Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
05-16-2004, 05:57 PM
#61
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
Going out to continuity test what I can now.
If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
computer pick it up?
Thanks,
Bill
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:X5Npc.52267$Z%5.51913@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > Well, I took the dist off and lifted up the plate and looked at the
sensor
> > and it was caked with black crap so I cleaned it all off and put it all
back
> > together again. Also, don't know how it got there but I stuck a straw
into
> > the wiring harness connector (3 pin) and found what looked to be oil.
So I
> > cleaned that up too.
>
> The bushing in your distributor shaft is wearing and allowing oil to get
up
> into the distributor, that's not good, eventually the distributor will
start
> making a ticking noise and need to be replaced before it up and eats
itself.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
> A quick and relatively painless job. Also a good opportunity to replace
the
> cap, rotor, wires and plugs.
>
> > Now it still won't start and there's no fault code indicating a problem.
>
> Check to make sure all connectors are back and no pins got bent.
> Let the vehicle rest for a while, you may also be flooded.
>
> To tell the car it's flooded, start with the pedal all the way down
> then release after cranking a few times. That tells the computer not
> to give fuel.
>
> > That is I don't have 54 anymore I just have the following returns:
> >
> > 12
>
> (battery disconnected within the last 50 starts) ..ignore it unless
> it occurs with lots of other codes in which case look for a loose
> battery connection. It can't be reset unless you have the DRB Scantool
> or do fifty starts. I'm not up to wearing out the starter just to clear
> one code. :)
>
> > 55
>
> (end of codes)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
Going out to continuity test what I can now.
If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
computer pick it up?
Thanks,
Bill
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:X5Npc.52267$Z%5.51913@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > Well, I took the dist off and lifted up the plate and looked at the
sensor
> > and it was caked with black crap so I cleaned it all off and put it all
back
> > together again. Also, don't know how it got there but I stuck a straw
into
> > the wiring harness connector (3 pin) and found what looked to be oil.
So I
> > cleaned that up too.
>
> The bushing in your distributor shaft is wearing and allowing oil to get
up
> into the distributor, that's not good, eventually the distributor will
start
> making a ticking noise and need to be replaced before it up and eats
itself.
> http://members.***.net/wilsond/distributor/
> A quick and relatively painless job. Also a good opportunity to replace
the
> cap, rotor, wires and plugs.
>
> > Now it still won't start and there's no fault code indicating a problem.
>
> Check to make sure all connectors are back and no pins got bent.
> Let the vehicle rest for a while, you may also be flooded.
>
> To tell the car it's flooded, start with the pedal all the way down
> then release after cranking a few times. That tells the computer not
> to give fuel.
>
> > That is I don't have 54 anymore I just have the following returns:
> >
> > 12
>
> (battery disconnected within the last 50 starts) ..ignore it unless
> it occurs with lots of other codes in which case look for a loose
> battery connection. It can't be reset unless you have the DRB Scantool
> or do fifty starts. I'm not up to wearing out the starter just to clear
> one code. :)
>
> > 55
>
> (end of codes)
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
05-16-2004, 06:18 PM
#62
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
In message <twOpc.52496$Z%5.24816@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
05-16-2004, 06:18 PM
#63
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
In message <twOpc.52496$Z%5.24816@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
05-16-2004, 06:18 PM
#64
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
In message <twOpc.52496$Z%5.24816@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
05-16-2004, 06:18 PM
#65
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
In message <twOpc.52496$Z%5.24816@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <swKpc.51828$Z%5.42021@okepread01>, "DougW" wrote:
>
>> The only time the computer gets confused is if it's getting false information,
>> as it would from a bad sensor. Replacing the sensor is all that is needed,
>> and the computer will automatically correct for it. The only thing you do
>> when resetting the computer is change where the computer starts to adjust
>> from, not where it will end up. It will always adjust. That's it's job.
>
>Correct, but it's easier and quicker for the computer to adjust from a fresh
>start than to un-learn/re-learn a new setup.
Not really. If the computer is adding fuel at 10% due to a bad O2 sensor, and
with the properly operating sensor only needs to add 7%, that's only a -3%
shift. From 0% (Where you start when you reset the computer) it's a +7% shift,
which will take more time.
Of course this happens very quickly, and the difference is moot. My only point
was that the computer is constantly re-learning, and the computer will
automatically do this with or without resetting, because that is what it's
designed to do. It adapts to changing conditions.
Not saying don't do it, go ahead if you wish. Just saying it doesn't really
help.
When you start talking about OBD II vehicles (which this one is not), there are
many good reasons for NOT resetting the computer, but that would be another
thread. :-)
05-16-2004, 06:41 PM
#66
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
05-16-2004, 06:41 PM
#67
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
05-16-2004, 06:41 PM
#68
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
05-16-2004, 06:41 PM
#69
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
>
> Going out to continuity test what I can now.
>
> If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> computer pick it up?
Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
spark?
A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the distribution
center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown Relay)
in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark Green
wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
Grey wire with White Stripe.
..longshot.
It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or o-scope.
Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results. Sometimes
it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This is for
the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary within
the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
05-16-2004, 06:52 PM
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Re: Changing the name of my jeep from Blackie to Black Cloud (or error 54 diagnostic code)
Ok, I figured it out. I didn't set the distributor on the COMPRESSION
stroke. Duhhh!!!.
Back in business.
Now, on this week to check the injectors.
Thanks all,
Bill
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:r6Spc.52645$Z%5.44897@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> > won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
> >
> > Going out to continuity test what I can now.
> >
> > If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> > computer pick it up?
>
> Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
>
> Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
> spark?
>
> A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the
distribution
> center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown
Relay)
> in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark
Green
> wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
> Grey wire with White Stripe.
>
> .longshot.
> It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or
o-scope.
> Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results.
Sometimes
> it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This
is for
> the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary
within
> the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>
stroke. Duhhh!!!.
Back in business.
Now, on this week to check the injectors.
Thanks all,
Bill
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:r6Spc.52645$Z%5.44897@okepread01...
> William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > I replaced the distributor today to remove any issues with that. Still
> > won't start and still no codes other that 12 and 55
> >
> > Going out to continuity test what I can now.
> >
> > If there is a problem with the coil or other electrical parts would the
> > computer pick it up?
>
> Nope, the computer can't see into the ignition circuit.
>
> Have you gone through and checked all the fuses and checked for
> spark?
>
> A quick rundown from the 93ZJ. Power comes in from Fuse2 in the
distribution
> center (behind the battery) and runs through the ASD (Automatic Shutdown
Relay)
> in the same location. That feeds 12V to the coil over a 18 gauge Dark
Green
> wire with a Black stripe. Ground is provided by the ECU over a 18 gauge
> Grey wire with White Stripe.
>
> .longshot.
> It could be the CPS sensor, but that's hard to test without a scantool or
o-scope.
> Several folks have gone through the same issue with mixed results.
Sometimes
> it helps, sometimes it doesn't. And the part isn't terribly cheap. This
is for
> the 42RE transmission. Know your tranny before getting one, they vary
within
> the same year. http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
> Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
>
>