CB Radio or PRS
04-12-2004, 08:57 PM
#181
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>
>>The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
>>your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
>>make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
>>
>>TW wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>>>will be spent installing it.
>>>
>>>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>>>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>>>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>>>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>>>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>>>install?
>>>
>>>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
>
>
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tw
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01 XJ Sport
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Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>
> Howard.
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>
>>The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
>>your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
>>make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
>>
>>TW wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>>>will be spent installing it.
>>>
>>>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>>>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>>>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>>>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>>>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>>>install?
>>>
>>>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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04-12-2004, 09:00 PM
#182
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
I think Mike was just alluding the Poster's ability to solder in a
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
04-12-2004, 09:00 PM
#183
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
I think Mike was just alluding the Poster's ability to solder in a
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
04-12-2004, 09:00 PM
#184
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
I think Mike was just alluding the Poster's ability to solder in a
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
04-12-2004, 09:00 PM
#185
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
I think Mike was just alluding the Poster's ability to solder in a
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
PL-238, rather the fraction of a wave length.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> Mike, I don't mean to be an *** but I've gotta disagree with you on
> the coax length thing :) That's a very common misconception but it
> just ain't so, unless you're running a really non-standard antenna
> the coax length doesn't make any major difference.
>
> In theory, shorter is better but for the difference in length thats
> possible in a vehicle I don't think the ol' mk.1 "ear" test will
> notice any difference.
>
> The only concern I'd have with shortening the coax run would be
> getting the connector properly installed, may take a try or two for a
> first timer but not out of the question.
>
> -Howard.
04-12-2004, 09:15 PM
#186
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Strange things happen when we coil wire, like magnetizing a
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
04-12-2004, 09:15 PM
#187
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Strange things happen when we coil wire, like magnetizing a
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
04-12-2004, 09:15 PM
#188
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Strange things happen when we coil wire, like magnetizing a
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
04-12-2004, 09:15 PM
#189
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
Strange things happen when we coil wire, like magnetizing a
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
screwdriver for one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
> vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
04-12-2004, 09:17 PM
#190
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Re: CB Radio or PRS - Update
I guess it depends on the individual situation, in some cases coiling
it up may make sense, in some cases it may be easier to leave it
uncoiled. Personally I usually cut it to length. On my last install
(magnatopper) I had about 1' extra so I just rotated the antenna
around to coil the extra length around the base.
Makes no difference one way or the other.
Howard.
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:57:54 GMT, twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
>vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
>> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
>> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
>> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
>> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
>> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
>> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
>> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
>> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>>
>> Howard.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
>> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
>>>your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
>>>make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
>>>
>>>TW wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>>>>will be spent installing it.
>>>>
>>>>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>>>>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>>>>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>>>>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>>>>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>>>>install?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
>>
>>
it up may make sense, in some cases it may be easier to leave it
uncoiled. Personally I usually cut it to length. On my last install
(magnatopper) I had about 1' extra so I just rotated the antenna
around to coil the extra length around the base.
Makes no difference one way or the other.
Howard.
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 00:57:54 GMT, twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>Probably not, but how many antenna coax coils do you have in your
>vehicles? It certainly doesn't take much effort to leave it uncoiled.
>
>Howard Eisenhauer wrote:
>
>> TW, another old wive's tale about the coiled coax thing. If
>> everything is working the way it should all the signal travels through
>> the coax between the center conductor & the inside of the braid, not
>> along the outside where coiling it would have any effect. Coiling it,
>> tying it up or crocheting it for that matter will not make any
>> differencet :). There are actually some situations where coiling it
>> up would make a system work better, but you won't run into them in a
>> jeep using a commercially available antenna.
>>
>> Howard.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:40:20 GMT, twaldron
>> <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The rule of thumb is to be 3 ft. from any other antennas. Shortening
>>>your coax run in your TJ is not going to help your transmit range. Just
>>>make sure you don't leave a coil of coax somewhere.
>>>
>>>TW wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
>>>>will be spent installing it.
>>>>
>>>>I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
>>>>on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
>>>>radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
>>>>would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
>>>>middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
>>>>install?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.
>>
>>