clattering, very smooth. When will these diesels be
available in the US?
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> However most Mercedes buyers don't buy for performance, just image.
>> We have many Mercedes vehicles around here and they just put along in
>> the city and seldom are seen on the highway.
>
> Well, we lived in Germany for five years and Mercedes, in Germany, are not
> de-tuned as they are for America. Over 100mph is not unusual on the
> Autobahn, although it may be slower today. I am sure that there are many
> Mercedes owners, in America, who do not know how to drive a Mercedes.
> But I never drove a Mercedes in Germany, I drove an E-Type Jaguar, so what
> do I know.
100+ mph is still the norm on rural autobahn for the larger cars, the
ubiquitous econoboxes kept around 120kph, and speed limits in the cities. I
was there last month, rented a BMW 3-series *diesel,* what a great car that
was. Had it up to 228KPH (about 140mph) at one time but usually I kept it
around 160-170KPH (100mph) and still returned about 26mpg. The only cars
passing me were the big Audis and Mercedes.
No diesel smell, no clattering, very smooth. When will these diesels be
available in the US?