CB Radio or PRS
#281
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
Bob wrote:
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
>
>>Thanks for the advice. I had been away for a couple of days, but it seems
>>like I have a lot of responses to read now. Great stuff. I have steering
>>on the right side (I am in New Zealand).
>>
>>How would mounting it on the spare tyre carrier work? That would give a
>>good height and keep it away from almost all electronics (the nearest being
>>the fuel pump in the gas tank).
>>
>>TW
a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
Bob wrote:
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
>
>>Thanks for the advice. I had been away for a couple of days, but it seems
>>like I have a lot of responses to read now. Great stuff. I have steering
>>on the right side (I am in New Zealand).
>>
>>How would mounting it on the spare tyre carrier work? That would give a
>>good height and keep it away from almost all electronics (the nearest being
>>the fuel pump in the gas tank).
>>
>>TW
#282
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
#283
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
#284
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
#285
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
news:47b769ae.0404150833.2436b450@posting.google.c om...
> TW,
>
> First, let me say that is exactly what I've done. My SWR isn't ideal,
> but it's "good enough", and not so high that I'm worried I'll damage
> my CB transmitter.
>
> However, according to most sources I researched when getting my CB,
> the bumper is among the worst places to mount an antenna for optimal
> performance. The only reason so many mount theirs there is that it is
> an easy place to mount it, and looks aesthetically pleasing.
>
> The reason it is said to be a bad place is that bumper does not
> provide a proper "Ground Plane". I don't know much about how such
> things work, but apparently mounting the antenna to the body (such as
> on the rear corner panel), or in the front where you were initially
> thinking of mounting it, will provide a much better, larger ground
> plane for the antenna, and supposedly greatly increase its effective
> power and range, and reduce its SWR.
>
> That's about the extent of what I know, based on the various
> information I read about. So, my advice:
>
> Mount it in the front if you like it there. That works great for my
> friend's rubicon. Mount it on the spare tire carrier if you want.
> Works great for me so far. But if you want the supposed "ideal" mount,
> mount it to the body in the rear corner panel area, for optimal ground
> plane. The biggest thing (IMO) is to get an antenna that IS easily
> adjustable, so you can fix the SWR regardless of where you mount it.
>
> Good luck,
> Bob
>
>
I am off to install it now, its a sunny autumn day with no rain clouds in
sight. I'll update later, but I am now inclined towards putting it on the
spare tyre carrier.
Thanks guys for all your input.
TW
#286
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
#287
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
#288
Guest
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
#289
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
news:Jc6dnVGkVYgtIePd4p2dnA@magma.ca...
> I have an Argo 6X6 ATV and it's body is made of
> a poly... type of plastic. Obviously not much of a ground plane
> I did find a "no gnd plane" antenna for it. Not a antenna for a
> boat (Boat types are designed with the water in mind)
> And it's worked really well, swr was really low. Unfortuneatly I can't
> recall who made it. Maybe it'll perform as good, on the rear of a Jeep.
>
I have just now opened the box and am going to install it now. Lets see
how it goes. The antenna is tuneable, so if there are any problems I can
try to tune it or have it tuned professionally. I don't think just tuning
will cost that much (paying for installation would be expensive and I would
not learn anything!).
Thanks guys.
TW
#290
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Re: CB Radio or PRS
"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:PK0ec.6230$Pw1.1167@fed1read05...
> > Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the
> > trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs
> Thanks Jerry. Our club does not list CBs as mandatory equipment, but as
> "good to have". I rarely go alone out that far simply because I don't
have
> a winch to get myself out of trouble. Till that time I will mostly go for
> club runs or with buddies. I am leaning towards a CB, but the FRS/PRS are
> so small in size comparatively that it would be easy to fit just about
> anywhere. Locally, both CBs and PRS are a max 5W power units and can be
> had with external antenna.
Wow... here in the US, the FRS radio service is limited to 1/2 watt output.
If you have 5 watt units in the same range, I'd bet they get some very good
range, with excellent clarity.
--
David Mize dmize@wowway.com
Pickerington, Ohio
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> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:PK0ec.6230$Pw1.1167@fed1read05...
> > Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the
> > trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs
> Thanks Jerry. Our club does not list CBs as mandatory equipment, but as
> "good to have". I rarely go alone out that far simply because I don't
have
> a winch to get myself out of trouble. Till that time I will mostly go for
> club runs or with buddies. I am leaning towards a CB, but the FRS/PRS are
> so small in size comparatively that it would be easy to fit just about
> anywhere. Locally, both CBs and PRS are a max 5W power units and can be
> had with external antenna.
Wow... here in the US, the FRS radio service is limited to 1/2 watt output.
If you have 5 watt units in the same range, I'd bet they get some very good
range, with excellent clarity.
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David Mize dmize@wowway.com
Pickerington, Ohio